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:That's because it is a u on the Web site. Only the logo uses a mu. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] ([[User talk:Evice|talk]]) 03:31, 6 April 2014 (UTC) |
:That's because it is a u on the Web site. Only the logo uses a mu. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] ([[User talk:Evice|talk]]) 03:31, 6 April 2014 (UTC) |
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::The Greek letter 'μ' looks most similar to the Latin letter 'u'. I remember seeing and using this substitution in my college engineering classes in the late 80's, when Greek alphabets were not commonly used in word processors. We tended to pronounce it 'micro', not 'mu', as it stands for 10<sup>-6</sup> (or something very small, in more general terms). In engineering, math and physics, Greek letters are used as symbols with specific meanings, not for words or text that can be translated, so the original sound of mu is irrelevant in this context. [[User:Nerfer|Nerfer]] ([[User talk:Nerfer|talk]]) 21:19, 28 January 2015 (UTC) |
::The Greek letter 'μ' looks most similar to the Latin letter 'u'. I remember seeing and using this substitution in my college engineering classes in the late 80's, when Greek alphabets were not commonly used in word processors. We tended to pronounce it 'micro', not 'mu', as it stands for 10<sup>-6</sup> (or something very small, in more general terms). In engineering, math and physics, Greek letters are used as symbols with specific meanings, not for words or text that can be translated, so the original sound of mu is irrelevant in this context. [[User:Nerfer|Nerfer]] ([[User talk:Nerfer|talk]]) 21:19, 28 January 2015 (UTC) |
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== Update context for MClinux page == |
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Apparently the MClinux page is so outdated that it is mainly useful for historical information. Bad links and outdated information on pages that are referenced seem to indicate that the project is dead. It would be interesting to know how MCLinux fits into the world of other Linux implementations (eg OpenWRT). I would like to know which projects/distributions have replaced it and where can they be found. Thanks! |
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[[User:LloydEwing|Lloyd Ewing]] ([[User talk:LloydEwing|talk]]) 01:49, 15 March 2015 (UTC) |
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Why is this at µCLinux? The site for it calls it uClinux (with a lowercase l) and states that it is pronounced as you-see-Linux. --/ɛvɪs/ /tɑːk/ /kɑntɹɪbjuʃənz/ 20:19, May 18, 2005 (UTC)
- It is because they use the greek letter mu, which is pronounced 'you'.--YGagarin 21:10, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
- The site uses a lowercase Latin u, not a lowercase Greek mu or a micro symbol. --Evice 18:16, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
- While the official homepage for the project ( http://uclinux.org/ ) has a big headline graphic that looks like "µClinux", the actual text of the site always uses "uClinux" -- which it uses about a dozen times just on the main page.
- (Except for the trademarks footnote at the bottom of the main page and some other pages, which mentions both the "µClinux" and "uClinux").
- So I agree with Evice -- the people in the project call it "uClinux", and that is the most common name, so that is the name Wikipedia should use, according to Wikipedia:Naming conflict. (I'm going to explain away the "µClinux" big headline graphic as "artistic license".) --68.0.124.33 (talk) 03:40, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
- That pretty much sums this up. Nowhere on the official site (aside from the logo) is uClinux spelled with a mu/micro symbol. The logo just seems to be stylized like a lot of logos. And why is the actual title of the article MClinux with a template to make the M a micro symbol? Even if the actual name did have a mu/micro symbol, it's still spelled with a lowercase u (not an M) when it isn't available. --Evice (talk) 00:00, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
- It is not spelt with an M. It is spelt with a the Greek Μ, the capital version of μ, which just looks like the Latin M. Why capital? Because Wikipedia articles have to start with capital letters. If you go to eBay or iPhone, you will see that the URL says EBay and IPhone, respectively. --Joshua Issac (talk) 21:18, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
- You're missing the point. The entire official site does not once spell it any way other than uCLinux, with a Latin lowercase U, other than in the logo. --Evice (talk) 03:26, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
- It is not spelt with an M. It is spelt with a the Greek Μ, the capital version of μ, which just looks like the Latin M. Why capital? Because Wikipedia articles have to start with capital letters. If you go to eBay or iPhone, you will see that the URL says EBay and IPhone, respectively. --Joshua Issac (talk) 21:18, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
- That pretty much sums this up. Nowhere on the official site (aside from the logo) is uClinux spelled with a mu/micro symbol. The logo just seems to be stylized like a lot of logos. And why is the actual title of the article MClinux with a template to make the M a micro symbol? Even if the actual name did have a mu/micro symbol, it's still spelled with a lowercase u (not an M) when it isn't available. --Evice (talk) 00:00, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
U vs Μ
U derives from the Greek Υυ (upsilon);
Μμ is the ancestor of the Latin M.
Their glyphs may appear similar but the letters themselves are not at all related—they were borrowed before miniscules existed.—Kbolino 07:38, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- Did you not read my talk page entry? The official site calls it uClinux. --Evice 20:30, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
uClibc
"...the μClinux project also produced a C library called μClinux..."
Isn't the library called uClibc?
87.174.73.23 07:39, 3 July 2007 (UTC)Gerhard
Last change an explaination 07.01.2008
Sorry for not logging in but i am in a hurry. I though the explaination needed to be added since it the pronunciation can be taken as an error, whereas the creators of the program seem (from the website) to have chosen to pronounce u -a common replacement for the Greek mu in ascii- in English which is odd. Kosta Servis 119.11.96.130 (talk) 21:09, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- That's because it is a u on the Web site. Only the logo uses a mu. --Evice (talk) 03:31, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
- The Greek letter 'μ' looks most similar to the Latin letter 'u'. I remember seeing and using this substitution in my college engineering classes in the late 80's, when Greek alphabets were not commonly used in word processors. We tended to pronounce it 'micro', not 'mu', as it stands for 10-6 (or something very small, in more general terms). In engineering, math and physics, Greek letters are used as symbols with specific meanings, not for words or text that can be translated, so the original sound of mu is irrelevant in this context. Nerfer (talk) 21:19, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Update context for MClinux page
Apparently the MClinux page is so outdated that it is mainly useful for historical information. Bad links and outdated information on pages that are referenced seem to indicate that the project is dead. It would be interesting to know how MCLinux fits into the world of other Linux implementations (eg OpenWRT). I would like to know which projects/distributions have replaced it and where can they be found. Thanks! Lloyd Ewing (talk) 01:49, 15 March 2015 (UTC)