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:::Of course we shouldn't add anything based on appearance. What's the point? I'm wondering if she actually has other ancestry which isn't mentioned in the article or something is missing. Sometimes a lot have Native American which they don't know about. I'm just surprised as she has a very similar look to what some actresses of Filipina/Native American/Portuguese descent have. Obviously we can't add anything unless a reliable source states it. She or somebody should do a family research thing for her on the genealogy site like they did for Armie Hammer!♦ [[User:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#aba67e">''Dr. Blofeld''</span>]] 15:55, 27 November 2015 (UTC) |
:::Of course we shouldn't add anything based on appearance. What's the point? I'm wondering if she actually has other ancestry which isn't mentioned in the article or something is missing. Sometimes a lot have Native American which they don't know about. I'm just surprised as she has a very similar look to what some actresses of Filipina/Native American/Portuguese descent have. Obviously we can't add anything unless a reliable source states it. She or somebody should do a family research thing for her on the genealogy site like they did for Armie Hammer!♦ [[User:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#aba67e">''Dr. Blofeld''</span>]] 15:55, 27 November 2015 (UTC) |
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::::What we have in the article right now is family lore with only Cosgrove's unsupported word on this. She did indirectly reject "Asian" in that twitter message. I am surprised that her family lore does not support "[[Cherokee]]" which seems to be the vastly most common Amerindian ancestry claim for some strange reason. I think we shouldn't put a lot of credence on unsupported primary source info such as this, and I personally think it does not belong, but it seems wiki convention is OK with it as being reliable and in articles. If there were a genealogy study published in a reliable source, that would be useful and interesting to add to the article to explain her somewhat unique appearance. [[User:Geraldo Perez|Geraldo Perez]] ([[User talk:Geraldo Perez|talk]]) 16:21, 27 November 2015 (UTC) |
::::What we have in the article right now is family lore with only Cosgrove's unsupported word on this. She did indirectly reject "Asian" in that twitter message. I am surprised that her family lore does not support "[[Cherokee]]" which seems to be the vastly most common Amerindian ancestry claim for some strange reason. I think we shouldn't put a lot of credence on unsupported primary source info such as this, and I personally think it does not belong, but it seems wiki convention is OK with it as being reliable and in articles. If there were a genealogy study published in a reliable source, that would be useful and interesting to add to the article to explain her somewhat unique appearance. [[User:Geraldo Perez|Geraldo Perez]] ([[User talk:Geraldo Perez|talk]]) 16:21, 27 November 2015 (UTC) |
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I don't know what they're called, but looking at other articles, these aren't used. They are separated, and the year is placed multiple times. Should this be changed? Any rule to this? -- [[User:Jones210|Jones210]] ([[User talk:Jones210|talk]]) 23:49, 6 February 2016 (UTC) |
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Herritage
What's Miranda's herritage. She looks like a mix of Asian and European descent to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.248.237.217 (talk) 04:22, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
How do we know her age? who told us. Wikipedia is probably right, but where is the source? --Andrewrox (talk) 06:51, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
To the first person, she's American. Yes she does look like she may be foreign or have a parent who is but she's not and does not. There are people in this world who favor a race in which they are not.
- The first person asked what her heritage is, not what her nationality is so telling us that she's "American" is completely useless. American is a nationality, not an ethnicity. And what exactly does "she does look like may be foreign or have a parent who is" mean? Do you mean foreign = not white or black lol? No offense, but you need to get an education ASAP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.194.17.115 (talk) 03:30, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
To the second guy, information like that is not hard to come by. Also pretty much any site that mentions her says the same thing so.. I'm pretty sure it's right. If you need some stone cold proof, try reading a past interview she's done or ask Nickelodeon. CN Guy (talk) 20:22, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
The only thing I need to read is the reference that is included in this article supporting any heritage assertion. If someone wants to put ethnicity, race, religion, heritage in the article it must be backed by a reliable source. WP:BLP. Personal evaluations based on how she looks or her name is not sufficient. --NrDg 20:39, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
- I removed mention of her being "of Italian, Welsh, Russian, Armenian and Slavic descent". This doesn't look like a particularly reliable reference to me. It stems for "All Movie Guide", a website I wouldn't use as a reference for anything (for example, in their entry on Harold Pinter - [1], they state that his father was Portuguese-born, which is not correct). The statement itself sounds like the usual laundry bag of ethnicities that fans make up and spread on the internet. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 20:15, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Actually she is a japanese heritage, it was mentioned in an interview and she wants to be thought of as a full american so lets just drop the subject ok. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.7.88.127 (talk) 04:43, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
-Can you source this interview? I'd like to know what her ethnic background Miss Cosgrove really is to end an argument with a friend. Of course she is American and fully American, but she had to have come from somewhere. I'm fully American, but if you ask my heritage I'll tell you I'm Irish. I think that since this is something a lot of people ask about, we should verify it on the Wiki page. --99.141.181.14 (talk) 22:52, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
It says on http://www.nationmaster(dot)com/encyclopedia/Miranda-Cosgrove that she is of Italian, Welsh, Russian, Armenian and Slavic descent. This looks like it may have been taken from an earlier version of this WIkipedia article. I have added it to the article: feel free to delete it. Nascargeek21 (talk) 22:23, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
- (nationmaster(dot)com is a blacklisted site. I have distorted the link for archiving. - SummerPhD (talk) 02:13, 30 January 2015 (UTC))
- the website you listed uses starpulse.com as a source the info. starpulse.com doesn't seem like a reliable source to me so it might be best to find a more reliable source before adding the info. --Edgehead5150 22:39, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
I know I have no source on this, but I'd guess that she is of a Filipino heritage, though I believe someone did state that there is also likely some Italian in there, which I could understand. --90.196.136.176 (talk) 00:06, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- she have a mongoloid + caucasoid feactures.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.114.202.63 (talk) 12:25, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
WHITE. Eurasian-Americans are white. Chantessy 22:00, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Miranda Cosgrove was been featured on Now That's What I Call Music! 30 (U.S. Series)
Miranda Cosgrove's "About You Now" was been featured on Now That's What I Call Music! 30. I do not think believe that Miranda Cosgrove will be on Now That's What I Call Music! 32. Miranda Cosgrove is not being in the Now's. It's the first time Miranda Cosgrove was on Now That's What I Call Music! 30 not the other Now Volumes.
cover song error
A cover of Sheryl Crow's "First Cut Is The Deepest" was posted on Cosgrove's official Youtube channel on July 21, 2013.[9]
Shouldn't that say "Cat Stevens" instead of Sheryl Crow, since Cat Stevens wrote the song? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.157.23.215 (talk) 02:00, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- Done, thanks! -- Irn (talk) 14:38, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Ethnicity
Really only English, Irish and French?? She looks pretty exotic looking to me, especially around the eyes she looks part Asian. I'd have thought more Filipino/Italian/Portuguese/Native American than English or Irish! I mean look at [2], I find it hard to believe she doesn't have some East Asian/Native American in her. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:47, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
- If we could find a reliable source that gives an evaluation from someone considered an expert in the field of deriving ancestry from physical appearance, we could add additional ones beyond the existing ones that are supported by sources that state where her ancestors lived. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:04, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
- I am not convinced we should add something based on appearance, even if the evaluation is from an "expert". With that said, I might change my mind if the source is of high quality. Nymf (talk) 15:39, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
- What's the point of this comment? Do you want to take that part out of the article? You know how Wikipedia works: we need sources. -- Irn (talk) 15:34, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
- Of course we shouldn't add anything based on appearance. What's the point? I'm wondering if she actually has other ancestry which isn't mentioned in the article or something is missing. Sometimes a lot have Native American which they don't know about. I'm just surprised as she has a very similar look to what some actresses of Filipina/Native American/Portuguese descent have. Obviously we can't add anything unless a reliable source states it. She or somebody should do a family research thing for her on the genealogy site like they did for Armie Hammer!♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:55, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
- What we have in the article right now is family lore with only Cosgrove's unsupported word on this. She did indirectly reject "Asian" in that twitter message. I am surprised that her family lore does not support "Cherokee" which seems to be the vastly most common Amerindian ancestry claim for some strange reason. I think we shouldn't put a lot of credence on unsupported primary source info such as this, and I personally think it does not belong, but it seems wiki convention is OK with it as being reliable and in articles. If there were a genealogy study published in a reliable source, that would be useful and interesting to add to the article to explain her somewhat unique appearance. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:21, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
- Of course we shouldn't add anything based on appearance. What's the point? I'm wondering if she actually has other ancestry which isn't mentioned in the article or something is missing. Sometimes a lot have Native American which they don't know about. I'm just surprised as she has a very similar look to what some actresses of Filipina/Native American/Portuguese descent have. Obviously we can't add anything unless a reliable source states it. She or somebody should do a family research thing for her on the genealogy site like they did for Armie Hammer!♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:55, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
Years being bunched up to filmography
I don't know what they're called, but looking at other articles, these aren't used. They are separated, and the year is placed multiple times. Should this be changed? Any rule to this? -- Jones210 (talk) 23:49, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
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