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Separation of Church and State in "Max Weber - Economy and Society Volume 2" talking about Calvinism.

The Translated English version by Guenther Roth and Claus Wittich of Max Weber's Economy and Society Volume 2, states "the separation of church and state". http://books.google.com/books?isbn=0804747172 http://www.answers.com/topic/economy-and-society-bureaucracy

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Charles II

The article contains this sentence. Through his work Rhode Island’s charter was confirmed by King Charles II of England, which explicitly stated that no one was to be “molested, punished, disquieted, or called in question, for any differences in opinion, in matters of religion.” Given that Parliament and Cromwell drove Charles II to France after less than three years on the throne largely (entirely?) on account of his tolerance of non-Protestant denominations (indeed the whole House of Stewart/Stuart on that throne was similarly given short shrift for just this reason), this sentence's implication that Rhode Island's charter had England's blessing seems disingenuous and should be set straight somehow. Vaughan Pratt (talk) 14:38, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Japan

The statement about Japan and the American occupation is easily one of the most asinine misrepresentations I have ever read regarding the relationship of church and state in Japan.74.134.145.218 (talk) 03:56, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Use term Separation of religion and state

The term Separation of religion and state links to this article, but isn't used once. The phrase is used in academic publishing and journalism when referring to religious freedom in countries that don't have a history of Christian majorities.

The page includes discussion of political secularism of India, Japan and Turkey, which do not have majority Christian populations. Terms like "separation of mosque and state" are clunky for each religion in multicultural societies.

I've put some figures for web searches as of this writing:

Search	Separation of Church and state	Separation of Religion and state
Google Scholar	50,300	3,090
Microsoft Academic	134	8
Google Web	8,740,000	3,340,000
Bing	3,900,000	633,000

I propose that the term "separation of religion and state" be used throughout the article, not in the lede, for all sections unrelated to Christianity, eg pre-axial age religions should not be referred to as "Church" -- Aronzak (talk) 03:52, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think this is a good idea. "separation of church and state" is widely used English idiom. It's clearly a meytonomy in which Church is intended to stand in for any kind of organized religion (not just Christianity) and State is intended to represent any kind of government (not just an American style state). The alternative phrase you are proposing is not so widely used and unlikely to be something that people search for. Also your proposal goes against our article title policy - I'd suggest you have a read at that. --Salimfadhley (talk) 13:35, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Shariah Law

Should this not be discussed where the Church has absolute dominion over the State? 2.31.0.60 (talk) 11:26, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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 I propose that the term "separation of religion and state" be used throughout the article, not in the lede, for all sections unrelated to Christianity, eg pre-axial age religions should not be referred to as "Church" [[User:Aronzak|-- Aronzak]] ([[User talk:Aronzak|talk]]) 03:52, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
 :I don't think this is a good idea. "separation of church and state" is widely used English idiom. It's clearly a [[meytonomy]] in which Church is intended to stand in for any kind of organized religion (not just Christianity) and State is intended to represent any kind of government (not just an American style state). The alternative phrase you are proposing is not so widely used and unlikely to be something that people search for. Also your proposal goes against our [[WP:COMMONNAME|article title]] policy - I'd suggest you have a read at that. --[[User:Salimfadhley|Salimfadhley]] ([[User talk:Salimfadhley|talk]]) 13:35, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
+==Shariah Law==
+Should this not be discussed where the Church has absolute dominion over the State? [[Special:Contributions/2.31.0.60|2.31.0.60]] ([[User talk:2.31.0.60|talk]]) 11:26, 26 January 2015 (UTC)