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	Titusfox has requested that you join them for an afternoon of questing, slaying and looting at Edit Quest, the Wikipedia Based RPG! I Hope to see you there! TF { Contribs } { Edit Quest! } 19:11, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Funny edit conflict

Hi Guy. Funny I was not warned of an edit conflict when I added to a section you already hatted at ANI. Sorry about that. I think I will leave it in place though, as it provides additional info the user is likely not aware of. -- Diannaa (talk) 19:21, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

OK, thanks, Guy (Help!) 19:49, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

User:MBUSHIstory

Hello, Guy. Is User:MBUSHIstory's current user page kosher? It reads to me like a personal attack on two editors, so I'm wondering if it should be blanked. (User talk:MBUSHIstory contains the same message, but I'm guessing that is not as much of an issue?...) Anyway, I'm just looking for an "official" opinion on this. Thanks. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 07:40, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Yes, good point. I have dealt with it. Guy (Help!) 08:48, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Dominic Frisby

Dominic Frisby is the co-host of Money Pit, and I've just spotted that he co-authored bits of Mark Curry-era Catchphrase from the credits (I got up early to watch a repeat of a Fifteen to One grand final and stayed on to watch it after recognizing my old school nurse as one of the contestants). Could you unprotect that article?--Launchballer 06:59, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Try Draft:Dominic Frisby. Guy (Help!) 08:48, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

What a mess that was! I can't say I'm a fan of AfC - my article on Monyaka was ossifying there for many months while I was operating anonymously - but I've reworked the book reviews into continuous prose and added reciprocal links to all articles linked at Special:WhatLinksHere/Dominic Frisby. I'll do a proper search for him in Wikipedia later but how's it looking now?--Launchballer 10:06, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Duggar

I have reverted your revert at the Josh Duggar article for the following reasons: You stated in your edit summary, "Actually, no, there is a difference in character between those who sell cars and those who only sell used cars". I can't even imagine why you, an administrator and editor of over a decade, would think that's a valid reason to add content. We don't add content to BLPs in order to imply an article subject has a particular kind of "character" based on what their profession and/or business is. We don't make judgements about the character of article subjects - especially living article subjects - nor do we try to lead readers to reach such conclusions based on article content. Such a mindset is POV. Certainly, you can see that, right? -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 00:51, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Winkelvi, I am not only an administrator: I am also someone who has, during more than half a century of existence on this planet, visited car dealerships. In the US and in Europe. In both the US and Europe, there are two kinds of car salespeople: those who work in the big dealerships that sell both new and used cars, and those who work in the second tier where only used cars are sold. That is why the term "used-car salesman" exists as a separate entity. Guy (Help!) 00:56, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Well, who hasn't visited a car dealership? I know a few people who have sold used cars. They were people of exemplary character. I've know a few people who sold new cars. They were not of exemplary character. Regardless, who they are character-wise has zero relevance to their profession in regard to this, or any Wikipedia article. Sorry, but your reasoning is WP:OR POV and with that POV you are attempting to add unnecessary content to the article in order to imply the subject of a BLP is of low character. There are just so many things wrong with that entire scenario I can't believe you are even suggesting it to be legitimate. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 00:59, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

So what? The fact remains that "used-car salesman" is a specific term of art that is widely understood. See Automobile salesperson: "Salesmen are employed by new car dealerships or used car dealerships". Two separate categories of dealership, understood as such by, as far as I can make out, the world and his dog. Guy (Help!) 01:23, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

"Widely understood" is POV, not encyclopedic, and has no business being added to a BLP for the reasons you stated. And you know it. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 01:50, 27 December 2015 (UTC)