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: As for Holmes-Connersville... the "Connersville" bit is the Connersville Blower Company of Connersville, Indiana, who refined the original Roots design and later merged with Roots (also of Connersville) to form the Roots Connersville Blower Company. "Holmes" refers to WC Holmes of Huddersfield, Yorkshire, who manufactured some Connersville products under licence. Their main business was manufacturing equipment for the production and distribution of town gas, including other licensed Connersville designs such as exhausters and gas meters which use the same principle as the blower.
: As for Holmes-Connersville... the "Connersville" bit is the Connersville Blower Company of Connersville, Indiana, who refined the original Roots design and later merged with Roots (also of Connersville) to form the Roots Connersville Blower Company. "Holmes" refers to WC Holmes of Huddersfield, Yorkshire, who manufactured some Connersville products under licence. Their main business was manufacturing equipment for the production and distribution of town gas, including other licensed Connersville designs such as exhausters and gas meters which use the same principle as the blower.
: I'm afraid my best source on the Fell is Google... before the coming of the internet I vaguely knew of its existence but that was all; what I know about it now is all stuff I've found by googling. The ILocoE and the SAE both have papers on it by Lt-Col. Fell himself but since they cost as much as a whole book I do not have copies. It seems to have largely escaped the attention of writers documenting the experimental locomotives of the period - shame that JK Lewis wasn't interested in it (his "The Western's Hydraulics" IMO sets the standard for such works). [[User:Bree's Block|Bree's Block]] ([[User talk:Bree's Block#top|talk]]) 04:24, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
: I'm afraid my best source on the Fell is Google... before the coming of the internet I vaguely knew of its existence but that was all; what I know about it now is all stuff I've found by googling. The ILocoE and the SAE both have papers on it by Lt-Col. Fell himself but since they cost as much as a whole book I do not have copies. It seems to have largely escaped the attention of writers documenting the experimental locomotives of the period - shame that JK Lewis wasn't interested in it (his "The Western's Hydraulics" IMO sets the standard for such works). [[User:Bree's Block|Bree's Block]] ([[User talk:Bree's Block#top|talk]]) 04:24, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
:: Thanks for the Connersville information and especially for the Lewis book recommendation. I've been working on articles on the Mekydro and Voith transmissions, mostly based on the Clough book I'd always wondered why the WR couldn't make diesel-hydraulics work when Germany managed to. I'm sure this book would be a good source too. [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|talk]]) 10:32, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
:: Thanks for the Connersville information and especially for the Lewis book recommendation. I've been working on articles on the Mekydro and Voith transmissions, mostly based on the Clough book - I'd always wondered why the WR couldn't make diesel-hydraulics work when Germany managed to. I'm sure this book would be a good source too. [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|talk]]) 10:32, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
::: In that case I would definitely recommend the Lewis book. Not so much for mechanical details of the transmissions - though he isn't lacking on that, giving enough to understand how they work as well as (more important in the context) plenty on the part they and the variations of them played in the story - but for the very good understanding he conveys of the complex tangle of political and engineering considerations which make up the story of the hydraulics. Unlike most of the diesel classes which died an early death there is no one overriding factor which you can point to and say "that's the reason". Certainly there was nothing fundamentally unsound about the diesel-hydraulic principle, and in my opinion we'd have been better off adopting it nationwide instead of diesel-electrics. [[User:Bree's Block|Bree's Block]] ([[User talk:Bree's Block#top|talk]]) 04:26, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
::: In that case I would definitely recommend the Lewis book. Not so much for mechanical details of the transmissions - though he isn't lacking on that, giving enough to understand how they work as well as (more important in the context) plenty on the part they and the variations of them played in the story - but for the very good understanding he conveys of the complex tangle of political and engineering considerations which make up the story of the hydraulics. Unlike most of the diesel classes which died an early death there is no one overriding factor which you can point to and say "that's the reason". Certainly there was nothing fundamentally unsound about the diesel-hydraulic principle, and in my opinion we'd have been better off adopting it nationwide instead of diesel-electrics. [[User:Bree's Block|Bree's Block]] ([[User talk:Bree's Block#top|talk]]) 04:26, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
:::: My copy of the Lewis book has arrived. Looks very good and I'm looking forward to it. Thanks for the recommendation. [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|talk]]) 02:10, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
:::: My copy of the Lewis book has arrived. Looks very good and I'm looking forward to it. Thanks for the recommendation. [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|talk]]) 02:10, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
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It broke an article here [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Sugar_glider&curid=42991&diff=653866437&oldid=647773742], maybe because of some plugin in your browser. [[User:Materialscientist|Materialscientist]] ([[User talk:Materialscientist|talk]]) 09:29, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
It broke an article here [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Sugar_glider&curid=42991&diff=653866437&oldid=647773742], maybe because of some plugin in your browser. [[User:Materialscientist|Materialscientist]] ([[User talk:Materialscientist|talk]]) 09:29, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
: Article is not broken, nor is my PC. [[User:Bree's Block|Bree's Block]] ([[User talk:Bree's Block#top|talk]]) 09:51, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

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Fell locomotive

Hi, do you have any more information on the Fell's superchargers? Clough says "turbochargers" (which I think is reasonable to infer as "mechanically-driven centrifugal"), but the small-scale GA drawing shows the sort of asymmetry that would suggest Roots (and not vane either). I have no idea who Holmes-Comerville were. Do you have any better sources on the Fell? I presume there are I. Loco E. papers on it, but I don't have anything myself. Andy Dingley (talk) 15:12, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think "turbochargers" in relation to the Fell is probably a bit of confusion arising from the original Paxman Hi-Dyne engine out of which the Fell concept was developed; this did use an exhaust-driven turbocharger, sized to give full output at low engine speeds, to avoid the complication of either an infinitely-variable supercharger drive or an auxiliary supercharger drive engine. (I guess the surplus boost at higher engine speeds was simply dumped.) paxmanhistory.org.uk is clear that the Fell used Roots-type blowers (as one would expect, see next para).
As for Holmes-Connersville... the "Connersville" bit is the Connersville Blower Company of Connersville, Indiana, who refined the original Roots design and later merged with Roots (also of Connersville) to form the Roots Connersville Blower Company. "Holmes" refers to WC Holmes of Huddersfield, Yorkshire, who manufactured some Connersville products under licence. Their main business was manufacturing equipment for the production and distribution of town gas, including other licensed Connersville designs such as exhausters and gas meters which use the same principle as the blower.
I'm afraid my best source on the Fell is Google... before the coming of the internet I vaguely knew of its existence but that was all; what I know about it now is all stuff I've found by googling. The ILocoE and the SAE both have papers on it by Lt-Col. Fell himself but since they cost as much as a whole book I do not have copies. It seems to have largely escaped the attention of writers documenting the experimental locomotives of the period - shame that JK Lewis wasn't interested in it (his "The Western's Hydraulics" IMO sets the standard for such works). Bree's Block (talk) 04:24, 5 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the Connersville information and especially for the Lewis book recommendation. I've been working on articles on the Mekydro and Voith transmissions, mostly based on the Clough book - I'd always wondered why the WR couldn't make diesel-hydraulics work when Germany managed to. I'm sure this book would be a good source too. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:32, 5 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In that case I would definitely recommend the Lewis book. Not so much for mechanical details of the transmissions - though he isn't lacking on that, giving enough to understand how they work as well as (more important in the context) plenty on the part they and the variations of them played in the story - but for the very good understanding he conveys of the complex tangle of political and engineering considerations which make up the story of the hydraulics. Unlike most of the diesel classes which died an early death there is no one overriding factor which you can point to and say "that's the reason". Certainly there was nothing fundamentally unsound about the diesel-hydraulic principle, and in my opinion we'd have been better off adopting it nationwide instead of diesel-electrics. Bree's Block (talk) 04:26, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
My copy of the Lewis book has arrived. Looks very good and I'm looking forward to it. Thanks for the recommendation. Andy Dingley (talk) 02:10, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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It broke an article here [1], maybe because of some plugin in your browser. Materialscientist (talk) 09:29, 28 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Article is not broken, nor is my PC. Bree's Block (talk) 09:51, 28 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]