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:::None of those international organizations are of any significance. Northern Cyprus is barred from all significant international organizations. Your desired additions are [[WP:UNDUE]] and [[WP:POV]] and won't be added to the lead or anywhere. [[User:Athenean|Athenean]] ([[User talk:Athenean|talk]]) 23:33, 30 May 2015 (UTC) |
:::None of those international organizations are of any significance. Northern Cyprus is barred from all significant international organizations. Your desired additions are [[WP:UNDUE]] and [[WP:POV]] and won't be added to the lead or anywhere. [[User:Athenean|Athenean]] ([[User talk:Athenean|talk]]) 23:33, 30 May 2015 (UTC) |
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::::I visited Northern Cyprus several times in the last years. 99% of the cases, near the flag of Northern Cyprus is waving the Flag of Turkey. I think that this explains all. [[User:Alessandro57|Alex2006]] ([[User talk:Alessandro57|talk]]) 09:08, 31 May 2015 (UTC) |
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Speculative press reports
@GGT: could you explain what you mean with 'despite ...'? 'Such reports have never been scientifically or statistically scrutinized, despite opportunities of opposition parties, which has resulted in a "war of numbers".' Alakzi (talk) 19:37, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
- I have attempted to do so, how is it now? --GGT (talk) 19:54, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
- Makes sense now, thanks. Will you also edit the next paragraph, where it's claimed that Turkish settlers outnumber Turkish Cypriots? Alakzi (talk) 20:14, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
The North is a country
Alakzi said: "Upon further inspection, disputed territories do not use any of the country categories, so I'm removing all of them" and requested us discussing here. Please see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Countries_in_Europe (Kosovo is listed here). It seems that either Kosovo is not disputed acc. to Alakzi or he missed Kosovo during his inspection. Also, I remember someone mentioned on this issue in the Talk page very recently.Ayka3b (talk) 19:54, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
De facto handling of Northern Cyprus as a separate country
"While unrecognized internationally except by Turkey, the international community has taken a pragmatic approach administratively to the division of the island" can be loaded to the introductory part.
Reference:
Andrew Grossman, 2015, Global Law for Justice, New York University, "Finding the Law - the Micro-States and Small Jurisdictions of Europe: Andorra, Cyprus, Northern Cyprus, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, Montenegro, San Marino, Vatican State; UK European dependencies: Channel Islands, Gibraltar, Isle of Man; Faroe Islands and Greenland"
http://www.nyulawglobal.org/globalex/Microstates.htm Ayka3b (talk) 21:09, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
- What does that mean, "pragmatic"? As far as I can tell, nothing. Unrecognized means unrecognized. A puppet state is a puppet state. Athenean (talk) 21:22, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
- Parliamentary Assembly of European Council (PACE) elects Greek Cypriot members of PACE from the Assembly of Rep. of Cyprus whereas it elects Turkish Cypriot members of PACE from the Assembly of Northern Cyprus (though PACE does not recognize NC). This is only one example of what "pragmatic" means. Also, there are countless international organizations to which Northern Cyprus is a member. Hence, the introductory part should be changed by taking into account this reality. The suggestions can be:
- Northern Cyprus is de jure considered by the international community to be part of the Republic of Cyprus.
- Northern Cyprus is considered by the international community to be part of the Republic of Cyprus while pragmatically there are varying handlings
- etc.
- Anyway, a native speaker can better design the introductory part. I revealed only the deficiency in the introductory. It is up to linguistic experts to codify the introductory: I am no such.Ayka3b (talk) 21:46, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
- Parliamentary Assembly of European Council (PACE) elects Greek Cypriot members of PACE from the Assembly of Rep. of Cyprus whereas it elects Turkish Cypriot members of PACE from the Assembly of Northern Cyprus (though PACE does not recognize NC). This is only one example of what "pragmatic" means. Also, there are countless international organizations to which Northern Cyprus is a member. Hence, the introductory part should be changed by taking into account this reality. The suggestions can be:
- None of those international organizations are of any significance. Northern Cyprus is barred from all significant international organizations. Your desired additions are WP:UNDUE and WP:POV and won't be added to the lead or anywhere. Athenean (talk) 23:33, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
- I visited Northern Cyprus several times in the last years. 99% of the cases, near the flag of Northern Cyprus is waving the Flag of Turkey. I think that this explains all. Alex2006 (talk) 09:08, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
- None of those international organizations are of any significance. Northern Cyprus is barred from all significant international organizations. Your desired additions are WP:UNDUE and WP:POV and won't be added to the lead or anywhere. Athenean (talk) 23:33, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
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