Talk:Kalibr (missile family)

Crashed missiles

The Pentagon has not changed their stance on this. Anonynmous official sources are allowed in WP - "Anonymous sources whose material is published by reliable secondary sources, such as Deep Throat in The Washington Post, are acceptable, because Wikipedia's source in this case would be the newspaper, not the anonymous source." And despite their government's denial, local Iranian papers reported the crashes as well. Posting Russia's claim that all missiles hit without the Pentagon's counterclaim is a clear violation of WP:NPOV. Furthermore, taking their "they showed 26 videos of missiles hitting" as proof that their version is correct and the Pentagon's version is wrong requires that you determine whether all of those videos were actually 1) Kalibr missiles, 2) hitting Syria, 3) where they said they did, 4) when they said that they did, and 5) that there were only 26 launched. Pushing this front is clear WP:OR.

We have two claims from two major conflicting powers. It is absurd to think that it's WP:NPOV to only report one of them. -- 31.209.205.90 (talk) 20:29, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

mergefrom Sizzler (missile)

See http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Sizzler_%28missile%29&oldid=136461615

These two articles should be merged. I've since redirected the other article here.

132.205.44.134 22:21, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=a5LkaU0wj714&refer=home# —Preceding unsigned comment added by SaltyBoatr (talk • contribs) 16:04, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Dead link

During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!

• http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Klub.html
  • In Grid fin on 2011-03-22 14:07:21, 404 Not Found
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--JeffGBot (talk) 07:12, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Table

Having spent some hours on this article, it finally dawned on me that the information in the 'Variants' section might be better off in a table! I won't do it now because A) it's twenty-three minutes past midnight where I live and B) it might be better to get some sort of agreement first

RASAM (talk) 22:24, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Support! Something like this? Anir1uph | talk | contrib 00:28, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Yup. Go for it! RASAM (talk) 14:14, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

3M-14/3M-14T should be removed from the list

There is no 3M-14/3M-14T rockets, so this information should be removed. I searched Google for it and Google gives only 43 pages, half of them are links to forums or other search engines. Just try the following link https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=%223M-14T%22+klub&safe=off&start=40

You can also check the russian wikipedia page and this type of rocket is also not listed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.5.10.248 (talk) 12:29, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

3М-14 is base name, in Russian wiki exist for example 3М-14ТЭ, where letter Э mean export modification, letter Т - vertical launching system. In Russian wiki you can find information only about export modifications, information about missiles that Russia created for self are classified and really can't be found anywhere. 89.22.57.142 (talk) 17:25, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

http://russia.tv/video/show/brand_id/5206/episode_id/1236661/video_id/1389544/ full set data 2015 http://vesti7.ru/news?id=48483

According to state television news (broadcast 11,10,2015) . Launch of production later in 2012. In particular this version - the maximum speed of Mach 3, the maximum range of 4,000 km, basing in the air, on land, on water and under water (shows launch of water depth). The missile can make in-flight manёrvo 147 or more (in any direction), the minimum height of 10 meters, an average of 20 - 50 meters (up to 1000), will automatically povtoryaetsya terrain, the rocket can be controlled by in flight.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.119.233.78 (talk) 14:39, 13 October 2015 (UTC)