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Did you know... that due to the American Civil War, the Bahamas saw imports increase by a factor of 23, and exports increase by a factor of 29.6?

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– The use of the preposition "in" implies these countries were in the war (as belligerent states) which they were not. Their citizens may have fought in the war and interesting bits of diplomatic relations may have occurred but the country itself was never in the War. Also for consistency with Australia and the American Civil War and United Kingdom and the American Civil War.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 19:48, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what the problem is. In does not imply that these countries were participants to me; it simply means that the article is about the Bahamas in the period of the American Civil War. I oppose Bahamas and the American Civil War &c. as unnecessarily vague. However if others feel there is a problem with the current titles, how about Bahamas during the American Civil War? This is what we do for some other semi- or non-participants including Argentina during World War II, Cuba during World War II, Sweden during World War II and Switzerland during the World Wars. (Others still use in, though, including Portugal in World War II.) — AjaxSmack 01:19, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose "Canada", the territory of Canada was certainly featured in military operations in the American Civil War, so "in the American Civil War" would seem to apply. (ie. the St. Alban's Raid) -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 05:37, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support: 'and the' is clearly a better term as they were not 'in' the war. The alternative proposal of 'during the' made by AjaxSmack is not a good idea as that would suggest the article was about everything that happened in the country during the American Civil War. However the move should not be just to Bahamas but to The Bahamas which is its correct name. Ebonelm (talk) 09:03, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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	*'''Oppose''' "Canada", the territory of Canada was certainly featured in military operations in the American Civil War, so "in the American Civil War" would seem to apply. (ie. the St. Alban's Raid) -- [[Special:Contributions/67.70.32.190\|67.70.32.190]] ([[User talk:67.70.32.190\|talk]]) 05:37, 8 August 2015 (UTC)		*'''Oppose''' "Canada", the territory of Canada was certainly featured in military operations in the American Civil War, so "in the American Civil War" would seem to apply. (ie. the St. Alban's Raid) -- [[Special:Contributions/67.70.32.190\|67.70.32.190]] ([[User talk:67.70.32.190\|talk]]) 05:37, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
			*'''Support''': 'and the' is clearly a better term as they were not 'in' the war. The alternative proposal of 'during the' made by {{u\|AjaxSmack}} is not a good idea as that would suggest the article was about everything that happened in the country during the American Civil War. However the move should not be just to ''Bahamas'' but to '''[[The Bahamas]]''' which is its correct name. [[User:Ebonelm\|Ebonelm]] ([[User talk:Ebonelm\|talk]]) 09:03, 8 August 2015 (UTC)