Talk:Istrian–Dalmatian exodus

Sentence removed in the lead

It cannot be stated that the exodus had place from territories belonging to Yugoslavia. Large movements of population (accounting to more than a third of the total exiles) had place from Zara, Fiume and Pola (I am using thre Italian toponyms with reason, because those territories were still within the borders of Italy when those events had place) before 1947 so before the Treaty of Paris. This fact is clearly explained in the rest of article. The current formulation suggest a fact that is historically wrong, i.e. that the exodus was a fact involving since the beginning Yugoslav citizens from Yugoslav land. Silvio1973 (talk) 08:37, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

You're right.. even after 1947 much of the exodus took place from Zone B of the Free Territory of Trieste. For the purposes of the lead, it should rather be said that the events took place "as the area passed to Yugoslavia". -- Director (talk) 17:13, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

From my perspective, the modification you suggest can have place. --Silvio1973 (talk) 09:09, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Political factor?

The following sentence: The "political factor" also played its part, especially regarding the local intellectual elite. has been there unsourced and unexplained for almost 3 years. It has been just removed. If reinstated sourcing is necessary. And by the way it would be nice to understand what it does actually mean. In the current state it does not mean anything. Silvio1973 (talk) 09:33, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Period of the exodus - 3O requested

Expanded, as well brief reference to the foibe entered in the lead. Discussion about those modifications welcome.--Silvio1973 (talk) 16:18, 8 February 2015 (UTC) @Director, I do not understand why you consider the section describing the exodus from Zadar as POV. The insertion is very well sourced. Can you list the reasons of your disagreement about the insertion of the followig section of text?

The first city to see a massive departure of ethnic Italians was Zadar. Between November 1943 and Zadar was bombed by the Allies, with serious civilian casualties (fatalities recorded range from under 1,000 to as many ad 4,000 of over 20,000 city's inhabitants). Many died in the carpet bombings, and many landmarks and centuries old works of art were destroyed. A significant number of civilians fled the city. In late October 1944 the German army and most of the Italian civilian administration abandoned the city. On October 31, 1944, the Partisans seized the city, until then a part of Mussolini's Italian Social Republic. At the start of World War II, Zadar had a population of 24,000 and, by the end of 1944, this had decreased to 6,000. Formally, the city remained under Italian sovereignty until September 15, 1947 (Paris Peace Treaties) but by that date the exodus from the city had been already almost total. --Silvio1973 (talk) 09:07, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Slavs under Italian Fascist rule

1. This section is the verbatim copy of the article Italianisation. Indeed it's the copy of an old version of it and contains a lot of material which was challanged and removed because unsourced. Also, exactly as with the Foibe killings, the section Slavs under Italian Fascist rule should be shortened and directed to the main article, which is Italianization. I suggest to copy from the current version of Italianisation, agree on a shorter version of it and redirect to the main article. --Silvio1973 (talk) 08:47, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
2. There is no discussion around the fact that the Fascism acted an intense policy of Italianisation in Istria. On the other hand this policy did not start before 1922, opposely to what it is affirmed in the article. Director, I am fine in keeping things as they are but I need to see sources. Can you provide? --Silvio1973 (talk) 08:55, 26 March 2015 (UTC)