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==From ''Socratic Irony and Aristotle's "Eiron": Some Puzzles''== |
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::By: P. W. Gooch, Scarborough College (University of Toronto) |
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::Published: Phoenix, Vol. 41, No. 2. (Summer, 1987), pp. 95-104. |
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::''Obtained from JSTOR Sunday March 2nd, 2008'' |
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This Article adresses my some of my comments. (See blockquote below. The text is from a footnote.) |
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At the end of the last century J. A. Stewart wrote, "Aristotle is the first to make Socrates the type of refined Irony" (Notes on the Nicomachean Ethics of Aristotle [Oxford 18921 1.359). Next Burnet: "This passage seems to be the origin of the current phrase 'Socratic irony,' a thing which is almost as mythical as 'tragic irony'" (The Ethics ofAristotle [London 19001 196). Then T. Marshall: '''"Irony, in the sense in which it is now commonly taken, as meaning an affectation of ignorance, is here attributed to Sokrates . . . . The authority of Aristotle has had a good deal to do with fixing the present meaning of the word"''' (Aristotle's Theory of Conduct [London 19091 264). And G. G. Sedgewick: "our ideas of Socratic irony spring ultimately from Aristotle's |
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definition of eironeia as a pretence which takes the form of self-depression . . . .[Aristotle] fixed the general sense of Socratic irony for all time" (OfIrony, Especzally in Drama2 [Toronto 19481 11-12). (Works mentioned in this note will be cited by author's name, as will R. A. Gauthier and J. Y. Jolif, ~ ' f ' t h i ~2u eNicomaque [Louvain 19591 and T. Irwin, tr., |
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Nicomachean Ethlcs [Indianapolis 19851). |
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== Edit Request April 18 2013: Third Death Hypothesis == |
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According to [[Larry Gonick]]'s [[The Cartoon History of the Universe]], Volume I, there is a third hypothesis |
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the article fails to mention regarding the meaning of Socrates' last words: As it says, Asclepius is the |
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Greek god of healing. Socrates' owing a sacrifice to the god implies he could have been sick - he may have |
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already been dying and known it, which would provide another explanation for his not |
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bothering to try to flee, accepting his execution as he did instead. |
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== minor edit : drop the "later" in "known chiefly through the accounts of later classical writers" == |
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Socrates is characterized as "an enigmatic figure known chiefly through the accounts of later classical writers" -- "especially," the lede says, Plato, Xenophon, and Aristophanes. But all three were contemporaries of Socrates, and the same sentence (the article's 2nd) confusingly _cites_ Aristophanes as a contemporary. _Clouds_ was written decades before Socrates' death. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Matthew Freytag|Matthew Freytag]] ([[User talk:Matthew Freytag|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Matthew Freytag|contribs]]) 18:17, 1 August 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Done. [[User:Myrvin|Myrvin]] ([[User talk:Myrvin|talk]]) 20:21, 1 August 2014 (UTC) |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phaedrus_%28dialogue%29 is not linked in the text cabn it be? <small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/178.191.189.179|178.191.189.179]] ([[User talk:178.191.189.179|talk]]) 15:51, 24 January 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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