User talk:Marbe166

Toini Gustafsson/Rönnlund

Hello.

Although her name in press often appears as Toini Gustafsson-Rönnlund, according to both Swedish Census 1970 (Sveriges befolkning 1970, a cd) and the webplace www.ratsit.se (which builds on the current census records), her name is in fact Toini Rönnlund. She married Assar Rönnlund in 1968, so this seems to have been the case since then. Do you have any references for your move?

If not, I will move this article to Toini Rönnlund in a near future.

Cheers.

HandsomeFella (talk) 22:26, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

You are right, but, she never appears as Toini Rönnlund in the press or record books etc. It's either her maiden name Toini Gustafsson (which she used for the most part of her carrer) or Toini Gustafsson Rönnlund. Therefore the article should be named Toini Gustafsson Rönnlund (without hyphen). --Marbe166 (talk) 07:53, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Do you have any statistics to support your claim? HandsomeFella (talk) 11:21, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

A quick google search only finds pages with Toini Gustafsson (Gustavsson in some) or Toini Gustafsson Rönnlund. The Swedish national encyclopedia ne.se has her listed as Toini Gustafsson Rönnlund. ne.se --Marbe166 (talk) 13:33, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

I did an "extended" google search with search string in double quotes. These are the results:

• Toini Gustafsson: 18,400
• Toini Gustafsson Rönnlund: 3,760
• Toini Rönnlund: 368

Given the result, I suggest we move the article to Toini Gustafsson, and word the lede like this:

Toini Gustafsson (married name Toini Rönnlund, often also Toini Gustafsson Rönnlund, born 17 January 1938 in Suomussalmi, Finland) is a retired Swedish cross-country skier...

What do you think? Maybe we could skip the often also part?

HandsomeFella (talk) 14:09, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

I disagree with your move suggestion. I feel that since her surname de facto is Rönnlund but she is mostly known as Gustafsson it is most right to have her credited as Gustafsson Rönnlund, of course with a redirect from both Toini Gustafsson and Toini Rönnlund. Also, both ne.se and Swedish Wikipedia has her as Gustafsson Rönnlund. I suggest the following lede:

Toini Gustafsson Rönnlund (born Toini Gustafsson, 17 January 1938 in Suomussalmi, Finland) is a retired Swedish cross-country skier...

--Marbe166 (talk) 22:57, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

ne.se is just one source, and wikipedia is not source to itself, so se.wiki does not count.

Since we cant agree, I'll put the page up on WP:RM, so the greater community can have a say.

Cheers. HandsomeFella (talk) 15:47, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

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