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::::: I listed the problems. Please refer to those. Serten [[User_talk:Serten|Talk]] 08:49, 28 May 2015 (UTC) |
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===Unsubstantaied Claims=== |
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On reading this article I have noticed several problems in terms of the accuracy of claims or the lack of scientific evidence. |
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Some examples include: |
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* In Genetic engineering it should be noted that herbicide resistance is ONLY one example of articifical genetic engineering. There are other examples (e.g. BT cotton) which have had an overwelming positive impact on the environment. |
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* The incorrect assumption that Organic farming is more sustainable than modern agriculture without considering the impacts of increased need for soil cultivation or the lower production that occurs under organic production--[[User:GILDog|GILDog]] ([[User talk:GILDog|talk]]) 22:35, 14 August 2015 (UTC) |
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== What defines "sufficient context" for people unfamiliar with the subject? == |
== What defines "sufficient context" for people unfamiliar with the subject? == |
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Intensive Farming
The present "Intensive Farming" section should be deleted, as it contains several misleading statements, appears constructed to promote a negative advocacy agenda, and cites no supporting references at all. A section on this topic may be superfluous, as most issues now identified in this section are addressed in other sections. If a section devoted to this topic is restored, it should be unbiased, written so as not to mislead, and documented according to Wikipedia standards. Schafhirt (talk) 16:00, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
Which "deficits" in this article need to be corrected?
@Serten II: In a related discussion, you mentioned that there were "strong deficits" in this article that needed to be corrected. Can you suggest any changes or improvements that can be made here? Jarble (talk) 04:28, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
- The current stub is a mere propaganda for something called "sustainable agriculture", whatever that may be. the article, currently a list of incoherent tags doesnt differentiate between e.g. agriculture and forestry. It lacks any historical dimension - agriculture is and has been among the most important human influence on the globe since it was invented. the article seems to see any impact as being negative and it has no idea of how agriculture actually shaped the rather negative surroundings of prehistoric man to a currently much more friendly and productive globe allowing some billions of human beings to live on this planet with a life expectancy and availability of food never seen before. I doubt it has any value and it might currently be deleted for quality reasons in the current state. Serten II (talk) 08:20, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
- The "Issues by region" shows some of the deficits - it refers to (from a global perspective) non-problems (hedgerow cleaning in the UK etc to phosphate mining in Nauru) and stays in a rather provincial, anglo-american outlook. The topic is much to generic and global, while the actual impacts are local and rather differentiated. There is no reference to actual scientific literature or textbooks on the topic, take Radkau or Skinner. Serten II (talk) 08:29, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
- @Serten II: Some of the global effects of agriculture are discussed in Wikipedia's main article about climate change and agriculture. Jarble (talk) 02:53, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry, how do you adress the concerns about this article? WP is no source per se, and this sort of "climate change and xyz" article has major weaknesses. INsofar I cannot see how to deal with the article here. Serten II (talk) 09:58, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Serten II and Serten: I don't notice any problems with that article. What are the "major weaknesses" in the climate change and agriculture article? Jarble (talk) 21:40, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry, how do you adress the concerns about this article? WP is no source per se, and this sort of "climate change and xyz" article has major weaknesses. INsofar I cannot see how to deal with the article here. Serten II (talk) 09:58, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- I listed the problems. Please refer to those. Serten Talk 08:49, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
Unsubstantaied Claims
On reading this article I have noticed several problems in terms of the accuracy of claims or the lack of scientific evidence. Some examples include:
- In Genetic engineering it should be noted that herbicide resistance is ONLY one example of articifical genetic engineering. There are other examples (e.g. BT cotton) which have had an overwelming positive impact on the environment.
- The incorrect assumption that Organic farming is more sustainable than modern agriculture without considering the impacts of increased need for soil cultivation or the lower production that occurs under organic production--GILDog (talk) 22:35, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
What defines "sufficient context" for people unfamiliar with the subject?
Is there a certain required amount of background information that would put the page into context for people unfamiliar with the subject and it's issues? How can this issue be resolved?
Emmaannjo (talk) 04:28, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Emmaannjo: Several cleanup templates were added to this article by User:Serten II. See the discussion above for Serten II's objections to this article. Jarble (talk) 06:18, 27 April 2015 (UTC)