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This Month in GLAM: April 2015

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This Month in GLAM: May 2015

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A cup of coffee for you!

Thanks for representing the Wikimedia community in the article in The Hindu. Have you given any other interviews or been featured in any other journalism? If you have, can you share please? Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:37, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

There was another event last year but the reporting had serious errors - ok not ok - (6000 papers! what!) Shyamal (talk) 02:56, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

@Bluerasberry: - apparently there was another piece here - I suppose one of the things that interested them really was the arbcom case associated with IIPM - see this. Shyamal (talk) 15:39, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks I will look this over. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:34, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Newsletter

Thanks Shyamal! Yeah, I figured I'd try to help push the project back onto people's front burner again; we seem to have lost group momentum at the moment. Now I have to figure out how to use the new mass message service; it's a bit more complicated than the old system! :P I like your idea, and I think it would be useful to other projects as well. Perhaps we can request something like this from the programmers? Too bad Snowman isn't still around; this would have been right up his alley! MeegsC (talk) 19:14, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

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This Month in GLAM: June 2015

This Month in GLAM – Volume V, Issue VI, June 2015 Headlines Argentina report: Wikimedia Argentina Czech Republic report: Memorandum of Cooperation between the National Heritage Institute and the Wikimedia Czech Republic Finland report: Capturing public art with drones France report: Surfing on GLAMs' agenda Germany report: Open GLAM - How to create true participation Italy report: From Italian Parliament to libraries and Company Museums. And a Training Day too! Macedonia report: Wikipedian in residence Netherlands report: Historical images of Dutch water works Sweden report: Maritime Sweden UK report: Royal Society of Chemistry; Thinktank; Oxford USA report: Wikidata for Mappers Special story: Europeana 1914-1918 Open Access report: Wikipedia is an amplifier of open access; 20,000 media files uploaded from PubMed Central Wikidata report: Wikidata this month Wikimania report: GLAM presentations at Wikimania Calendar: July's GLAM events Read this edition in full • Single-page To assist with preparing the newsletter, please visit the newsroom. Past editions may be viewed here.

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Introducing the new WikiProject Evolutionary biology!

Greetings!

I am happy to introduce you to the new WikiProject Evolutionary biology! The newly designed WikiProject features automatically updated work lists, article quality class predictions, and a feed that tracks discussions on the 663 talk pages tagged by the WikiProject. Our hope is that these new tools will help you as a Wikipedia editor interested in evolutionary biology.

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Hope to see you join! Harej (talk) 21:06, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

hi

iam in class Subramanian Sankar 05:53, 1 August 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Subbush (talk • contribs)

thanks for Wikipedia workshop

Hi thanks for the opportunity to attend Wikipedia workshop & learn about how to contribute to Wikipedia - Jn Prasad — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jnprasad2001 (talk • contribs) 05:57, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

editing bird pages

I think I got the Grey-breasted Prinia to a decent shape. I am just beginning to understand how to get other material and if I get any on this one, I will keep adding. For now there is little I could find at the usual sources other than listings in various check lists. Let me know your comments when you can.

Next I thought I will work on Velvet-fronted Nuthatch from your pending list, a bird we have enjoyed every time we have sighted it! btw, why is there a smiley icon next to few of the names (ex Sarus Crane) ? Well edited?

Also, what was the number next to the birds? You said it was how many times it was searched... was that per day? and it had something to do with bird spot...right?

thanks. Nanda ramesh (talk) 06:44, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

@Nanda ramesh: - several things to search for - Pittie's bibliography Internet Archive Biodiversity Heritage Library Google Scholar. Yes, that list is a personal target list, the smiley next to Sarus Crane shows that I am happy with it. The list was created by taking all the reports from BirdSpot and then sorting them from the most often reported to the least often reported. The number in brackets was the number of reports from across the country. So it is roughly in order of common to rare. Of course, one has to break that order to improve some of the more enigmatic species (like the Jerdon's courser). Shyamal (talk) 07:10, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Find link

Hello there! Following some links I stumbled upon your User:Shyamal/rambles (which I enjoyed reading). I am creating internal links of the articles listed there via the User:Edward/Find link tool. You may find the tool occasionally useful (guessing you don't already know of it). Best regards. Solomon7968 17:34, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Glad you enjoyed my rambles! Did check the link tool, I was managing with <"keyword" site:en.wikipedia.org> on Google. Shyamal (talk) 04:23, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Note

hi i have started :-) cleaning up articles and adding material wherever required. since my interests are diverse hopefully i will post my original article with references and content soon best regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Subbush (talk • contribs) 17:34, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

@Subbush: - will watch now and then. You can sign talk page comments with four tildes at the end. Shyamal (talk) 03:01, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

thanks. will sign my posts henceforth Subbush (talk) 06:07, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Zotero

Hi I installed the Zotero plugin (thanks for the tip!) and now it does shows a drag and drop icon in the top right corner of my Firefox browser. But I am not sure how to do next. Some time ago I added a bunch of reviews in the article Fishes of the World. I can't figure out how to convert those into the citation template format using Zotero. Can you give a demo wiki edit there? I am watching the article. Best. Solomon7968 22:20, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

If you go to any of the journal cites with what are called COinS enabled - you will see a book icon showing on the URL bar. Click on it and the citation gets imported into the Zotero database. You can also click on the book link on the browser toolbar for any website. If you click the Z on the toolbar the Zotero pane should open and you can edit and keep notes on your specific references. When you are done with your research you can select the bibliographic items in the Zotero pane (multi select with control key in Windows). You can then right click and export - choose Wikipedia citation template and you will get a file with all the bibliographic entries filled into citation templates. Let me know if this is not clear and I can put in snapshots on some other site. Commons rules will not allow them. Shyamal (talk) 02:49, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

I have hashed together a quick presentation on Zotero usage - http://www.slideshare.net/muscicapa/firefox-zotero-wikipedia-and-you - I normally do this live in the browser for Wikipedia workshops and so had never considered making this set of instructions, but here you go. Let me know if more explanations are needed and whether you managed to use the trick. It should work on Ubuntu just as given here - I am not sure about how things work on Apple Macs, for one I do not know about the right click. Shyamal (talk) 03:51, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Paradise Flycatcher

Hi Shyamal! Today the page about Asian Paradise Flycatcher was moved to Indian Paradise Flycatcher. Reason given is an article published in The Hindu, an Indian newspaper, i.e. not a scientific source. Can you help to undo this move? Unless of course this issue has been discussed and agreed upon. Cheers, BhagyaMani (talk) 13:40, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Just a change in the treatment used by ebird I believe. Needs to be discussed of course, have not seen the supporting papers but phylogenetic splits like this are quite fashionable now. Shyamal (talk) 14:53, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Glad you reacted so promptly!! The article in The Hindu is about the Indian subspecies, but the specific common name has not changed. Cheers, BhagyaMani (talk) 18:14, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

BhagyaMani and Shyamal you are partly correct. But as you say, Indian Paradise Flycatcher is not a subspecies of Asian Paradise Flycatcher. I was able to gather more information on this.

birds.cornell.edu and ebird.org (based on Fabre et al. (2012) and Andersen et al. (2015)) both say that Asian Paradise Flycatcher is divided into three different species and one among them is Indian Paradise Flycatcher. Which means, with the new taxonomic update in place, now there no species named Asian Paradise Flycatcher. Hence, we will have to divide the Asian Paradise Flycatcher page into three different new pages like:

• Amur Paradise-Flycatcher (Terpsiphone incei)
• Blyth’s Paradise-Flycatcher (Terpsiphone affinis)
• Indian Paradise-Flycatcher (Terpsiphone paradisi)

And now the taxonomic name "Terpsiphone paradisi" which was referring to Asian Paradise Flycatcher will here after refer to Indian paradise Flycatcher.

We can discuss more if necessary.

References:

http://www.birds.cornell.edu/clementschecklist/2015-updates-corrections/

http://ebird.org/content/india/news/2015-taxonomy-indian-birds/ Jophine (talk)

Technically every taxonomist has the right to treat taxa as they like. What we have here is an elevation of some subspecies to the rank of species. These happen quite constantly and are usually based on a molecular phylogenetic study - that looks at the distances and uses a sufficiently large and geographically well dispersed set of samples apart from distribution patterns, isolation mechanisms such as call, behaviour etc. The list actually cites the peer-reviewed paper that we need to examine before citing it (not a newspaper) - Andersen, M.J., P.A. Hoster, C.E Filardi, and R.G. Moyle. 2015. Phylogeny of the monarch flycatchers reveals extensive paraphyly and novel relationships within a major Australo-Pacific radiation. Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution 67: 336–347. It would be best to wait and watch the update on the IOC list - worldbirdnames.org before proceeding with the change. Shyamal (talk) 15:30, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Best to discuss at WT:BIRD Shyamal (talk) 15:38, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Having seen the paper, it seems to be based on a very incomplete sampling - the clade of South Asian T. paradisi is not surprising but it would ideally be best to wait for more work and use the older comprehensive names with trinomials for now. Shyamal (talk) 16:00, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

I agree with Shyamal to first discuss about moving content. The more so, as only changing the name in article title and introduction section causes more confusion than actually clarifying : other sections of this article are based on Asia-wide distribution of T. paradisi. So yes : lets wait for more publications! BhagyaMani (talk) 16:14, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

BhagyaMani and Shyamal completely agreed. As you say let's wait. Jophine (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:27, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: August 2015

This Month in GLAM – Volume V, Issue VIII, August 2015 Headlines Argentina report: Two edit-a-thons France report: August in Brittany Germany report: Sharing is Caring Mexico report: Pilot program to make freely licensed animation clips Spain report: Museum of African Art "Jiménez-Arellano Alonso"; Wiki Loves Monuments in Spain Sweden report: Odd submarines, new strategy and an old contest UK report: QRpedia AWOL; RSC holds another edit-a-thon Special story: New toolkit on Photo Events documents best practices, strategies and more Open Access report: Wikipedia as an amplyfier; horse face recognition, rhythm perception, fossil rodent teeth Wikidata report: Wikidata this month Calendar: September's GLAM events Read this edition in full • Single-page To assist with preparing the newsletter, please visit the newsroom. Past editions may be viewed here.

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Gergithus

Greetings to you too. Lovely photo.It would appeal to Walt Disney. Have you noticed that the Disney insects usually have four legs? Six Walt not four. Warm regards Notafly (talk) 19:37, 29 September 2015 (UTC) PS I have taken up bird watching again.

Project WIN

Hello,
We are planning a project to improve WikiProject India (English Wikipedia). I'd appreciate if you kindly leave your feedback here --Tito Dutta (talk) 09:58, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

I am afraid I do not get it. The real issue seems to be with editors having a viewpoint based on identifying themselves with a specific group - in this case by being of Indian nationality. Not sure if forming a group would really alter cliquish behaviour. Shyamal (talk) 03:23, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Reversion of edit to Frog (Respiration and circulation)

I don't understand the rationale behind this reversion. "Multilingual dictionary"? My edit was not attempting to define anything. The restored text is long-winded, contains superfluous information (the date of the frog's discovery is not important), and follows poorly from the preceding text. My version was not perfect—that whole section is disjointed and should be rewritten—but I don’t see how it’s worse than the restored one. Larry V (talk | email) 19:21, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

I just looked more closely at the page history. It seems that you were intending to revert some earlier changes that were unrelated to mine. Since those changes had already been undone, I'll assume you accidentally reverted my edit as collateral damage. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Larry V (talk | email) 19:51, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

@Larry V: oops sorry,that was a bad revert on my part. I can only say that I was looking at that specific editor's contributions which were all on a common theme and I missed the fact that it had already been fixed. Shyamal (talk) 02:11, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

FYI

Special:Contributions/103.8.149.83 who claims on User talk:Tachs to be Madhav Gadgil. I am not sure what to make out of it but thought it would be of interest to you. Solomon7968 10:49, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Looks genuine, will ask him to register himself. Shyamal (talk) 02:49, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

You may already have noticed it, but in case you haven't see MadhavDGadgil. It might be wise to advise them of WP:REALNAME. Solomon7968 11:38, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

I think many of us are fine with revealing our identities. Shyamal (talk) 12:17, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Indeed I have registered as MadhavDGadgil as a Wikipedia User, using my real name, which in full is Madhav Dhananjaya Gadgil. I presume I am fairly well known, having a Wikipedia article devoted to me. I appreciate that using the real name may lead to some harassment, but I am not worried, it should be an interesting experience. On the other hand, I hope that using my real name may serve as an encouragement to others with similar interests in nature-friendly and people-oriented development to get involved. I have long been a regular newspaper columnist in Marathi, with an extensive readership and am particularly hoping that more and more people will get involved in Marathi Wikipedia as well. Let us see how it goes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MadhavDGadgil (talk • contribs)

@MadhavDGadgil: Do let me know if you need any help. You have my email too. PS: if you put in four ~ (tilde) marks - the system automatically puts in a signature with a timestamp and discussion threads can be organized with indents produced using colons. Feel free to test the markup in your sandbox. Shyamal (talk) 08:45, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: September 2015

This Month in GLAM – Volume V, Issue IX, September 2015 Headlines Argentina report: Edit-a-thon & editing challenges Belgium report: Wiki Loves Art; Publications; SOIMA 2015: Unlocking Sound and Image Heritage France report: Clever September Germany report: Opening up (with) the Prussians! Italy report: Wiki Loves Monuments 2015 Italian edition and photographic archives Macedonia report: Bringing Wikipedia closer to animal lovers Netherlands report: Who's afraid of Jacob van Ruisdael? Various gifts from Naturalis Biodiversity Center, Leiden Spain report: Wiki Loves Monuments; Wiki Takes Ayora; Glaming Madrid; Wikimedia Connection; Creative Commons Valladolid Film Festival Sweden report: Books, exhibitions, maritime connections and monuments UK report: Wake me up, when September ends... USA report: Edit-a-thon in Seattle Open Access report: Homo naledi; Wikigate; Open Access Week Wikidata report: Wikidata this month Calendar: October's GLAM events Read this edition in full • Single-page To assist with preparing the newsletter, please visit the newsroom. Past editions may be viewed here.

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