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Sum Ying Fung

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Non-notable individual. The world's oldest individual by nation hasn't been considered sufficient notable before. The only sources here are WP:ROUTINE obituaries you would find. The problem is that the article alleges (without sources) that those WP:RS are inaccurate without evidence of that allegation. Either, her claim can be debunked by a reliable source and thus the sources here aren't reliable as to these facts and she isn't notable or her claim is valid based on these reliable sources but the only sources here are WP:ROUTINE coverage. Ricky81682 (talk) 10:59, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Controversial I expect but I removed the hints that her claim isn't valid. As noted, there are only the three reliable sources provided that assert her birthdate of 1899 and absent a reliable source debunking it, it should be treated as a WP:FRINGE theory that she actually wasn't born in 1899. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 11:03, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Lakun.patra (talk) 12:38, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Lakun.patra (talk) 12:38, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. Lakun.patra (talk) 12:39, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Gender bias is real and is a problem. 166.171.123.191 (talk) 22:18, 15 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, per nom. There are no policy-based arguments to be made that either the age is, per se notable, nor that this person, who lacks WP:SIGCOV has met the requirements of WP:GNG. Even if they had, WP:NOPAGE counsels that, rather than a stand-alone article, inclusion in a list might be appropriate. Gender bias, raised above, is not a factor here. David in DC (talk) 17:07, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Per nom. Not dying for one century doesn't actually make you notable, it just makes you really old.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 05:14, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP:PERMASTUB, WP:NOPAGE. "At the claimed age" -- don't we know??? EEng (talk) 09:16, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Mrs Fung received some coverage when she became the oldest living person in Canada - detailed biography; short coverage. When she died 11 months later, there was a lot of coverage too. In particular, this detailed biography in Chinese compelled me to think we should have an article on her. Der yck C. 13:39, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Delete''' Per nom. Not dying for one century doesn't actually make you notable, it just makes you really old.[[User:Serialjoepsycho|-Serialjoepsycho-]] ([[User talk:Serialjoepsycho|talk]]) 05:14, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 *'''Delete''' [[WP:PERMASTUB]], [[WP:NOPAGE]]. "At the claimed age" -- don't we know??? [[User:EEng|EEng]] ([[User talk:EEng|talk]]) 09:16, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
+*'''Keep'''. Mrs Fung received some coverage when she ''became'' the oldest living person in Canada - [http://www.canada.com/year+Vancouver+woman+oldest+Canadian/4181011/story.html detailed biography]; [http://thevancouversun.tumblr.com/post/2965444296/when-she-was-born-queen-victoria-ruled-england short coverage]. When she died 11 months later, there was a lot of coverage too. In particular, this [http://www.iask.ca/news/canada/2011/1214/106947.html detailed biography] in Chinese compelled me to think we should have an article on her. [[User:Deryck Chan|Der]][[User talk:Deryck Chan|yck C.]] 13:39, 17 November 2015 (UTC)