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..of not explaining what it actually ''is'', what is actually ''done''. Article is pretty close to empty promotional wording. Instead of claiming 'opportunities to learn and apply proven leadership skills' give examples of how this is done! --[[Special:Contributions/92.202.66.25|92.202.66.25]] ([[User talk:92.202.66.25|talk]]) 14:54, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
..of not explaining what it actually ''is'', what is actually ''done''. Article is pretty close to empty promotional wording. Instead of claiming 'opportunities to learn and apply proven leadership skills' give examples of how this is done! --[[Special:Contributions/92.202.66.25|92.202.66.25]] ([[User talk:92.202.66.25|talk]]) 14:54, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

== Notability ==

Sorry, but that has no business with regard to this topic, which is a major subdivision of a major American youth program. If every small religion-based pseudo-Scouting program is notable (and why would they not be as [[WP:NP|Wikipedia is not paper]] and under no real space constraints?) then this program, which is something of a direct co-ed continuation of the old "High Adventure" Explorer program is most certainly notable and worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia. To say that something is "not notable" and hence unworthy in being in Wikipedia as even a "stub" article is to say that it is of less significance that many "kayfabe" [[World Wrestling Entertainment|WWE]] events or than [[Pokemon|every single Pokemon card]], which is hardly the case here. [[Special:Contributions/2600:1004:B104:DBE:24AE:D3DE:5E77:1B8B|2600:1004:B104:DBE:24AE:D3DE:5E77:1B8B]] ([[User talk:2600:1004:B104:DBE:24AE:D3DE:5E77:1B8B|talk]]) 10:29, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

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YPT

Someone added the following on YPT: "must be re-certified every three years." Can we have a citation for this? I have yet to see anything in writing specifying how often one must retake YPT. I've heard 2 years tossed out. All I ever see is you must have 'current' certification, but no definition (ie years) for that. --Emb021 16:58, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I added the three years: I took the online certification and the certificate shows three years. Darned if I can find a specific reference online (although it passes [Google test]). I'll look for a real reference. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 18:28, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting. I've done the online cert several times and never seen a 3 year experation. My frequent requests for written policy on how often YPT must be done as always been ignored (or unanswered). --Emb021 16:09, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I can't find anything at home. I have a Wood Badge Staff conference tomorrow: I'll check with our DE. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 17:09, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Per Ask Andy there is nothing in writing. I'm going to change it to "per local council policy" until we can come up with something better. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 15:28, 30 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I see that this subject was unresolved here, but was cleaned up in the actual article. According to the [national guidelines], an adult should take YPT within 90 days of becoming a leader, and encouraged to take a refresher course every 24 months thereafter. However, local councils can place date-specific requirements on YPT at their discretion. I'll place the link on the actual article for reference. --CKHamel (talk) 21:24, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

History?

Where did the history portion of this page go? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jfulkerson (talkcontribs)

See the history link on the infobox at the top. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 10:44, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How about a summary history para on just venturing with a main link to the history article? Rlevse 12:00, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Explorer Scouts?

Is this the same as the old Explorer Scouts? --Purpleslog 15:37, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Venturing is a spin-off of Exploring. See the Venturing section in History of the Boy Scouts of America. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 18:40, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I view modern day Venturing as the direct descendant of the old high adventure Exploring posts.Rlevse 20:45, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Canadian Venturers

I edited the canadian section to be more complete, however I did not include anything related to badges. I will add that in soon. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Demonix (talkcontribs) 13:42, 15 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Membership policies

Is there a reason that accurate and verifiable membership requirements keep getting reverted out of this article? Membership is clearly within the focus of the article and these particular requirements are obviously imortant to the organization since the parent group has taken the issue to the Supreme Court to enforce them.207.69.137.10 11:51, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's not that I disagree with the content; I reverted it because it doesn't belong in this part of the article. Additionally, there is already an entire article on the subject elsewhere. Your addition only serves to, IMO, disrupt the article. Justinm1978 14:07, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
At least you have finally recognized that this is a National Council issue; the Venturing Division has never been to court over this or any other issue. Trying to replicate and maintain this over the parent BSA article, the six membership articles and the controversies article simply makes no sense. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 14:21, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

History

I don't think that having a link (in a smaller font) in a navbox on the right, to History of the Boy Scouts of America, is adequate. There really should be a brief summary of the history of Venturing in this article (see WP:SS), with a link (as the "main article") to History of the Boy Scouts of America#Venturing (preceded by Exploring). -- John Broughton (♫♫) 21:15, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Like the Origins section in Boy Scouts of America, Cub Scouting (Boy Scouts of America) and Varsity Scouting (Boy Scouts of America), as recommended by WP:SCOUTMOS? We are working the main BSA article now and then moving along the series. If you ant to get started here, go for it. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 21:24, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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 Fixed --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 12:17, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

National Youth Cabinet

I see that the National Youth President was added to this page recently. Would it be a good idea to expand on this and create an article fot the National Venturing Youth Cabinet?Stnfll (talk) 20:22, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Recommend you start here and see how much it expands. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 02:22, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If anyone were to begin an article on the National Youth Venturing Cabinet they would certainly have the support of the cabinet. Any information needed would gladly be given. -David Frolander 2010-11 Southern Region Venturing President. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.89.42.87 (talk) 03:19, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Age change

Waiting for a source before adding this:

BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA RESOLUTION

WHEREAS, the current age and grade eligibility requirements for participation in the Venturing program is 14 years of age and completion of the eighth grade, and

WHEREAS, the Program Content Committee has recommended that, effective May 1, 2010, the age requirement be changed to 13 years of age and completion of the eighth grade;

NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that Article VII, Section 2, Clause 2 (a) of the BSA Rules and Regulations be, and hereby is, amended to read as follows:

Venturer- Be 13 years of age and have completed the eighth grade, or be 14 years of age or older, and not yet 21 years of age.

---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 14:11, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I found the age change FAQ off the national site here for reference. --CKHamel (talk) 22:06, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I was going to wait until tomorrow to add it. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 22:10, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

nice job

..of not explaining what it actually is, what is actually done. Article is pretty close to empty promotional wording. Instead of claiming 'opportunities to learn and apply proven leadership skills' give examples of how this is done! --92.202.66.25 (talk) 14:54, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Notability

Sorry, but that has no business with regard to this topic, which is a major subdivision of a major American youth program. If every small religion-based pseudo-Scouting program is notable (and why would they not be as Wikipedia is not paper and under no real space constraints?) then this program, which is something of a direct co-ed continuation of the old "High Adventure" Explorer program is most certainly notable and worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia. To say that something is "not notable" and hence unworthy in being in Wikipedia as even a "stub" article is to say that it is of less significance that many "kayfabe" WWE events or than every single Pokemon card, which is hardly the case here. 2600:1004:B104:DBE:24AE:D3DE:5E77:1B8B (talk) 10:29, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]