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The table as it currently stands only covers Sexual Orientation rights and not Trans* or Intersex rights. A separate table should be had for Trans* and Intersex rights as Gender/Gender Identity and Sexual Orientation are not the same and making additions to the existing table in terms of columns would make the current table unwieldy and confusing. The current table easily portrays the information on Sexual Orientation rights and is titled accordingly. As such to adequately portray to the same standards the Gender/Gender Identity rights properly a separate table is needed. Sport and politics (talk) 14:12, 21 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I would prefer to have one table only if possible, to keep information per country. We could remove the column about the military, we can just add a note below for Cyprus. For anti-discrimination laws, we can distinguish between countries with SO only and SO & GI anti-discrimination laws. Same for hate speech laws. Then we could add a column for laws on gender change. What columns would you include in a separate table for laws on gender/gender identity? SPQRobin (talk) 14:44, 21 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The minimum GI Columns need to be IMO, Transsexualism declassified as a disease, Trans* people allowed to change documents and legal gender, The recognition of more than just male and Female Genders, and being allowed to change their gender and retain then marriage/union without being required to divorce/dissolve it for trans people and the right to marry for Intersex people. That is at least 4/5 new columns If there are separate columns on the rights to serve in the military and specific anti discrimination laws to GI then we are up to 6/7 columns, making a table with more than enough information and easily distinguishable that sexual orientation and Gender Identity are not the same and there are significant differences between the two in terms of rights and equality. At the moment the table gives a false impression that GI and SO are the same and the GI is on a par with SO when in fact it is far from it. Sport and politics (talk) 09:11, 22 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

SO and GI are of course not the same, but in similar tables they are always combined (LGBT rights by country or territory). I'm not opposed to a separate table on this article, but:

Transsexualism declassified as a disease: I didn't find much information about it, but I would be surprised if a EU country classified it as a disease. (We neither include a column about homosexuality being (de)classified as a disease.)
Trans* people allowed to change documents and legal gender: this should certainly be added
GI anti-discrimination laws can be specified in the existing column, like we usually do on LGBT rights articles
For the other rights you mentioned, they are often difficult to find and often not even reported on in the main LGBT rights article of the country.

I'm also not sure whether we should restrict the table to legal aspects relevant to EU law or if we can include any relevant LGBT rights. SPQRobin (talk) 18:43, 22 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned references in LGBT rights in the European Union

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of LGBT rights in the European Union's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "ILGA 2013":

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 18:56, 5 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Malta do have civil unions and adoption now

I reverse the changes of the phantom user Knisfo about Malta, since the source that he is offering as exchange of mine is not contradicting mine but confirming that the bill passed its 3rd reading. --Stalik (talk) 07:53, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The bill passed by parliament has not been signed yet. There is no Civil Union law (in force).

Malta does not have Civil unions. Knisfo (talk) 09:34, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My recent edits

So a few anonymous users have persisted to delete my edits. And I would like to know why.

- Same-sex marriage is not legal in Ireland, I am aware of that but it will soon be. It was approved via referendum. So it should be added even though it is not legal yet.

- Under "Recognition of same-sex unions", all types of recognition should be added. Civil union, Registered Partnership and Unregistered cohabitation are all types of recognition. Unregistered cohabitation recognizes same-sex couples but it does with less benefits than Civil union (or Registered Partnership). This means that Civil union (or Registered Partnership) outranks Unregistered cohabitation. Some countries (Portugal and Spain) have legalized unregistered cohabitation. Some other countries have legalized unregistered cohabitation and then later Civil union (or Registered Partnership). I think the easiest thing to do is only mention the highest level of recognition. For example: Portugal. Portugal legalized Unregistered cohabitation in 2001 but not Civil union (or Registered Partnership). Anyways Portugal does recognize same-sex couples. Another example: The Netherlands. The Netherlands legalized Unregistered cohabitation in 1979 and much later Registered Partnership in 1998. Like I said before the easiest thing to do is add only the highest level of recognition. So for The Netherlands only Registered Partnership should be mentioned.

- Lastly "Recognition of same-sex unions" means that recognizes same-sex couples. In Denmark and Sweden, partnerships are not performed but are recognized. Meaning that both Denmark and Sweden both recognize same-sex couples. 92.107.68.17 (talk) 09:30, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]