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:I do hope you take stock of why you were blocked, and perhaps return one day if you feel you might be an asset to the community- and can be civil and work within the bounds of said community. I'm of the opinion that even some of the worst offenders can be redeemed, and should be given every opportunity to prove that. But they have to truly have a desire to do so, and be willing to compromise by contributing (at least initially) under whatever conditions the community might propose. You likely won't be able to respond to this, but you should be pinged when I post this reply. But so that you're aware, in the interest of civility and transparency, so will the other editors that you mentioned. I wish you well. Don't take anything I've said as condemnation or conspiracy, as I can assure you it's neither. But rather, take it with a grain of salt, and as encouragement to come back one day, when you're ready. [[User:Quinto Simmaco|Quinto Simmaco]] ([[User talk:Quinto Simmaco#top|talk]]) 15:28, 9 April 2015 (UTC) |
:I do hope you take stock of why you were blocked, and perhaps return one day if you feel you might be an asset to the community- and can be civil and work within the bounds of said community. I'm of the opinion that even some of the worst offenders can be redeemed, and should be given every opportunity to prove that. But they have to truly have a desire to do so, and be willing to compromise by contributing (at least initially) under whatever conditions the community might propose. You likely won't be able to respond to this, but you should be pinged when I post this reply. But so that you're aware, in the interest of civility and transparency, so will the other editors that you mentioned. I wish you well. Don't take anything I've said as condemnation or conspiracy, as I can assure you it's neither. But rather, take it with a grain of salt, and as encouragement to come back one day, when you're ready. [[User:Quinto Simmaco|Quinto Simmaco]] ([[User talk:Quinto Simmaco#top|talk]]) 15:28, 9 April 2015 (UTC) |
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Thanks for your reply. The banning editor is Toddst1. He makes the claim that I used block evasion--something that is conveniently impossible to disprove. But I did not. I never attempted to edite anything during my ban because I know how closely they watch me. And, unfortunately, the issue has nothing to do with civility--it has to do with --dare I say it?--a fierce hatred by the editors of David Irving, such that his bio--longer than Stalin's--had a paragraph in it insulting him, written by the same guy that was caught burgling his apartment. |
Thanks for your reply. The banning editor is Toddst1. He makes the claim that I used block evasion--something that is conveniently impossible to disprove. But I did not. I never attempted to edite anything during my ban because I know how closely they watch me. And, unfortunately, the issue has nothing to do with civility--it has to do with --dare I say it?--a fierce hatred by the editors of David Irving, such that his bio--longer than Stalin's--had a paragraph in it insulting him, written by the same guy that was caught burgling his apartment. When I pointerd the unfairness of this out, this and many similar assaults on truth were just too much for them. I fian;;lay got so sick of their desperate slant (e.g., 84% negative statments on Irving, 37% negative on Stalin) I correctly called them Jewish zealots (true and never denied) They quickly found all sorts of errors of my ways. I had authored an anti-Semitic website they claimed—which is ridiculous--and. of course, never identified. It went on and on. NEVER ONCE did they address my complaints about thier illegal behavior. Instead, they just piled on more and more false claims. And they all agreed, so no appeal was necessary. |
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Hello, this is the newbie who left you at the IRC asking for help. The article I created (Chesscademy) was deleted under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion. I understand that it wants me to indicate why the article is notable. But I don't know where I should put this, in the article or elsewhere. Help on this would be very much appreciated. Thanks! J4xh4x123 (talk) 04:02, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
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Just because a particular religion or denomination practices in a certain country, that does not necessarily make that denomination a national religion. Wouldn't some proof of it being a national denomination be necessary? A law passed in that country for example? Is there some objective criteria that can be applied? Laurel Lodged (talk) 18:12, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
Hello!
Hello, my friend. Saw your note on my Talk Page. I look forward to collaborating with you in the future. Ask for my help anytime you need it! :) Juneau Mike (talk) 21:40, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
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Che in Paona Bazaar
(I grouped this into a new section so that it wouldn't confuse the bot operator)
Dear, I'm very much new in this wikipedia so please edit the required portion of the page "che in paona bazaar" on behalf of me, Thank you in advance Sincerely yours Gargi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.79.37.7 (talk) 13:44, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
No, I am just a reader and nothing else, I bought the book from flipcart so I wrote about it to help other readers only, and entire thing was written by me , not by the help of back cover of the book, I requested you to help me that I can write about other books and authors easily in future but in stead of helping you are trying to insult me. Thanks for your ruthless behaviour 112.79.39.179 (talk) 15:48, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
- There's no intention to insult you! No worries. I was civil enough- I only asked you to address my concerns, and asked if you were the author or someone associated with him. It's a reasonable question, given that the photo of the author is apparently one taken by you, and that you're pretty much the sole editor on both his biographical page, and on the page about his book. It seemed likely to me you knew him, or possibly even work for him. As I told you, you are still permitted per policy to make those edits, even if that is the case! It's fine! But if there's a COI concern, it's recommended that you disclose it. In the case of a paid editor, it's mandatory. I'm not an administrator. Just a concerned user who tries to make sure the content on Wikipedia is up to snuff, and complies with policy, as best as I'm able. Perhaps you misunderstood my intentions. And for that I apologise.
- The material was indeed overly promotional, and sounded as if it might be a copyvio. I didn't get the opportunity to check. Prior to my posting the RS tag, the only citations were simply links to booksellers you mentioned in the article. As I told you, since you eventually provided tertiary sources, the article could conceivably be rewritten. Something I'm actually willing to do. :) I asked an impartial editor to get involved due to the number of issues and the inherent complexity, primarily in the case of the BLP. BLPs are something I have no familiarity with.
- I didn't mean any insult. Though admittedly, I certainly could have been more diplomatic. As I said, this is a bit beyond my ken. I will provide some friendly advice though, and advise you not to use different IPs to edit. Quinto Simmaco (talk) 17:40, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
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Page moves
Can you please point me to the discussion that led you to move Indra to Indra (deity) and Kamadeva to Kamadeva (deity). It seems to me unlikely that any consensus would have been reached for such moves, since there is no need for any disambiguating phrase in either of these cases. I could see a change form Indra (mythology) to Indra (deity) to make for an improved disambiguating phrase, but it is never the case where we wish to add a disambiguating phrase where none is needed (i.e. where there is no other Kamadeva article from which we need to distinguish). WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:08, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
- Sure. WP:RELIGION. I'll be happy to revert myself there. You're quite right; it does seem that we're applying it only to disambiguation pages where a deity differs from another concept or person of the same name. I'm reverting both, of course, but I do have a slight reservation regarding "Kamadeva", as he's just as often referred to as "Kama", especially in earlier periods. While I don't think there was ever a discussion as such, I suspect the more specific Kamadeva was chosen over Kama to avoid confusion with the general concept. If I'm not mistaken, dependent on the time period in question, and the region of India, I actually think "Kama" is more prevalent. So I'd actually like to suggeest such a disambiguation, in this case, though it's not strictly necessary. Quinto Simmaco (talk) 12:20, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
- The article Kama already has a hatnote directing users to the Kamadeva article, so I think we're covered. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:23, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
- Seems I was beat to it on the self-revert. Thank you, yes, I just saw that. :) I saw the disambiguation page, but missed the hatnote the first time around. It might still be an issue worth raising, more so at Wikiproject Hinduism to get comments from Hindus themselves, but it seems that the project is only semi-active these days. I doubt it would be worth trying to take a pulse there. Quinto Simmaco (talk) 12:33, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
- The article Kama already has a hatnote directing users to the Kamadeva article, so I think we're covered. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:23, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
- Sure. WP:RELIGION. I'll be happy to revert myself there. You're quite right; it does seem that we're applying it only to disambiguation pages where a deity differs from another concept or person of the same name. I'm reverting both, of course, but I do have a slight reservation regarding "Kamadeva", as he's just as often referred to as "Kama", especially in earlier periods. While I don't think there was ever a discussion as such, I suspect the more specific Kamadeva was chosen over Kama to avoid confusion with the general concept. If I'm not mistaken, dependent on the time period in question, and the region of India, I actually think "Kama" is more prevalent. So I'd actually like to suggeest such a disambiguation, in this case, though it's not strictly necessary. Quinto Simmaco (talk) 12:20, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
Kemeticism
Hello Sir,
I am a student of ancient Egyptian religion and doing research on ancient Pan-African religion and its relation to other reconstructionist religions.
The original text that was provided under Kemeticism was interesting and informative. I was still doing comparative research on the text that was available on the Wikipedia page and you went ahead and erased everything. There was no alternative information provided except for some popular cultural reference.
This information is important, why would you erased most of it??!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.205.236.66 (talk) 13:26, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
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Fair enough about the Bruno and Crowley but what information will you use to replace all the information you removed?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.205.236.66 (talk) 13:30, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
- I was actually writing a response when apparently you commented, so I'll try to revise that to address what you said here. There doesn't need to be anything replacing it. The inclusion of those two in the See Also was likely based on WP:SYNTHESIS, as it doesn't make much sense by any standard. Giordano Bruno is a 16th century philosopher and astrologer with no historical connection to Kemetism. Aliestor Crowley based Thelema on his experiences per the The Book of Abramelin, and it has no relation or place within polytheistic reconstructionism. As the article mentions, Kemetism didn't arise until nearly half a century after Crowley. Regardless, the Thoth figure of Crowley, and the subsequent passing mention by Bruno, have no connection to modern Kemetism, but are constructions of Occultism dating from the Pre-Modern and Romantic period, respectively. The former has no such connection at all, and Thelema is within the tradition of Ceremonial High Magick, which is rejected by all reconstructionists. It's not even a part of any Kemetic traditions. I removed it because I was revising the article, as the article itself is largely unreferenced, and has little to no content to speak of. So any unreferenced WP:SYNTHESIS and WP:NOR would necessarily have to be removed. I didn't provide any "alternative information" because that would go against NOR, and well, it simply doesn't exist. As I said, they're completely unrelated.
- In a more exact answer to your question, I haven't added much new material because, while I might be considered an expert on the subject, I don't want to add original research that isn't referenced. I simply haven't gotten around to searching for reliable source yet. So I've been cautious in about writing too much. I supposed I can be bold, and add the citations later, though.
- I'm guessing you're likely pretty new, and haven't fully read the relevant policies yet. I'd be happy to help you with understanding anything that's unclear about the editing process. In this case, let me explain: I was removing material that compromised the integrity of the article, as it was SYNTH, as I said. I'm not bound to replace it with more material that's contrary to policy... I'm trying to actually rewrite it according to what's published in reliable sources on the subject. But if you can somehow find a reliable secondary source claiming such a connection, please, add it. It deserves to be in there, even if it's WP:FRINGE, but it would need to be treated as such. Quinto Simmaco (talk) 13:58, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
- Just to say that I agree and have reverted the IP, who also reworded a caption so it was both poor English and asserted that the altar was an altar of Thoth, which we don't seem to know so can't claim. Dougweller (talk) 14:20, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
- I saw that, User:Dougweller. Thank you. I didn't want to revert without consensus, especially a new user. You might also want to look at the talk page for the article. In order to avoid future misunderstandings, I created a draft article on my userspace. Anyone is free to edit. Given your interest in the subject, your input would be most welcome, and appreciated. Quinto Simmaco (talk) 14:26, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry, I doubt I'll have the time. My new hats (Arb, OS, CU) are keeping me too busy to do much editing, although I do try to keep my hand in). Dougweller (talk) 16:02, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
- No problem. Door's open. :) Quinto Simmaco (talk) 16:05, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
- Just curious why you have such opinions about new users when yours is only a two week old account. Did you edit under a different account previously? Liz Read! Talk! 19:07, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
- Answered on user's talk page. Quinto Simmaco (talk) 02:27, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
- Just curious why you have such opinions about new users when yours is only a two week old account. Did you edit under a different account previously? Liz Read! Talk! 19:07, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
- No problem. Door's open. :) Quinto Simmaco (talk) 16:05, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry, I doubt I'll have the time. My new hats (Arb, OS, CU) are keeping me too busy to do much editing, although I do try to keep my hand in). Dougweller (talk) 16:02, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
- I saw that, User:Dougweller. Thank you. I didn't want to revert without consensus, especially a new user. You might also want to look at the talk page for the article. In order to avoid future misunderstandings, I created a draft article on my userspace. Anyone is free to edit. Given your interest in the subject, your input would be most welcome, and appreciated. Quinto Simmaco (talk) 14:26, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
- Just to say that I agree and have reverted the IP, who also reworded a caption so it was both poor English and asserted that the altar was an altar of Thoth, which we don't seem to know so can't claim. Dougweller (talk) 14:20, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
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Hi Quinto Simmaco, this comment of yours appears to be misplaced in the threading of the discussion, making other comments made before seem like answers to your post. I considered moving the comment to the bottom of the section but thought it might be better to suggest you do that given the sensitivity of some people to anything I might do or say on that talk page. - Nick Thorne talk 03:47, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
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Ananda Marga
I am very glad to have been invited to talk about the changes on the Ananda Marga page. I am new to Wikipedia and I wish to be able to improve the presentation of Ananda Marga. As Public relations Secretary of Ananda Marga in New York Sector I don't have an external view and I reflect what other people in Ananda Marga may wish or see. With such a bias I will need your help in order to find a best approach and overall result.
For example , the two pictures that I deleted: one is just ugly. A bunch of black lined people in icon form. Nobody can understand from that picture neither the factual stepping of the Lalita Marmika dance nor they can get the delicacy and sweetness of it. But it is difficult to find a picture which can have such characteristics and I am searching for it.
The second picture is also kind of weird. Although it refers to a statue which is a factual representation of a dance invented 7.000 years ago I don't find the picture particularly revealing neither the movement nor the essence which is in the vitality of the jumping action. Once again I will have to find a better picture if possible.
For the history of Ananda Marga it is clearly insufficient and it has been marked as requiring expansion. What are presented so far are dramatic events which have hit the headlines of newspapers but don't represent the history of a movement that has grown over and beyond those dramatic events. Should I start adding instead of deleting? How far I can add? Should I do it all at once or little by little? For example in the Ananda Marga Diary regularly published by the Public Relations Department of Ananda Marga in India there is a chronology of events that may be representative of the history of Ananda Marga. Can I use it or I need an external source like a published academic paper?
What to do next? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prsnys (talk • contribs) 10:43, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
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Hel (being) renaming thread
Hello. I have reorganized the existing thread Talk:Hel (being)#The unbearable lightness of (being). I split off those parts of the thread pertaining specifically to the viability of calling "goddess" into a separate section, and called /*Rename as Hel (goddess)?*/ for readability purpose. A part of your initial posting was placed under collapse, and the collapsed portion has been recopied into the newly created thread. Please adjust the post accordingly, or if you have deep-set issue with what I have done, please revert, etc., and discuss at my talk page accordingly.--Kiyoweap (talk) 03:57, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
- That's perfectly fine, User:Kiyoweap. I'm notorious 'iffy' regarding formatting in talk pages (at least in my own estimation), so I'm nearly always thankful when another editor makes it more readable. Though I think the section heading is unintentionally misleading; the proposal was actually Hel (deity), in order to do away with the (mythology) dab and unify other similar disambiguations, as per initial consensus at WikiProject Religion. Goddess was being discussed as an alternative. So the section heading should probably be changed. At any length, thank you for the move. Quinto Simmaco (talk) 04:07, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
Sultan Al Qasimi
People usually don't bother to say thanks. So thanks for the move of his page. :) Alexandermcnabb (talk) 10:00, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
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Co-op mentor
Hey Quinto-- thanks for your participation in the Co-op. I'm Jethro, a coordinator for the project. Just wanted to drop you a line that you have been matched, and that we're just testing out the idea of centralizing those discussions on the talk pages that correspond to your Co-op profile. Your mentor has already contacted you on Wikipedia talk:Co-op/Quinto Simmaco so feel free to get started there when you have a chance. Thanks, I, JethroBT drop me a line 17:24, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
- Hey Quinto. Just wanted to know if you're still interested in mentorship? I noticed you haven't replied to your mentor yet. If you don't feel like you need a mentor, that's fine, just let them know. I, JethroBT drop me a line 20:42, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
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For all the time and attention you give to helping people at #wikipedia-en-help :D Ϫ 11:04, 25 March 2015 (UTC) |
- Aw, thank you, OlEnglish! I love doing it, truth be told, so it's hardly work. I really appreciate it. :) Quinto Simmaco (talk) 11:55, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
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Nice to make your acquaintance
https://linkedin.com/in/mareklug --Mareklug talk 01:50, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
- A pleasure meeting you as well. Thank you for the intellectual banter. :) Quinto Simmaco (talk) 01:53, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
- I would be too modest were I not to boast of my armchair ethnography activity on-wiki: pl:Poliandria w Tybecie (Polish Wiki) and Bałwan (English). Best, --Mareklug talk 06:18, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
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You replied to his query, but you didn't really give him any help. Please look at my reverts of his edits. I had appropriate info in the edit summary. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:18, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
- @UtherSRG:, I completely agree that your revert was warranted, and that his edits weren't constructive. And your edit summary was detailed, and spot-on. It seemed he was actually attempting to use the helpme tag in an effort to address you, likely because he's a new user and didn't know how to address the other editor directly.
- Because of that, and since those were his only two edits, I tried to encourage the practice of discussion with other editors, whether it be on the article talk page, or yours. Nothing wrong with that. If you'd like, I'd be happy to detail to him why he was reverted, but under the assumption that he was trying to edit in good faith, I thought encouraging discussion was more important. Quinto Simmaco (talk) 15:42, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
- Ok. Thanks. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:17, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
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Tank you the help خادمیان (talk) 08:06, 28 March 2015 (UTC) |
قابلی ندارد، دوست من.Quinto Simmaco (talk) 08:38, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
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Hi Quinto Simmaco, you just tagged three articles (Enterprise interoperability. Enterprise modelling, Enterprise engineering) as a possible copy/paste of the http://theartofservice.com/interoperability.html webside, which has a date stamp of 13 FEB 2015, yet the articles are created about seven years ago.
Now I have been unable to find real data from that site and there is no record at https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://theartofservice.com/interoperability.html.
The most simple explanation is that the website mirrored the Wikipedia articles. Do you have anymore info that it is the other way around. -- Mdd (talk) 22:22, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
- Looking at it one more time, I found the prove that that website indeed mirrored the Wikipedia article. For example the webpage mentions:
Enterprise engineering – IDEF
IDEF, first developed as a modeling language to model manufacturing systems, has been used by the U.S. Airforce since 1981 and originally offered four different notations to model an enterprise from a certain viewpoint...
- Now if we look into the article's history and compare the first and latest version, see [1], and look at this particular quote, the particular text from the website is now the same as in Wikipedia:
IDEF
IDEF, first developed as a modeling language to model manufacturing systems, has been used by the U.S. Airforce since 1981 and originally offered four different notations...
- But it was formulated here on Wikipedia in 2008 as:
Integrated DEFinition
IDEF is a modeling language, which was first developed for the modeling of manufacturing systems. It was already being used by the U.S. Airforce in 1981...
- The text has evolved here, and is mirrored at the http://theartofservice.com/interoperability.html website. -- Mdd (talk)
- I trust this is enough indication that the website mirrored the three Wikipedia articles, so I removed the tags you added. -- Mdd (talk) 23:09, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
- Just for the record. Checking things one more time, I noticed that the website "theartofservice.com" isn't mentioned once in Wikipedia, which indicates is not an original source. -- Mdd (talk) 23:39, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
- @Mdd:, no problem. That's why it's tagged: to definitively check as to whether there is indeed a copyvio. I'm not entirely convinced it's mirrored; it is, however, likely excerpted, without attribution. Without further evidence to the contrary, I have no objection to the tags being removed. I only started searching the articles because there were a couple of related articles at AfC which had glaring copyvios, so I thought it best to err on the side of caution. Just a sidenote: there was never a claim that it was cited; most copyright violations exist without being the source being used as a reference anywhere on the encyclopedia. Thank you for checking! Quinto Simmaco (talk) 03:38, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- Just for the record. Checking things one more time, I noticed that the website "theartofservice.com" isn't mentioned once in Wikipedia, which indicates is not an original source. -- Mdd (talk) 23:39, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
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Welcome to the Pink Glasses Club!
Welcome to the Pink Glasses Club! Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:12, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Joshua Jonathan:, thank you for the warm welcome. A worthy goal indeed; we all certainly could stand to see a little more civility here in the wiki world! Quinto Simmaco (talk) 03:51, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Request for help with the Polish Wikipedia-translated Palace in Otwock Wielki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_in_Otwock_Wielki is the page for the palace, which came to my attention because I sometimes work on pages with rough translation templates. The palace "belonged to Grand Marshal of the Crown Kazimierz Bieliński and was designed in 1682". This gentleman would seem to possibly be notable enough for his own page but does not have even a stub on the English Wikipedia. While we are at it, I wikilinked Ostrówki in that article and Dabsolver wants me to disambiguate:
Ostrówki may refer to the following places:
- Ostrówki, Łódź Voivodeship (central Poland)
- Ostrówki, Lublin Voivodeship (east Poland)
- Ostrówki, Podlaskie Voivodeship (north-east Poland)
- Ostrówki, Greater Poland Voivodeship (west-central Poland)
- Ostrówki, Warmian-Masurian Voivodeship (north Poland)
Damned if I know. It's ok if you don't either, or if your Polish isn't up to the question, don't worry about it -- I had to just say [disambiguation needed] and let it go, personally. I was just there to so what good I could. But if you speak Polish at all you know more than I do, so I thought I would mention it while we were on the subject.
Here's a machine translation of the Polish page about the Grand Marshal:
- Kazimierz Louis Belinsky coat Junosza (d. 24 March 1713 in Warsaw ) - Marshal of the Crown in the years 1702 -1713, the court marshal of the Crown in 1702, the court chamberlain of the Crown in the years 1688 -1792, the Speaker of the Sejm, diplomat, governor mławski [1] , Czersk, garwoliński, Osiecki and makowski [2] .
- In 1682 , he married Marie Louise, daughter of Andrew Morsztyna , which joined the party profrancuską. His son was among Francis Belinsky , the Grand Marshal of the Crown.
- Envoy at Diets in 1683 , 1688 , 1690 . In 1688 signed the Treaty of Berlin Brandenburg to send Polish meals, which is at war with Turkey. During the interregnum was the Speaker of the Sejm elective in 1697 , supporting the candidacy of the Polish crown prince of Conti . It was only in 1699 gave Augustus II diploma his election. In 1702 was the Speaker of the Crown court , and then a big crown. He led a lavish mansion in Otwock Wielki , where frequently visit the king, became the lover of his daughter Marianne . Soon, however, gave her married Ernest Boguslaw Denhoff . During the Northern War in the years 1704-1712 was in Gdansk , not formally engaging on either side of the conflict. He was a member of the Confederation of Sandomierz 1704 years [3] .
- He was awarded the Order of the White Eagle . [4]
- Footnotes
Mark J. Minakowski, you great Poles are our family, ed. 3, Dr. Minakowski Electronic Publications, Kraków 2008, ISBN 83-918058-5-9 .
Officials central and nadworni Polish XIV-XVIII century. Censuses. "Prepared. Krzysztof Chłapowski, Stefan Ciara, Luke Kądziela, Tomasz Nowakowski, Edward Opaliński, Grazyna Rutkowska, ::Teresa Zielinska. Kornik 1992, p. 157. Actum In Castro Sandomiriensi Sabbatho Ante Festvm Sanctorum Viti et Modesti martyrum next, Anno Domini Millesimo sptingentesimo quarto [bns]. Knights and the statutes of the Order of the White Eagle, 1705-2008, 2008 , p. 139.
I am not suggesting we import it like this as, after my adventures with Notre Dame de la Garde, I can only consider machine translation a blight and curse on Wikipedia. Thanks for the introduction to the term wikignoming by the way, which was new to me, but fits me in many ways. If you wanted to do me a favor you could take a look at the Notre Dame de la Garde article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notre-Dame_de_la_Garde) and do a first-pass copy-edit. The original was horrendous (for some reason the word for altar was translated as "furnace branch" for example, many times). It took me way way way too long to put it into something even approaching English, for me to be able to conside whether the English is fluent. I am damn sure it is not, actually, but I am sick of the sight of the thing. Elinruby (talk) 19:44, 2 April 2015 (UTC) alta
- PS -- Apparently I need to look up how to escape a template syntax, lol. Sorry about that.
@Elinruby:, no apologies necessary, and thank you for the wealth of information! Seriously; this will make it a heck of a lot easier to begin work on this; it likely won't be immediate, as I've been fairly busy with off-wiki things as of late. I have no doubt I'll be able to find someone competent in Polish to work with; doing so would certainly save me from what could potentially be hours spent muddling through to produce a sub-standard translation- that could easily be achieved in mere minutes by a fluent speaker. And you're welcome, by the way, regarding the introduction to the terminology. I found "Wikifauna" an odd concept originally, but its since grown on me. Also, just a gentle reminder: remember to sign your comments with four tildes (Quinto Simmaco (talk) 03:47, 4 April 2015 (UTC)). Quinto Simmaco (talk) 03:47, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Quinto Simmaco: I see I did forget; my bad. I usually don't but was rushing that day. There's a Polish speaker who had the article on his watchlist who showed up to scold me for removing the red wikilinks on something and who did bust out a stub for me but I don't think it's a translation so if you are able to recruit someone who is interested that would be great. The article is full of mysteries (windowbags?) that a Polish speaker might quickly understand. I alsi did an interwiki link to a page about a polish politician who has no english wiki page, etc, etc. If time and interest permit of course. As always in wikipedia. Elinruby (talk) 04:53, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Comment: I happened to be passing by, and could not help but notice this little request/reply. Ahem, I hasten to inform y'all that am a native Polish speaker and encyclopedia editor in full lexical bloom, and that this calls for offering myself for any collaboration on this score or any other Polishing ;).. --Mareklug talk 09:30, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- P.S. As my first good deed, allow me to correct the "Ostrówki" bit. First of all, it is not "Ostrówki" at all in this case but "Ostrówek", which happens to become under declension "Ostrówkiem". It appears to have somehow lost its -em suffix, and thus got hashed to a no-place called "Ostrówki", several of which are scattered amongst the regions of Poland, ironically, nowhere near the Mazovian Voivodship that prides itself on having the salient Ostrówek. ;)
- The event in question has no English Wikipedia article yet (and should!): pl:Bitwa pod Ostrówkiem. Ostrówek is an even more maddening disambiguation proposition, than the limited possibilities of Ostrówki. Click on the link if you want to scare yourself. The one you want is Ostrówek, Otwock County, that you lies just southeast of the capital, Warsaw, roughly in the vicinity of the country's main river, Vistula. The article pl:Battle of Radzymin (1809) contains a red link to Battle of Ostrówek, piped sneakily as "Ostrówek", thus aiding and abetting the redlinkness in question. By the way, the expert user who is both sagely Polish and specializes in all aspects of Polish (military) history on the English Wikipedia, as well as Amerind Indians on the Polish Wikipedia (go figure) is one User:Belissarius, who lives in Chicago, like me, but we don't cross paths often enough, and that is not by my choice, as I have repeatedly entreated him to join my LinkedIn network to no avail... --10:14, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Incidentally, I don't want to make you uncomfortable, but that county, Otwock County, contains villages in close proximity called: Ostrówek, Ostrówik, Ostrówiec, and Ostrów. ;) --Mareklug talk 10:33, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Elinruby:: Mareklug suggests that I may help you, but I don't know how. Would you please tell me what's the problem? belissarius (talk) 05:47, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Mareklug: @Belissarius: LOL I am already uncomfortable, which is why I was asking for help ;) So, here is my thing: when annoyed with my RL problems I sometimes pick of problems to solve in Wikipedia where there is at least visible, if incremental improvement. I hang out particularly in the translation to-do lists because I am native speaker of English with essentially native-level skills in French, so that seems like stuff I can so that other people can't. Also IT, but that's another story. But anyway, I was bored with the same 14 articles that have been on the French rough translation list for forever and in a fit of insanity became embroiled in this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_in_Otwock_Wielki, which is flagged as a rough translation from Polish, which indeed it is, rough, that is. I've made some headway but my Polish is nonexistent, not even yes, no or hello. I do understand what you said about declensions as I have done a little German and Russian in another lifetime, however... anyway. I think I may be able to fix the problem with that battle that is mentioned above given what you have told me, if you didn't do it yourself, but eh, essentially the article could use some help from someone who can guess what idiom might have been translated that way. "Windowbags" in particular I really have no idea about. And perhaps you could see if the wikilinks I through in there are going to the right places? The one I put on Joseph Fontana turned out to be going to an American detective. I caught that one but if the error is more Polish I would never know the difference, Basically, If you can help this article, please do. I have no particular pride of authorship (editorship?) involved here. If I have inserted any errors please correct them. Just thinking that it seems to be an important chunk of European history that isn't really covered. And trying to move the article from gibberish to English. The other thing is, there are a lot of people referred to by last name only,as if people would definitely know the person (like Lincoln maybe?) that perhaps should be identified and wikilinked... etc..... whatever you have the time and inclination to do I would appreciate. And thank you Quinto Simmaco for letting me write all over your talk page, LOL. Elinruby (talk) 22:05, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
- ...one thing led to 'nother, what with Wikipedia bein' a slippery slope, and... Done. ;)
- And user:Belissarius being the expert in such matters could enblue the remaining red link, Batle of Ostrówek, if he could spare the time. ;) Bye! --Mareklug talk 09:21, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
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Opportunity to improve Freddi Fish
Greetings. I understand that you are a member of the Adventure games task force, so I'd like to invite you for an opportunity for teamwork on editing such articles related to adventure games. I have been working for some time on the articles of Humongous Entertainment's Freddi Fish franchise, doing some research on notable merchandise and reviews and awards about each game. I would like your help to make one or more those articles 'good articles'. Talk:Freddi Fish contains a list of objectives. If you're interested in contributing, I look forward to it. If not, please forward this message to anyone you know, who might be interested. Deltasim (talk) 10:32, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
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Thank you for asking me to continue to edit,but...
...I have been summarily banned for life by Todst1 for daring to restart editing after Jayjg's ban of 2 years expired. (He gave no reason other than to exclaim "What expiration?”) This is what happens when you dare to publish facts that contradict the imperious opinions of the major editors—and show them to be false. Examples gladly given. But you’ll probably need to contact me at Tholzel@gmail.com, as Todst1 keeps a sharp eye out for any posting of mine. I don't even see how this one is possible—but it won’t last long—usually 15 minutes--before he pounces. Also, of course, he neatly cut-off any access to review by others, etc. (The guy is frothing at the mouth dangerous.)24.44.181.147 (talk) 14:34, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- @24.44.181.147 and Jayjg:... From what I can tell, User:24.44.181.147, your block was likely extended to indefinite for block evasion. If you had avoided that, I think everything would be in order. Until now, I was unaware that you were an existing user; the welcome template that I posted is specifically geared toward encouraging new IP users to create a static account and become part of the community, in addition to providing some information to help them make constructive contributions to the encyclopedia. With all due respect, as I don't know anything about you aside from what I just read on your SPI (which is one of the more extensive I've seen), I really have no reason to contact you. Your grievances, for all I know, may in fact have some substance to them- but that's completely immaterial and beside the point. Truth be told, I've had no interaction with User:Todst1. I couldn't even find a registered account by that name. My few peripheral experiences with User:Jayjg have been uniformly civil. I've always thought he was rather reasonable, personally.
- It should be said: an indefinite block is not a "ban for life", if the user is cognizant of their disruptions and the reason for their blocking, and shows a genuine commitment to change and edit constructively. Ignoring your previous history of block evasion altogether, I don't see any indication of that here, in all honesty. It's entirely possible that all of the edits made on this IP account (which I did not extensively check) may have in fact been constructive; but saying that another editor is "frothing at the mouth dangerous" is certainly not something said in that spirit.
- As I said, I have nothing against you, as I don't know you. But aside from contributing to the general mission of expanding the culture of free and fair knowledge and ideas, what I do most here is encourage editor retention and involvement to that end. Not to champion any causes contrary to those aforementioned goals, or be a disruptive force in the community.
- I do hope you take stock of why you were blocked, and perhaps return one day if you feel you might be an asset to the community- and can be civil and work within the bounds of said community. I'm of the opinion that even some of the worst offenders can be redeemed, and should be given every opportunity to prove that. But they have to truly have a desire to do so, and be willing to compromise by contributing (at least initially) under whatever conditions the community might propose. You likely won't be able to respond to this, but you should be pinged when I post this reply. But so that you're aware, in the interest of civility and transparency, so will the other editors that you mentioned. I wish you well. Don't take anything I've said as condemnation or conspiracy, as I can assure you it's neither. But rather, take it with a grain of salt, and as encouragement to come back one day, when you're ready. Quinto Simmaco (talk) 15:28, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply. The banning editor is Toddst1. He makes the claim that I used block evasion--something that is conveniently impossible to disprove. But I did not. I never attempted to edite anything during my ban because I know how closely they watch me. And, unfortunately, the issue has nothing to do with civility--it has to do with --dare I say it?--a fierce hatred by the editors of David Irving, such that his bio--longer than Stalin's--had a paragraph in it insulting him, written by the same guy that was caught burgling his apartment. When I pointerd the unfairness of this out, this and many similar assaults on truth were just too much for them. I fian;;lay got so sick of their desperate slant (e.g., 84% negative statments on Irving, 37% negative on Stalin) I correctly called them Jewish zealots (true and never denied) They quickly found all sorts of errors of my ways. I had authored an anti-Semitic website they claimed—which is ridiculous--and. of course, never identified. It went on and on. NEVER ONCE did they address my complaints about thier illegal behavior. Instead, they just piled on more and more false claims. And they all agreed, so no appeal was necessary.
Of course this reply--the first permitted in several years--will be gleefully seized once again as "block evasion" and another year or so added to my sentence. But thanks for at least replying. 24.44.181.147 (talk) 18:07, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
New Section
VaibhavGandhi1 (talk) 16:15, 9 April 2015 (UTC) Hello. Sorry, I wanted to contact you but dont know whether this is the right approach or not, as i got confused with how i should write to you. I had made a few edits re Motor Imagery, BCI, EEG etc., and cited my book (published last year) for more information. It seems you have considered this as my way of publicising my book (Anyway it was published last year.. And I have no interest in publicising it this year :) ). I am okay with wiki not publicising my book. I would appreciate if you could advise, if i want to make some contribution on the mentioned topics, and cite a good references. Should i cite someone else's work (that doesnt exist)? The work that i have described in my book is the only work that has been carried out till date towards practical implementation of quantum mechanics for EEG signal filtering. Thank you :)