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Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give Barrios and Communes of Buenos Aires a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into another page with a different name. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

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It was NOT a cut and past move. It was an ARTICLE SPLIT. Eldizzino (talk) 20:13, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A cut and paste move, is when you take the contents of one page, place it on another page, then blank/redirect the original article to the new page(s). This is what you did. You moved the contents to two different pages (existing redirects), then removed all of the information from the original page. That is the very definition of a cut/paste move.

The correct way to do this (IF there is consensus - and not just you thinking you should do it now that it's got to this point.) is that the communes section should be moved out of the article, and the existing page moved to the new title (Barrio or neighbourhood).

As I said though, now it's got to this point, you need to explain WHY it should be split, with relevent 'arguments', not just because it should be or because that's the way the spanish wikipedia has it - Happysailor ^(Talk) 20:21, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It was an article SPLIT. The old bad article could not and cannot be moved to TWO targets. It is not "Barrio or neighbourhood", it is Neighbourhoods of Buenos Aires and Communes of Buenos Aires. Eldizzino (talk) 22:42, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but the way that you were splitting it wasn't correct, also you need a consensus to do the split. Since I'm pretty sure you were trying to be helpful, I'm going to try and setup the article split discussion. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:57, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If something in the splitting was not correct, then Happysailor could have said so. But they didn't. And if I would be aware of what was not correct I could have either fixed it, or someone else could have fixed it. After all this is a WIKI that allows collaboration. BUT: Thank you for now helping with the CONTENT discussion. Eldizzino (talk) 23:06, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

One of the problems is you shouldn't be splitting articles without a consensus to do so. I've proposed a split, and opened up discussion about it at Talk:Barrios and Communes of Buenos Aires#Split Proposal- if there is a consensus to perform the split, then it would involve some complicated moving for attribution purposes. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:09, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Barrios and Communes of Buenos Aires. You don't have a consensus to do this. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:59, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Barrios and Communes of Buenos Aires. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:00, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have blocked you for an hour, just to give you a chance to cool off and consider the advice that you have been given, before you end up earning a much longer block. bd2412 T 20:06, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You are corrupt. You abused your admins rights. I did split the bad article. I described it in the talk page. The other editors reverted, claiming "vandalism", full a bad faith. Claiming edit warring, where they did edit war - they did not discuss anything, while I use the talk page. And you on the talk wrote, there is no need for disambiguation - and when I wanted to remove Template:disambiguation you already blocked me. Eldizzino (talk) 20:11, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Discussing the issue does not mean repeatedly reverting other editors while adding a talk page justification for your actions. It means letting the status quo be while persuading others of the merits of your position. bd2412 T 20:27, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The others were no way interested in the content. The just reverted shouting "Vandalism" and alike. Eldizzino (talk) 22:41, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Also, if you continue reverting when unblocked, you'll just get blocked for longer. Try formulating a sensible argument instead- for instance, looking at how reliable sources deal with it. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:32, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that is the corrupt cult here. You can revert without having demonstrated interest in the topic, and you don't get blocked. But I get blocked. Eldizzino (talk) 22:40, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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I did split the bad article. I described it in the talk page. You blindly reverted, claiming edit warring, where YOU did edit war - you did not discuss anything, while I use the talk page.

You could first place report yourself. Eldizzino (talk) 20:13, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No, because cut-and-paste moves are a violation of Wikipedia copyright, and so are exempt. Go to talkpage, get a consensus, then move it properly. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:22, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There is not other way to SPLIT an article, than COPY and PASTE. Go, and report yourself. Eldizzino (talk) 22:40, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'm just about to set up a discussion the proper way, so no, I'm not going to report myself. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:58, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Cardenal Caro department

Hi, I have expanded the article with content based on one of my articles (not Wikipedia articles) :-P I will, however, move back Cardenal Caro Province article to Cardenal Caro, it had been like that for years. --Diego Grez (talk) 05:33, 7 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Not sure what all changes you have been making, but my inbox has been flooded with messages. I truly appreciate any help on my hacienda and Municipalities of Yucatán project. I did 20 of the municipalities this month and plan to do another set of 20 next month and did 10 of the haciendas from the talk page on Haciendas of Yucatán. I'm shooting for another 10 of those as well. As you can tell, I sort of use the same "format" on all of them. Can you give me a brief explanation of the changes you made so that I can update my blank form and save us both a lot of work? It's a massive project and to keep myself from burn out, I'm trying to stick with 30 on it per month leaving myself time for other articles. SusunW (talk) 20:18, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@SusunW: I like what you do! I changed:

links to "Yucatán" to "Yucatán (state)" - there are a lot of false links around, sometimes from items before the state existed, so if one means the state and not the peninsula or the region, then the most clear is to link to "Yucatán (state)"
any "Municipality of X" to "X Municipality" - for to have a consistent representation, facilitating reading and understanding.

I think that's it. Do you have the blank form somewhere online? Maybe I forgot something. Additionally:

There are Mérida Municipality in other countries, unambiguous link would be Mérida Municipality, Yucatán. Eldizzino (talk) 20:26, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! And you are correct, they should point to the state and not the peninsula. I didn't set up the Municipalities page originally, so I am working my way through the red links. Initially I discovered that part of them were set up as Municipalitiy of X and the other X Municipality, so that caused one whole group of issues. It seems to be always something. I find the Spanish site confusing, as it makes no distinction between the private property of the owner and the village. Most people here (in Mérida) recognize that the village was part of the hacienda and sometimes the village is referred to as the "ex-hacienda" but since the houses themselves are tourist attractions and the villages generally are not, I have taken the position that the Hacienda refers only to what was left to the owner when the ejido was formed. The hacienda may be within a village, but the village is not part of the owner's private property. Thus Hacienda X refers to the house and the village name is what it is, i.e. Hacienda Cacao is the house, Cacao is the village the house is in, if that makes sense. Here is my blank: User:SusunW/Sandbox 3. On the municipalities, I just go to the last one I created and type over it. SusunW (talk) 21:14, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Tarascan state

Actually it is not a proper name, so I think you should move it back.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 12:07, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done even if no reasoning was provided for why it is not. Follow up at Talk:Tarascan state#Tarascan State. Eldizzino (talk) 12:29, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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User:WCCasey: You insisted on "Mexico automatically included the provinces of Alta California and Baja California as territories" with the latter link going to an entity that only existed much later. I made that clear in the edit summary [1] but you re-inserted a nonsense link. If you prefer nonsense about a minor style issue - it is a style issue, then you are doing the readers a big disservice that unexpectedly end up on the state page. Eldizzino (talk) 23:08, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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moved back ( Done) Eldizzino (talk) 21:31, 12 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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@Dormskirk: please see WP:NCCORP and discuss at Bilfinger SE if you need help. Eldizzino (talk) 21:30, 12 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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	Hi - I see that you have moved Bilfinger to Bilfinger SE. Please note that we do not use 'SE', 'inc', 'plc' etc on wikipedia (please see [[WP:NCCORP]]). In any case page moves should not take place without discussion. Thanks for your understanding. [[User:Dormskirk\|Dormskirk]] ([[User talk:Dormskirk\|talk]]) 21:13, 12 July 2015 (UTC)		Hi - I see that you have moved Bilfinger to Bilfinger SE. Please note that we do not use 'SE', 'inc', 'plc' etc on wikipedia (please see [[WP:NCCORP]]). In any case page moves should not take place without discussion. Thanks for your understanding. [[User:Dormskirk\|Dormskirk]] ([[User talk:Dormskirk\|talk]]) 21:13, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
	:{{ping\|Dormskirk}} please see [[WP:NCCORP]]. [[User:Eldizzino\|Eldizzino]] ([[User talk:Eldizzino#top\|talk]]) 21:30, 12 July 2015 (UTC)		:{{ping\|Dormskirk}} please see [[WP:NCCORP]] and discuss at [[Bilfinger SE]] if you need help. [[User:Eldizzino\|Eldizzino]] ([[User talk:Eldizzino#top\|talk]]) 21:30, 12 July 2015 (UTC)