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::::::::<small>Though it ''is'' "on the desert". [[User:InedibleHulk|InedibleHulk]] [[User_Talk:InedibleHulk|(talk)]] 09:01, [[October 9]], [[2015]] (UTC)</small> |
::::::::<small>Though it ''is'' "on the desert". [[User:InedibleHulk|InedibleHulk]] [[User_Talk:InedibleHulk|(talk)]] 09:01, [[October 9]], [[2015]] (UTC)</small> |
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:::::::::It's interesting that the pastor thinks the people possibly involved in LMN's death will be reading the [[The Daily Courier (Arizona)|newspaper]] rather than watching the television news? [[User:Paul Benjamin Austin|Paul Benjamin Austin]] ([[User talk:Paul Benjamin Austin|talk]]) 09:43, 9 October 2015 (UTC) |
:::::::::It's interesting that the pastor thinks the people possibly involved in LMN's death will be reading the [[The Daily Courier (Arizona)|newspaper]] rather than watching the television news? [[User:Paul Benjamin Austin|Paul Benjamin Austin]] ([[User talk:Paul Benjamin Austin|talk]]) 09:43, 9 October 2015 (UTC) |
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::::::::::It was a different time. Didn't even have VCRs or national cable, let alone YouTube. A five-minute spot over the air lasted exactly five minutes, while a five-paragraph spot in the paper can last for centuries. It's why we only have newspaper sources in the article today. [[User:InedibleHulk|InedibleHulk]] [[User_Talk:InedibleHulk|(talk)]] 09:58, [[October 9]], [[2015]] (UTC) |
::::::::::It was a different time. Didn't even have VCRs or national cable, let alone YouTube. A five-minute spot over the air lasted exactly five minutes (and reached only those in surrounding areas, ''if'' they had their TV on), while a five-paragraph spot in the paper can last for centuries. It's why we only have newspaper sources in the article today. [[User:InedibleHulk|InedibleHulk]] [[User_Talk:InedibleHulk|(talk)]] 09:58, [[October 9]], [[2015]] (UTC) |
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:::::::''The Huffington Post'' didn't even ask me, if it's true that they half-inched it from Wikipedia. '''Sheree Beasley''' and '''Karmein Chan''' may have been murdered in Melbourne but they both have Wikipedia articles because they are famous throughout Australia (although Karmein's should be at '''Murder of...''' as she's only famous for being kidnapped and killed, not as a person in her right). The fact that most of the articles about them come from the same media ownership is just because Rupert Murdoch owns most of our major newspapers. [[User:Paul Benjamin Austin|Paul Benjamin Austin]] ([[User talk:Paul Benjamin Austin|talk]]) 01:57, 9 October 2015 (UTC) |
:::::::''The Huffington Post'' didn't even ask me, if it's true that they half-inched it from Wikipedia. '''Sheree Beasley''' and '''Karmein Chan''' may have been murdered in Melbourne but they both have Wikipedia articles because they are famous throughout Australia (although Karmein's should be at '''Murder of...''' as she's only famous for being kidnapped and killed, not as a person in her right). The fact that most of the articles about them come from the same media ownership is just because Rupert Murdoch owns most of our major newspapers. [[User:Paul Benjamin Austin|Paul Benjamin Austin]] ([[User talk:Paul Benjamin Austin|talk]]) 01:57, 9 October 2015 (UTC) |
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just a heads up
@Winkelvi: @Daniel Case: @Gourami Watcher: @Rich Farmbrough: @BabbaQ: Apart from that Little Miss Nobody was a Somebody. I'm mightily pissed off at people elsewhere online that claim places like Wikipedia and Websleuths shouldn't call her Little Miss as there is an infinitesimal small chance she might not have seen herself as a girl.
(sarcastic) Yeah, lots of little boys have colored hair and painted fingernails and toenails (sarcastic)
Paul Benjamin Austin (talk) 08:50, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
Murder?
@InedibleHulk: Regarding this edit, I agree with you. I have no proof but I am suspicious that this is a case of the tail wagging the dog. I think The Huffington Post called it murder because Wikipedia was calling it murder. - Location (talk) 13:00, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
- Aye, but why Wikipedia was calling it murder, only @Paul Benjamin Austin: knows, and he's apparently on a break. InedibleHulk (talk) 14:11, October 8, 2015 (UTC)
- @InedibleHulk: @Location: I'm on a break mostly but I'll just say that i was going by the online sleuth forums which referred to LMN as a murder victim. It was all i knew. Paul Benjamin Austin (talk) 14:47, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
- Oh right, there you are. Thanks for not bringing that enraged pageant mom from the sticks theory here. InedibleHulk (talk) 16:05, October 8, 2015 (UTC)
- I'm sorry if I've done anything wrong. Paul Benjamin Austin (talk) 16:20, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
- No worries. From here on, just remember to follow the sources and not the hunches. On Wikipedia, anyway. A little wild speculation/thinking outside the box can be useful in solving mysteries. InedibleHulk (talk) 17:06, October 8, 2015 (UTC)
- I don't have a problem with someone creating an article and mentioning it elsewhere, but I find it a bit suspicious that The Line Up/The Huffington Post article came out shortly after the development of this article... particularly since there has been virtually no coverage of the disappearance over the past fifty years. One concern that I have is that the The Line Up/The Huffington Post may have used the Wikipedia article for their write-up [e.g. note the prominence of the "Somewhere, someone..." quote in both articles] and their write-up is now being used to support the WP:PERSISTENCE clause for determining notability. - Location (talk) 17:51, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
- Incidentally, note that Wikipedia's version of the "Somewhere, someone..." quote (i.e. "Somewhere, someone is watching to learn what happened to a little girl left on the desert.") cites this source which actually states: "...but somewhere someone is going to be watching the paper to learn what happened to a little girl left in the desert.". - Location (talk) 17:53, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
- Busted. InedibleHulk (talk) 08:57, October 9, 2015 (UTC)
- Though it is "on the desert". InedibleHulk (talk) 09:01, October 9, 2015 (UTC)
- It's interesting that the pastor thinks the people possibly involved in LMN's death will be reading the newspaper rather than watching the television news? Paul Benjamin Austin (talk) 09:43, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
- It was a different time. Didn't even have VCRs or national cable, let alone YouTube. A five-minute spot over the air lasted exactly five minutes (and reached only those in surrounding areas, if they had their TV on), while a five-paragraph spot in the paper can last for centuries. It's why we only have newspaper sources in the article today. InedibleHulk (talk) 09:58, October 9, 2015 (UTC)
- It's interesting that the pastor thinks the people possibly involved in LMN's death will be reading the newspaper rather than watching the television news? Paul Benjamin Austin (talk) 09:43, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
- The Huffington Post didn't even ask me, if it's true that they half-inched it from Wikipedia. Sheree Beasley and Karmein Chan may have been murdered in Melbourne but they both have Wikipedia articles because they are famous throughout Australia (although Karmein's should be at Murder of... as she's only famous for being kidnapped and killed, not as a person in her right). The fact that most of the articles about them come from the same media ownership is just because Rupert Murdoch owns most of our major newspapers. Paul Benjamin Austin (talk) 01:57, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
- No worries. From here on, just remember to follow the sources and not the hunches. On Wikipedia, anyway. A little wild speculation/thinking outside the box can be useful in solving mysteries. InedibleHulk (talk) 17:06, October 8, 2015 (UTC)
- I'm sorry if I've done anything wrong. Paul Benjamin Austin (talk) 16:20, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
- Oh right, there you are. Thanks for not bringing that enraged pageant mom from the sticks theory here. InedibleHulk (talk) 16:05, October 8, 2015 (UTC)
- @InedibleHulk: @Location: I'm on a break mostly but I'll just say that i was going by the online sleuth forums which referred to LMN as a murder victim. It was all i knew. Paul Benjamin Austin (talk) 14:47, 8 October 2015 (UTC)