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==Quotes== |
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Would someone please explain to me why some inconsiderate soul felt it necessary to remove all the quotes from this episode? The quotes help casual readers and Futurama fans alike get a sense of the episode's tone. What was the point of removing them? Spite? A desire to have control? --[[User:Awakeandalive1]] May 25, 2006. |
Would someone please explain to me why some inconsiderate soul felt it necessary to remove all the quotes from this episode? The quotes help casual readers and Futurama fans alike get a sense of the episode's tone. What was the point of removing them? Spite? A desire to have control? --[[User:Awakeandalive1]] May 25, 2006. |
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:Er, no. Wikipedia [[WP:NOT|is not]] a repository of quotations, they belong at sister project [[q:Main_Page|Wikiquote]].--[[User:Sean Black|Sean Black]] 03:48, 26 May 2006 (UTC) |
:Er, no. Wikipedia [[WP:NOT|is not]] a repository of quotations, they belong at sister project [[q:Main_Page|Wikiquote]].--[[User:Sean Black|Sean Black]] 03:48, 26 May 2006 (UTC) |
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::::::And again, I understand how the complete reproduction of *all* the quotes from an episode would constitute duplication, but the inclusion of a few select quotes seems like it makes a lot of sense. Information is often "duplicated" from Wikipedia sister pages (vis. Wikinews, Wikisources, Wiktionary, etc.) because the information is relevant to the subject in the respective Wikipedia entries. The trivia and the references are rarely "''summaries''." And again, ''legally'', the images, characters and all liknessess are copyrighted. As far as I could tell, it sounds like quotes fall under 'fair use' as well, provided they are used with discrimination and restraint and are relevant to the article. However you interpret it as you will. --[[User:Awakeandalive1|Awakeandalive1]] May 26, 2006. |
::::::And again, I understand how the complete reproduction of *all* the quotes from an episode would constitute duplication, but the inclusion of a few select quotes seems like it makes a lot of sense. Information is often "duplicated" from Wikipedia sister pages (vis. Wikinews, Wikisources, Wiktionary, etc.) because the information is relevant to the subject in the respective Wikipedia entries. The trivia and the references are rarely "''summaries''." And again, ''legally'', the images, characters and all liknessess are copyrighted. As far as I could tell, it sounds like quotes fall under 'fair use' as well, provided they are used with discrimination and restraint and are relevant to the article. However you interpret it as you will. --[[User:Awakeandalive1|Awakeandalive1]] May 26, 2006. |
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==Mount Rushmore?== |
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The image of the Super-Villain on Mount Rushmore is almost the identical clone of the villain from the old Fighting Fantasy gamebook [[ |
The image of the Super-Villain on Mount Rushmore is almost the identical clone of the villain from the old Fighting Fantasy gamebook [[Appointment with F.E.A.R]], the picture is on the cover and also there are a couple of illustrations of the villain in the book. Could this be a reference? - 14.43 GMT 27 July 2007 |
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Quotes
Would someone please explain to me why some inconsiderate soul felt it necessary to remove all the quotes from this episode? The quotes help casual readers and Futurama fans alike get a sense of the episode's tone. What was the point of removing them? Spite? A desire to have control? --User:Awakeandalive1 May 25, 2006.
- Er, no. Wikipedia is not a repository of quotations, they belong at sister project Wikiquote.--Sean Black 03:48, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- The bulk of them, yes. But the quotes (especially for episodes of television programs) give a good sense of what the show is like. Besides which, many, many episode guides for series here on Wikipedia include quotes. Is this Wikipedia's hard-and-fast policy or is it just a particular interpretation? I could find nothing there which specifically or even broadly referred to quotes. --Awakeandalive1, May 26, 2006.
- Not only is Wikipedia not an indiscriminate collection of information, excerpts from a TV program are copyrighted, you know. --Rory096 05:50, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- And I still don't see how quotes relevant to an episode constitute a breach of that, especially since trivia and references are collected on the same page, but do as you will. Also a lot of the content and information reproduced here is copyrighted. If that's the motive for removing the quotes, then you lot have a LOT of work ahead of you...especially since the characters, images and likenesses are technically copyrighted and property of their respective corporations. --Awakeandalive1, May 26, 2006.
- You're confusing yourself here. The things you mention are summaries of the programme. Quotes lifted directly from the program, presented in a list, shouldn't be in Wikipedia articles because it's duplicated with (again) our sister project Wikiquote, and because doing so is quite questionable under the terms of GFDL and the fair use provision of U.S. law, if not in direct violation.--Sean Black 07:47, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- And again, I understand how the complete reproduction of *all* the quotes from an episode would constitute duplication, but the inclusion of a few select quotes seems like it makes a lot of sense. Information is often "duplicated" from Wikipedia sister pages (vis. Wikinews, Wikisources, Wiktionary, etc.) because the information is relevant to the subject in the respective Wikipedia entries. The trivia and the references are rarely "summaries." And again, legally, the images, characters and all liknessess are copyrighted. As far as I could tell, it sounds like quotes fall under 'fair use' as well, provided they are used with discrimination and restraint and are relevant to the article. However you interpret it as you will. --Awakeandalive1 May 26, 2006.
- You're confusing yourself here. The things you mention are summaries of the programme. Quotes lifted directly from the program, presented in a list, shouldn't be in Wikipedia articles because it's duplicated with (again) our sister project Wikiquote, and because doing so is quite questionable under the terms of GFDL and the fair use provision of U.S. law, if not in direct violation.--Sean Black 07:47, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- And I still don't see how quotes relevant to an episode constitute a breach of that, especially since trivia and references are collected on the same page, but do as you will. Also a lot of the content and information reproduced here is copyrighted. If that's the motive for removing the quotes, then you lot have a LOT of work ahead of you...especially since the characters, images and likenesses are technically copyrighted and property of their respective corporations. --Awakeandalive1, May 26, 2006.
- Not only is Wikipedia not an indiscriminate collection of information, excerpts from a TV program are copyrighted, you know. --Rory096 05:50, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- The bulk of them, yes. But the quotes (especially for episodes of television programs) give a good sense of what the show is like. Besides which, many, many episode guides for series here on Wikipedia include quotes. Is this Wikipedia's hard-and-fast policy or is it just a particular interpretation? I could find nothing there which specifically or even broadly referred to quotes. --Awakeandalive1, May 26, 2006.
Mount Rushmore?
The image of the Super-Villain on Mount Rushmore is almost the identical clone of the villain from the old Fighting Fantasy gamebook Appointment with F.E.A.R, the picture is on the cover and also there are a couple of illustrations of the villain in the book. Could this be a reference? - 14.43 GMT 27 July 2007