Talk:List of Casualty characters

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I've merged Fin.

Would these articles benefit from a split? Steve 03:26, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

In the list I've made no distinction between current cast and original cast members. --Melaen 00:27, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

I wrote an article about Megan Roach which I think can be added to this page.

Wouldn't Harry be the fouth longest serving cast member. He joined in 2002, but Comfort has been in the series since 2001. Colmc 14:57, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Harry would indeed by the fourth longest serving character. (StudentSteve 03:41, 15 March 2006 (UTC))

Split

I think this article should be split - does anybody have any reasons for not splitting it? _{talk to} JD ^{wants e-mail} 19:18, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Beacuse the list as it stood was no longer relevant, I replaced it with the full cast and characters list from the main article and linked the individual articles that existed. --Jackyd101 01:28, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Spoilers

Shouldn't the list of departing characters also be included in current charcters, so that the spoiler cannot be worked-out, by process of illimination?

Rob Del Monte 20:54, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Harry Harper

Does a temporary absence count as a departure from the series? Harry is listed under departed and returning, even though he hasn't left yet. Isn't this a bit odd?? Mdcollins1984 23:03, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Is harry returning because he is no longer on the official site and i cant find any indication that he will be returning anywhere. Calcon18 14:16, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

The Right Honourable

Not every Member of Parliament is The Right Honourable - only those who are appointed to the Privy Council, which means (usually) Cabinet ministers and other senior figures. It is not unusual for people unfamiliar with terminology to make the mistake, as someone in Casualty did, but that's them in the series making a mistake, not an indication that he has actually been appointed. Sam Blacketer 12:46, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Charlie's Job

Charlie is a clinical Manager aswell as a charge nurse it is listied as this on the website why do people keep changing this

I have searched the NHS pages and the pages about nursing in the UK and i cant find any record that there is a post called clinical manager, the only ones are Clinical nurse manager (tess's job) and ward manager.

Charlie is not a nurse practioner, he is a clinical nurse specialist, which is slightly different from being a nurse practioner, it is not possible to be both.

Charlie has not held the position of Clinical Nurse Manager since the end of Series 18, when he went on a six month sabbatical to Canada and handed the reins over to Tess Bateman. When he returned in Series 19, he stated that he wanted to take on a job with fewer responsibilities and a reduced workload so accepted a downgrade to the position of Senior Charge Nurse and Emergency Nurse Practitioner, while Tess remained Clinical Nurse Manager. This has been made clear several times in the programme itself, but has been confused by the official web site, which still erroneously lists his position as Clinical Nurse Manager, and the fact that the name tag on his uniform until the end of Series 21 still identified him as Clinical Nurse Specialist, a position he only held during Series 16. --Whiggles1 (talk) 23:05, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

References

Any idea if the Marilyn and Peter Roscoe details are actually true, as I can't find any source, and no mention on Holby.tv and BBC websites? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamiow (talk • contribs) 16:23, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

The Peter Roscoe details certainly appear to have been untrue, but Marilyn hasn't actually appeared in the show since Episode 14 of the current series, which makes me wonder if we'll ever see her again. Either way, I think that she can now be considered a recurring guest character at most, and therefore probably shouldn't be in the main cast list. (The BBC web site certainly doesn't include her among the regulars.) --Whiggles1 13:34, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Alex Trueman

Should Alex Trueman really be on this list? I see no indication that he is a regular character, just a recurring guest in the same manner as characters like Louis Fairhead or Abby and her daughter, who have never been on this list. --Whiggles1 15:28, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

He shouldn't be on the list, as he isn't listed on BBC's website. Also, please add talk comments at the end of the page. Adamiow (talk) 18:01, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Curiosity

As a matter of curiosity, the BBC website's (at www.bbc.co.uk/casualty) character profiles give Jay's full first name as Jamshid and Polly's as Pauline. Is it worth putting either of these in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.48.236 (talk) 11:42, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Heather Whitefield

I'm a bit unsure about Heather being added as a former character. While yes, she was only in two episodes, she was introduced as a main character (featured in the opening titles etc.) and has a profile on the BBC Casualty website. I think perhaps it would be best if she was included in the list as technically, from the BBC's point of view, she was a main character, on par with the rest of the regulars. Skarloey (talk) 19:23, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

The Linda Andrews character

Can anyone in the know explain how/why the new(-ish) Linda character suddenly came to be running the department on 11th June 2011, having joined the cast only about 5 minutes previously? Does this actually happen in the NHS? Lazyzee (talk) 15:27, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

(Really, Really Late Comment) This is not a forum. Also, Casualty is a TV Show, not real life. MayhemMario 19:39, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Jim Brodie's and Woody Joyner's last appearance

Jim Brodie did not last appear on 1 January 2005, he last appeared in the Holby City half of Casualty@Holby City, which was on 28 December 2004. Jim's last appearance should say 26 December 2004. The same for Paul 'Woody' Joyner. He did not last appear on 17 December 2005, he last appeared in the Holby City half of Casualty@Holby City, which was on 27 December 2005. Woody's last appearance should say 24 December 2005. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boushenheiser (talk • contribs) 16:33, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing this out, I've now amended it. :-) Skarloey (talk) 21:21, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Duration

User:Percy2345 has added 2008 next to Nick Jordan's first appearance date several times, which I have reverted as 1998 is listed as his first appearance date. However, this has been added again and duration put in instead of first appearance also. I have warned the user, as I believe it to be vandalism, but also asked them to pop over to discuss their view, but to get a consensus and prevent an edit ware, are there any other views on this? Thanks. Adamiow (talk) 00:21, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

I prefer the "First Appearance" column, it's neater than having various appearances, and easier to sort. The "duration" details are better suited in the Characters of Casualty article, in the character infoboxes, to save on clutter within the list, which should be as clean and easy to read as possible. Skarloey (talk) 00:53, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm in agreement with Skarloey. As a possible compromise, we could add in an explanatory footnote with the date Nick properly became a main character, which leaves the sort function in tact and keeps things streamlined in the tables. Apart from Linda though, I can't think of any other characters that appeared on a guest/recurring basis before becoming a main character later, and if it turns out there more than a handful of them, this hypothetical Notes section could quickly become quite messy. Frickative 10:47, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your views. Much appreciated. Adamiow (talk) 11:31, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

I agree with them aswell, we do not want unnecessary clutter and first appearance is just that.. It shouldn't really matter what the actors contract was at the time either. So you were right to preserve the old format IMO.Rain the 1 04:04, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

New table styling

Not overly keen with the replacement of "First appearance" and "Last appearance" with a new singular "Duration" column, if I'm honest, as it no longer allows for greater sorting possibilities and offers less information than previously. I do prefer the layout of the tables as they now are, however, with a full page width. Would there be any way of using "First" and "Last" columns, but including the date in a DD/MM/YY format, rather than "1 January 2012" format etc., which would help save space? (and would also look neater) Skarloey (talk) 21:38, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Titles

EDiting yesterday by Matthew3006 (talk | contribs) Do we want this?
I don't for one.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 10:16, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

I agree - it's unnecessary clutter, in my opinion. The titles are implied by the characters' roles. I'm in the process of reverting the edit. Skarloey (talk) 12:30, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Skarloey! I have just returned and have seen your revisions.
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | — 18:45, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Citations being used to list previous in-universe job roles

I am concerned that the reference section is being abused. For some reason it is being used as a hoarding area for listing previous job titles for each character. You cannot do this without actually providing a source, essentially the reference section is an absolute joke because it contains original research. Sort it - or I remove the lot in one weeks time.Rain the 1 11:34, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Fully agree - vote to remove it all. Adamiow (talk) 13:38, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Completely disagree. There is no problem using footnotes to provide additional information. And you really need to read up on what constitutes original research. This is certainly not it (to quote, "all material added to articles must be attributable to a reliable published source, even if not actually attributed"). I think you may be misunderstanding the information that is being provided. These are posts previously held by the characters during their on-screen time, not posts in their back-stories which have not actually been shown on screen (as a long-running show, characters have frequently changed jobs or been promoted). As a TV programme, Casualty is media in itself and therefore a reference in its own right. If these characters previously held the posts listed during their time on the show then the show is the reference, just as their current posts are referenced purely from within the show. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:31, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

As the user who initiated the use of footnotes for previous roles in both this article and the equivalent Holby City article, I did so because it is much more tidy than including all of the information in the tables themselves, and thus helps with brevity. As Necrothesp has said, the show itself *is* a reference. Various roles are demonstrable on screen or revealed to the viewer through dialogue. To try and find a reference for every single job title would be a nigh-on impossible task (particularly as not every episode of the show is available to view online, so trying to backdate the references would be a rather futile task). I am not quite sure why you have suddenly taken issue with it now, when it is a system which has been in place quite happily for a number of years. And as for your initial comment, Raintheone, might I suggest that you tone it down a bit? Wikipedia is a community of contributors, not your own personal fiefdom. Skarloey (talk) 21:56, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Skarloey, sure I can be slightly to the point... but I actually listen to others and collaborate well with others. So there was little need to try and level at me on a personal level in your closing statement. I'm cool, your cool, lets be cool together. I am delighted to receive long replies as I sometimes think no one else cares. I source everything aside from the odd storyline section. As do many other editors. So I acknowledge that the show itself acts as a source. I just think you have to be careful with certain things. I could add in that Zoe was a porter. No one else would remove it because it is in the footnotes, so it must be true. Only a viewers could really remove it. Whereas anyone patrolling can remove something unsourced from a sound fully sourced article and avoid any factual errors. I just think it creates a bad culture of adding whatever you like and not having to source it. The problem with this list is that there are no sources (well 4...) for the masses of of debut and departure dates, job roles, actors and characters. And while I like to use the, and may I add, really defend the using the show as a source. But within reason. So if I was trying to make one improvement it was removing clutter and some of the unsourced information. That is a starting point. Then we can focus on finding sources for the rest, which I view as ideal information for a character list. Nothing is impossible to source either. And if I only just noticed something that could be improved. We can talk about it surely. And if you know me, I like my articles bursting with facts and sources. =]Rain the 1 23:49, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 May 2015

Copypaste of multiple sections removed 151.228.203.101 (talk) 23:16, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

 Not done As it clearly states in the instructions to submit an edit request:-
"Only copy the part you're changing. If you copy the entire article into the request, you'll break navigation on the talk page, and another editor may remove your entire request."
This is not a "spot the difference competition" If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 15:23, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 September 2015

Please change:

|- ! scope="row" |Ewart Plimmer | Bernard Gallagher (1986–88)
Uncredited (2015) | Consultant in Emergency Medicine | 6 September 1986 | 29 August 2015

to:

|- ! scope="row" |Ewart Plimmer | Bernard Gallagher (1986–88) | Consultant in Emergency Medicine | 6 September 1986 | 7 October 1988

because the character made his final appearance in 1988. Archive sound from him is heard in the opening credits of an episode in 2015. Thank you. 82.18.242.88 (talk) 20:02, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

He made a cameo appearance in the flashbacks on August 29th, played by an uncredited actor but voiced by Bernard Gallagher, seemingly recorded recently. Skarloey (talk) 20:09, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. JustBerry (talk) 00:24, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 January 2016

Please can you remove Louis Fairhead, Ben harding and Nikki Chishom from the Recurring, change Lilly Choa's role to registrar and Lofty's to senior staff nurse and also remove Hanssen as he has made his apperance. 90.195.127.165 (talk) 22:14, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. --allthefoxes ^(Talk) 22:18, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Louis and Ben haven't appeared since episodes 2 and 4, respectively, and Hanssen is only scheduled for one appearance, which has now been. It was stated in tonight's episode that he got the promotion, Lily is only in her next step in training. Just watch the episodes, how much more proof do you need?