Talk:Coinye

Domain Vs. Webhost

As an FYI, Coinye has moved to an Indian domain name, but this is unrelated to the actual hosting location. Per [1], hosting is still in the USA. The cited article states this as well. I can understand how most people would get that confused, so I'm just explaining it further here. This might help protect them from domain name seizure, but until they move their hosting elsewhere they are still under US jurisdiction. 192.251.134.5 (talk) 18:32, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

I have taken the reference to India out since it might be misleading. Breadblade (talk) 00:45, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Symbol

Isn't Coinye's symbol COYE? 50.72.74.88 (talk) 06:27, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Nothing is official... most of this stuff is more self-proclaimed, so to speak. Some call it COYE, some COY. Very different ones have been suggested by people who believe it would avoid the whole copyright issue. --Burt777 (talk) 07:08, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 January 2014

please correct this article as it should be .. instead of lying and removing all the previous edits that where made !! If you would have read the original thread on the bitcoin forum this would not have been needed. All you have been doing the last couple of days is lying to the public !!!!

On January 15, 2014, the coin was taken by the community and a new website was created www.coinyetheco.in. The website states : "Contrary to popular media opinion, we are not dead

We are working hard to bring you some exciting new additions! Is Kanye involved? Absolutely not! We would like to make it clear that we are entirely independent of the man, and there should be no confusion as to the intent or origin of this project. The name "Coinye" is intended solely as parody, not an indication or implication of endorsement or involvement."

Niklamat (talk) 18:58, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure why this exact paragraph keeps getting shoehorned in here without any edits. The sourcing is somewhat better than before, but the tone of this still reads like an advertisement. The stuff about exciting new additions isn't yet verifiable and the pseudo-legal language about Kanye doesn't belong here, but it could be relevant that the network is still there, and that some services still exist (or at least, haven't yet been shut down). Breadblade (talk) 19:22, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

You guys need to get your facts before removing posts. Whatever has been written has been verified by multiple media systems.

Edit the page accordingly and stop lying to the public. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Niklamat (talk • contribs) 19:30, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

What are the exciting new changes? These are claims without substance. It's better to write about the exciting changes when they happen and are covered by secondary sources than to repeat verbatim a promotional pitch. Compare this to the relative abundance of sources detailing the "death" of this currency and anyone can see that the above-suggested edit is giving the reboot attempt WP:UNDUE weight. Breadblade (talk) 19:46, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not requested a specific change.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 19:53, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

References

Project is still alive

According to an interview (frontpage.fok.nl/nieuws/634392/1/1/500/interview-met-coinye-initiatiefnemers.html) with a non-technical contributor behind the currency, the project has not been abandoned after the cease and desist order. This effectively makes the very first paragraph of the article a false statement.

We should correct this to make the article as accurate as possible.

QWxx01 (talk) 13:33, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

It was abandoned by the original developers, which is what is stated in the first paragraph. Not sure about that source, as I can't read that language. Breadblade (talk) 16:57, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

In that case the article should be updated to reflect it has been taken over by new developers. QWxx01 (talk) 11:53, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

I have further updated the article to reflect the fact that the network is still operational and that users have said they will continue development. This is verifiable information, but it will be up to future sources to determine how successful these efforts will be. Breadblade (talk) 21:46, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Coinye is clearly still alive and this wiki needs major editing. Two websites host Coinye information now and . Furthermore, there is an active subreddit where users talk about Coinye, think of ideas, and can even send Coinye to each other in comments via a "tipping bot", /u/coinyetipper. Even further, a Twitter tipper bot was programmed that allows users to "tip" Coinye to other people on Twitter. See: @TipperCoinye . In addition to the Twitter tipper bot, a Youtube tipper bot even exists where users can send Coinye to users who submitted videos or to users commenting on a video. An altcoin and mining database cites Coinye as having 8 current operating mining pools where miners are working to keep the blockchain of Coinye going. Miners can also see how profitable it is to mine on a website, CoinTweak, that recognizes Coinye as an alive and profitable coin . Additionally, an official Facebook page for Coinye has reached 250 "likes" in 2 days since it was created. There are many exchanges that one can swap Coinye for other cryptocurrencies even, a feat that would not be possible if a coin was "dead" .

Please, this is a definitive list of reasons why this wiki is needs severe updating. It seems the only sources that get cited are articles published by journalists who know nothing about cryptocurrencies. This coin has been thriving and nobody on the surface has bothered to take note. Sorry if I sound a little agitated. If this wiki continues to stay dilapidated with outdated truths then it will be clear this is a smear campaign and Coinye will push back even harder.

Cheers! Tedl4avender (talk) 19:02, 28 February 2014 (UTC)Ted Lavender

Feel free to edit the article if you think it's inaccurate and have the sources to back it up, but how is any of that notable? Anyone can make a subreddit, website, twitter, youtube account or a facebook page and publish pretty much whatever they want on it. Information has to come from reliable secondary sources independent of the subject if it's be taken seriously. Threatening to call in meatpuppets to edit the article is a really bad idea, by the way. Breadblade (talk) 20:02, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

What determines if a coin is "alive" or not is if people are using it to pay or tip others, mining it, and exchanging it for other cryptocurrencies. I have given you direct evidence of all 3 with citations. One can visit the @TipperCoinye Twitter profile and watch Coinye change hands from one Twitter user to another yourself. This is the actual mechanics of a cryptocurrency. You won't get much information reading these terribly misinformed and uneducated journalists butcher the technological underpinnings that drive Coinye and allow all of these things to be possible.

Here is one more source that may be the definitive thing that one needs to see Coinye is alive (and something that EVERY journalist should cross-reference before spewing false vomit to an audience that is being misled about cryptocurrencies (which I know can be very difficult to learn. It took me a while to grasp it)--the blockchain explorer. One can see every "block" of transactions that are being mined presently right now as I type. I highly encourage you to acquire an understanding of how this works. At the time of this writing, Coinye is on block 50197. You can see how many people made transactions in this block. You can see that blocks are programmed to be solved roughly every 90 seconds. You can hit 'refresh' after 2 minutes and you will likely see a new block added to this list. THIS is the beating heart of Coinye and every cryptocurrency for that matter. If the chain is getting longer, that means miners are mining it which in turn means they find it profitable to work on which in turn means others find it valuable which means there is a current demand for Coinyes which means IT IS ALIVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. /Frankenstein Tedl4avender (talk) 20:16, 28 February 2014 (UTC)Ted Lavender

This coin is still being mined and the code maintained by a small group of people, as long as people are mining the coin, i dont think it should be classed as dead, even if it was only a joke currency, im going to change the start of the article from "was" into "is"

Being an open source project, there is actually very little that can be done to take it down.Nzoomed (talk) 01:12, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

I am removing the sentence "The coin has been called 'effectively dead' by Ars Technica", which cited this May Ars Technica article. The article said that it may be "effectively dead", with a link to this January Ars Technica article, titled "Coinye is dead, long live Coinye: Kanye West lawsuit prompts disarray", explaining what they mean. In the January article, they quote the website coinyeco.in as saying "COINYE IS DEAD", but gave evidence of ongoing development. The Wikipedia sentence misrepresents the coverage by Ars Technica. Agyle (talk) 02:30, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Has any update at all been made to the code since January? It may be open source, the mining network has shrunk in size by 99% since its peak and nearly every webpage related to the coin has shut down. Even the official site has changed hands three or four times. That said, I can see the problem with the Ars Technica source, but they're not the only ones who have recently referred to Coinye as dead or defunct. Breadblade (talk) 15:25, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Coinye is still alive, perhaps i should update the logo on wikipedia to reflect this?Nzoomed (talk) 20:51, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

References

Non-Notable

Clearly a parody, and non-notable besides. Taco Viva (talk) 01:24, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

@Taco Viva: a number of Cryptocurrency articles have been deleted for non-notability including Saturncoin. If you think there is a good case feel free to put to WP:AfD. I have a feeling the spat with Mr West may make it notable unfortunately. Jonpatterns (talk) 11:40, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Probably passes notability, but the article could maybe use a rewrite if some parts are being given WP:UNDUE emphasis. Most of the coverage of the coin is either unrealized pre-launch hype or discussion of the post-launch legal troubles. Breadblade (talk) 00:57, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

"Probably passes notability" -- How so? It is not my bar to meet non-notability, it is the article's bar to reach notability. And unless it does, it will go away. Taco Viva (talk) 01:40, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

It has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, so bringing it to AfD on notability grounds won't go anywhere. Breadblade (talk) 15:07, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Kanye West Wins Lawsuit Against Coinye

http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/innovation/all-falls-down-kanye-west-kills-coinye-bitcoin-lawsuit-victory-n164866 88.113.110.174 (talk) 21:40, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Proposed merge with David P. McEnery Jr.

not enough significant coverage in independent reliable sources for WP:BLP notability. Can be mentioned on Coinye instead -- 1Wiki8Q5G7FviTHBac3dx8HhdNYwDVstR (talk) 19:16, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Agreed. That article appears non-notable, would probably be subject to deletion in its current state. A redirect here would be appropriate. Breadblade (talk) 14:34, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Agreed Hannasnow (talk) 15:57, 7 September 2015 (UTC)