Talk:Windham, New Hampshire

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History

Almost every town website or town's historical society - or at least towns of this size - has a standard section that describes the town's history in a nutshell. Perhaps someone could add the standard town history in the history section? Midtempo-abg (talk) 15:31, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

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Affluence

Someone removed the term "affluent" from the lede of this article. An IP restored it. I reverted it again, asking the IP to gain consensus before replacing it. Again, the IP put it back, this time with a totally nonsensical edit summary claiming the term in question is an objective adjective, and additionally arguing that the fact that the term had been there a while somehow means it should be there. Well, need I remind editors that endurance is no test of truth? Frequently, it simply means no one is paying attention. I await the IP's cited objective definition of affluence. Thanks. John from Idegon (talk) 21:59, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

I just came here and was surprised to see "affluent" removed, as it had always been there and is so obviously merited by anyone who knows the town. I am quite surprised it was removed. If you take a look at this sore "John" guy above, he seems to be some totally foreign, bored Idaho person who like to come here and pretend to know about NH communities. I hope someone ties together the basic census data that will persuade this idiot to get off our page. 2600:1000:B116:1679:94DC:5C4B:7A07:5642 (talk) 23:09, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

This page does not belong to the locals in this town, in no sense is it "your page". Personal attacks are not appropriate. And ILIKEIT arguments are not persuasive. You do not have any consensus for the inclusion of the subjective adjective "affluent" in the lede. FYI, no amount of demographic information, no matter how well referenced, can "prove" the factuality of a subjective term that has no precise definition. What makes a community affluent? High median income? How high? High median home value? How high? Obviously, you can't answer these questions with anything but your opinion. That is why we don't use terms like that. It isn't to say the community is somehow a lesser place. If what affluence is comes down to the readers opinion, why not just let them decide from the factual information provided? John from Idegon (talk) 06:17, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Saw this and couldn't help but respond to this guy's baseless, nonsensical argument that Wikipedia articles are essentially forbidden from using adjectives that don't necessarily have a quantifying values in their OED definitions. Someone needs to get "affluent" back immediately, with properly referenced census info, to persuade this ignorant foreigner that the qualifier is justified both on the grounds of subjective reputation and objective median income stats. In fact I believe the town was the richest in the state a few years back (now Exeter).

From Somalia: "In antiquity, Somalia was an important commercial centre." How important? How high? So what do you think John, should we go an rewrite every single Wikipedia article because you might not agree with a majority census opinion extracted from reputable sources? (Kendrick and Casson in the former). Just give it up - the claim you are making is so far-fetched and absurd I am shocked someone has the energy to attempt intent perversion of an otherwise factually illuminating adjective (maybe not so obvious to some foreigner Pacific NW person who presumably hasn't even ever been to New England.) Do you know a thing about Windham, John? Have you even ever been here?

From Charleston, SC: "Known for its rich history, well-preserved architecture, distinguished restaurants, and mannerly people, Charleston has received a large number of accolades" I supposed you are likewise offended by the "mannerly people" of Charleston, SC - a statement so subjective compared to Windham's evident affluence it is shocking you even have the audacity to persist in such a moribund and pointless argument? Looks like you will need to go criticize their article too - another place you have likely never even gained any first hand knowledge of.

I'll likely regret directing your attention to our friends in Weston, MA, the article lede of which uses your despised "affluent" not once but twice, again which is verified by objective data in the same way against which you have made an illogical blanket criticism above.

I suggest you quickly end this pointless campaign of yours to question basic, factual descriptors and learn for yourself, in fact, a thing or two about New England the people of which are the reason you have a free country to live in today. Alternatively, you will have quite a large job of policing your antics on all the thousands of other uses of appropriate "subjective" descriptors on Wikipedia, only a few of which I easily aggregated above for your education. 216.66.104.3 (talk) 10:17, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

OTHERCRAPEXISTS is not a valid argument. John from Idegon (talk) 13:13, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

FYI, we don't extrapolate anything here. This is an encyclopedia, by definition a tertiary source. Everything here must be verifiable to a reliable, previously published source. Perhaps if you would have taken the time to look for newspaper or magazine articles that support the use of affluent to describe this community instead of searching for other articles on Wikipedia that need attention you'd at least have an argument. Content of Wikipedia articles is determined by the consensus of the editors. Right now, there are only two editors that are interested; me and you. You have not made any argument to persuade me. So, there is still no consensus to use the term. You must have consensus to include disputed content. You don't. Consequently, I have requested protection for this article due to an IP editor editing against consensus. John from Idegon (talk) 13:48, 6 September 2015 (UTC)