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Shouldn't opposition to Civil Rights be added under criticisms? It would be if it was a page on any other group in opposition to Civil Rights of a group of people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.235.27.119 (talk) 02:38, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Gonna do some clean-up on this thing

Gonna do some clean-up on this article... since it's been tagged for clean-up for nearly six years now (since October 2008). Lightbreather (talk) 22:03, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the clean-up tag because I think I've cleaned it up pretty darn well. I updated a lot of citations to WP:CS1 standards; updated some of the URLs; and added archive URLs and dates where needed. The article could still use some development and updating, which I'll probably continue to do, but I thought I'd stop for a minute to follow-up on the clean-up notice. Lightbreather (talk) 21:13, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Criticisms section looks a bit thin.

Considering the sheer number of Americans that dislike these people, the criticisms section looks rather thin.

When someone has the time, they should make it a little more thorough. Sparse information isn't supposed to be one of Wikipedia's hallmarks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.0.107.211 (talk) 21:25, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

These groups have paid shills who operate on wiki spreading their lies, hate and racism. They will just revert you and move to have you blocked, comrade.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 22:47, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Misquote of Shields

I subscribed to The New Yorker just so I could check out the Shields quote that was in the article. It was wrong.

This is the quote from the section in question:

... Our ultimate goal - total control of handguns in the United States - is going to take time. My estimate is from seven to ten years. The first problem is to slow down the increasing number of handguns being produced and sold in this country. The second is to get handguns registered. And the final problem is to make the possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition - except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed sporing clubs, and licensed gun collectors - totally illegal.

--Lightbreather (talk) 02:00, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of POV material

I took out two chunks of text which don't belong in this article.

In July 1976, Shields estimated that it would take seven to ten years for NCCH to reach the goal of "total control of handguns in the United States." He said:
"The first problem is to slow down the increasing number of handguns being produced and sold in this country. The second is to get handguns registered. And the final problem is to make the possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition - except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors - totally illegal."^[1]

A spokesman for the California State Rifle and Pistol Association called the law's details "arbitrary,"^[2] and gun rights author Dave Kopel called the law "symbolic."^[3] The ban expired in September 2004.^[4]

Both of these violate NPOV. 162.119.231.132 (talk) 16:41, 20 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

^ Harris, Richard (July 26, 1976). "A Reporter at Large: Handguns". The New Yorker: 53–58. Retrieved January 19, 2014.
^ Wilkie, Dana (March 20, 2004). "Effectiveness of assault-weapon bans still unclear". San Diego Union-Tribune. Retrieved November 14, 2008.
^ Kopel, Dave (September 13, 2004). "Bait-'n'-Switch: Gun-prohibition lobbyists are after much more than AK-47s". National Review. Archived from the original on September 13, 2004. Retrieved November 14, 2008.
^ Siebel, Brian (September 14, 2004). "The Assault Weapons Ban: Brady Campaign". Washington Post. Retrieved November 14, 2008.

[Harris760726-1] Harris, Richard (July 26, 1976). "A Reporter at Large: Handguns". The New Yorker: 53–58. Retrieved January 19, 2014.

[Wilkie040320-2] Wilkie, Dana (March 20, 2004). "Effectiveness of assault-weapon bans still unclear". San Diego Union-Tribune. Retrieved November 14, 2008.

[KopelNRO040914-3] Kopel, Dave (September 13, 2004). "Bait-'n'-Switch: Gun-prohibition lobbyists are after much more than AK-47s". National Review. Archived from the original on September 13, 2004. Retrieved November 14, 2008.

[Siebel040914-4] Siebel, Brian (September 14, 2004). "The Assault Weapons Ban: Brady Campaign". Washington Post. Retrieved November 14, 2008.

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 :... Our ultimate goal - total control of handguns in the United States - is going to take time. My estimate is from seven to ten years. The first problem is to slow down the increasing number of handguns being produced and sold in this country. The second is to get handguns registered. And the final problem is to make the possession of ''all'' handguns and ''all'' handgun ammunition - except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed sporing clubs, and licensed gun collectors - totally illegal.
 --[[User:Lightbreather|Lightbreather]] ([[User talk:Lightbreather|talk]]) 02:00, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
+== Deletion of POV material ==
+I took out two chunks of text which don't belong in this article.
+{{quote|In July 1976, Shields estimated that it would take seven to ten years for NCCH to reach the goal of "total control of handguns in the United States." He said:
+:"The first problem is to slow down the increasing number of handguns being produced and sold in this country. The second is to get handguns registered. And the final problem is to make the possession of ''all'' handguns and ''all'' handgun ammunition - except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors - totally illegal."<ref name=Harris760726>{{cite journal |last=Harris |first=Richard |date=July 26, 1976 |title=A Reporter at Large: Handguns |url=http://www.newyorker.com/archive/1976/07/26/1976_07_26_053_TNY_CARDS_000319312 |journal=[[The New Yorker]] |pages=53–58 |accessdate=January 19, 2014}}</ref>
+}}
+{{quote|A spokesman for the California State Rifle and Pistol Association called the law's details "arbitrary,"<ref name=Wilkie040320>{{cite news |last=Wilkie |first=Dana |date=March 20, 2004 |title=Effectiveness of assault-weapon bans still unclear |url=http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20040320/news_1n20guns.html |newspaper=San Diego Union-Tribune |location= |publisher= |accessdate=November 14, 2008 }}</ref> and gun rights author [[Dave Kopel]] called the law "symbolic."<ref name=KopelNRO040914>{{cite journal |last=Kopel |first=Dave |date=September 13, 2004 |title=Bait-’n’-Switch: Gun-prohibition lobbyists are after much more than AK-47s |url=http://www.nationalreview.com/kopel/kopel200409130630.asp |journal=National Review |publisher= |archiveurl=http://web.archive.org/web/20040913210747/http://www.nationalreview.com/kopel/kopel200409130630.asp |archivedate=September 13, 2004 |accessdate=November 14, 2008 }}</ref> The ban expired in September 2004.<ref name=Siebel040914>{{cite news |last=Siebel |first=Brian |date=September 14, 2004 |title=The Assault Weapons Ban: Brady Campaign |url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2004/09/16/DI2005040209200.html |newspaper=Washington Post |accessdate=November 14, 2008 }}</ref>
+  }}
+Both of these violate NPOV. [[Special:Contributions/162.119.231.132|162.119.231.132]] ([[User talk:162.119.231.132|talk]]) 16:41, 20 January 2015 (UTC)