Talk:Dedovshchina

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Hi, here is a my proposal for expansion, this is for some Russian who is much older than me. When exactly this phenomenon started to surface, I mean became known enough to turn off prospective soldiers from army(by the time I started to watch anything besides cartoons it was all around). Then the article can mention the resulting problems with drafting process and current press coverage. It all leads to the recent trends in drafting legislation.Gnomz007 8 July 2005 04:55 (UTC)

This thing will not grow in many years, the Internet is full of scandalous stories of how one conscript was hazed, which can not be used as a solid source, no serious documenting. No nothing.–Gnomz⁰⁰⁷(?)

Whoops wrong Internet [1] [2] [3] –Gnomz⁰⁰⁷(?) 20:10, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

State Department says it is in Belarus too [4]–Gnomz⁰⁰⁷(?) 22:27, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Country Reports on Human Rights Practices : Russia - 2004 –Gnomz⁰⁰⁷(?) 22:30, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

There's a similar phenomenon in Poland as well, though not as widely found (fortunately), called fala (the wave). I wonder whether this article should be expanded and internationalized, or rather the Polish fala merits its own article. Anyone? //Halibutt 08:54, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Organized?

"While oppression by older conscripts has probably always taken place in the army, after that date it become organized and with its own rules and ranks."

I think you should also tell us who "organized" it ;-)

Pronunciation

Can we add something in on pronunciation, as per this? 86.136.92.2 11:23, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Is there any movie portraying dedovshchina?

Is there any movie, like a Russian equivalent of "Full Metal Jacket", in which non-Russians can see what dedovshchina is like?

Perhaps you better need some non-fiction movies ("journalist investigations"). As of fiction, you can find episodical speckles of it in such movies as DMB, Stormgates, Nineth Company.... From what I can guess, movie concentrated on dedovschina wouldn't bring its creators much money. ellol 14:19, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Y There's a section on this already. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.72.233.80 (talk • contribs)

Introduction

Introduction to this article currently contains only 75 (seventy-five) words in the same first sentence. There's two possible explanations of this phenomenon:

• the article is mostly edited by retards and drug users
• some people want the article on such a painful and important topic to be UNREADABLE

Rewriting needed ASAP. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.72.233.80 (talk • contribs)

In other countries

In the Turkish Military and in the amred forces of francophone countries, especially in French-speaking Sub-Saharan African countries and Haiti there are similar rituals too.--Gregor Straßler (talk) 14:35, 14 January 2016 (UTC)