Talk:X-COM: UFO Defense

Removed info

I removed the following info from the Sequels section of the article:

However, UFO: Aftermath, created by Cenega, essentially achieves that goal, as it creates a game highly similar to the original (although with a key plot difference that it is set after a catastrophic alien attack) but with simplified base control and real time combat in place of the original turn-based system.

I removed it because Cenega (or Altar Interactive) came right out and stated that their game, though very much like X-COM was not an X-COM game. It wasn't an official part of the series, it just had some similar elements. As a compromise, I added a link to the game (which doesn't have an article as of this writing) to the See also section. — Frecklefoot | Talk 15:10, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

AGA version

I've just being playing UFO: Enemy Unknown on WinUAE, the Amiga emulator. If you do a little searching, there's an adf of the AGA version. The graphics are far better than the crappy PC Dos version or the old Amiga 500 version, higher resoultion, more colourful, smoother, etc... the music is also very atmospheric compared to other versions. Download WinUAE and check it out. It takes a while to get the correct configuarion, but it's worth it. I'm addicted all over again...

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Image additions

If you look at this version, you'll see that Coolcat added a slew of images of alien ships with their statistics. I reverted them without discussion. This is way too much info for this game and is unencyclopedic. Changes of this sort which have been made to other articles have also been dismissed, so I have precedent. I recommend adding such information to a Wikibook, but not to the main 'pedia entry. — Frecklefoot | Talk 16:35, August 22, 2005 (UTC)

PLease do not determine what is encyclopedic and what isnt. I have reverted that back. This is an article about the game and the information I provided is only to that extent. If you are suggesting fancruft you may want to argue to that extent. --Cool Cat ^{My Talk} 18:32, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

It is my duty (and every editor's) to determine what is encyclopedic and what is not. However, I won't revert your revert without resolving it here first.

I do indeed think your additions are fancruft. I'm a huge fan of the game, but all the statistics and images you added would only be of interest to the hardcore fan. The information would be great for a strategy guide or a walkthrough, but it simply isn't encyclopedic. I don't where it is now, but there is a sister project for all this type of game information. Things such as this and cheat codes are a great place for it, but not an article that is supposed to give a general overview of the game.

Unfortunately, this article isn't very heavily watched, or we'd have more input from other editors on this point. If you like, you can raise the issue on the Computer and video games WikiProject (a project you might be interested in joining). There, other editors who are much more into games than I am can weigh in on the issue.

Thank you for being open to discussing this issue. :-) — Frecklefoot | Talk 21:17, August 23, 2005 (UTC)

I agree with Frecklefoot, while the information is, on some level, interesting, I don't think it's particularly encyclopedic. Now I'm sure you could probably point out some equally bad cases of fancruft that never get's deleted, but I still think that it should be removed. --CVaneg 00:46, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

I agree that it should be removed. I am not keen to have more fair-use material than necessary in articles, and this addition introduces too many. -- Jon Dowland 13:54, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

I removed the information. It'd be fine for a strategy guide, such as a Wikibook, but not a Wikipedia article. — Frecklefoot | Talk 14:29, September 8, 2005 (UTC)

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Fan sites

I moved them to the main X-COM article, where they belong. Also the last one had incorrect markup, and I fixed it. — Frecklefoot | Talk 14:02, September 8, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. You are quite right, that is the best place. I've added a note to the article directing people to X-COM for more external links, so hopefully, people like me won't keep adding them thinking they are missing. ;-) JesseW, the juggling janitor 02:51, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

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Name change

Morwen changed the name to X-COM: Enemy Unknown. While this is the original name of the game in the UK (where it was developed), this article was written about and contains information based on the North American version. For an example, see the scan of the player's manual in the infobox. I'd like to keep it as X-COM: UFO Defense, but I'm not strongly opposed to a name change. But the graphics used in the article should be changed as well.

But more importantly, the article should be moved to X-COM: Enemy Unknown, not just changed in the article. Please discuss here before attempting to move again. A namespace change should almost always be discussed first. :-) — Frecklefoot | Talk 01:31, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

No they shouldn't. However, since you've stated your opposition to it I'm happy to discuss. I don't see why you merely reverted though - the text before was downright misleading. I've altered the wording again to make it clear what the name of the game actually is, whilst keeping the brand that was adopted for the US release in the article first. Morwen - Talk 07:46, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Russian novelization

Is the Russian novelization of X-COM officially licensed?