Talk:Opal card

Transfer Fare

The definition of a transfer varies for each mode of transport and it is absent from the OPAL website. Here is what is currently happening:

• Trains: transfers only allowed at the same station or at stations within the "City" designator (CBD stations plus Central and Kings Cross). Up to three transfers (four trips per journey). Transfer is from tap off to tap on, 60min.

• Ferries: no transfers at all, except at Circular Quay. Attempted transfers at other wharves result in a new fare /new journey. Transfer is from tap on to tap on, 60 min except the Manly ferries (130 min)

• Light rail: transfer can occur at the station of tap off plus two additional stations in each direction. Maximum two transfers (three trips per journey). Transfer is from tap off to tap on, 60 min

• Buses: transfers always allowed, regardless of location, up to three (four trips per journey). Transfer is from tap off to tap on, 60 min

Change of mode: transfer always recorded (to your detriment, as you are charged a new fare on the new mode)"end of unsigned contribution from 118.211.200.137"

Reply

If you feel this is warranted, it is suggested you add it. But as has been said before transfer for ferries is from tap off to tap on and from tap on to tap on as for other modes except for the Manly Ferry.

I believe a general statement that a transfer is from tap off to tap on (60 minutes) except for Manly Ferries where it is from tap on to tap on (130 minutes) would suffice rather than repeat it for every mode of transport.

And in the last sentence "transfer always recorded" should read "transfers not allowed"Fleet Lists (talk) 21:14, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

I am editing this as per the suggestions :)

• Trains: transfers only allowed at the same station or at stations within the "City" designator (CBD stations plus Central and Kings Cross). Up to three transfers (four trips per journey).

• Ferries: no transfers at all, except at Circular Quay. Attempted transfers at other wharves result in a new fare /new journey.

• Light rail: transfer can occur at the station of tap off plus two additional stations in each direction. Maximum two transfers (three trips per journey).

• Buses: transfers always allowed, regardless of location, up to three (four trips per journey).

Change of mode: transfers not allowed between different modes of transport (e.g. bus to train)

Duration of transfer: transfer is from tap off to tap on (60 minutes), except for Manly Ferries where it is from tap on to tap on (130 minutes) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.211.200.137 (talk) 00:07, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

As mentioned previously you have the power to make those additions to the page - leaving it here does not achieve much.Fleet Lists (talk) 01:32, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Done thx ;) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.211.200.137 (talk) 06:41, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedy deleted as having no substantive content, because it is currently under construction - I am not too sure how to place an under construction template within the article--Mw12310 (talk) 19:01, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

• I have removed the speedy deletion and associated tags and have left the 'newpage' tag now that the article has content. Feel free to remove 'newpage' when you're ready. Happy editing, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 19:51, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

November 2012

Copy vio & COI

I have reverted an edit by Katekellycomms (talk · contribs) as seen here. First off, it was a large slab of text added to the lead, then I noted it was unreferenced, and finally that it is almost word for word from http://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/opal. Note also that a Kate Kelly is "Media & Public Affairs Officer at Transport for NSW" see LinkedIn, so I AGF but Conflict of interest seems possible. - 220 of ^Borg 07:56, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Image requested

It appears that an employee of Transport for NSW has uploaded some of the stock Opal images to Commons and included them in the article. As they are copyrighted by Transport for NSW, we can't use them and I've nominated them for deletion. However, I don't see why someone in Sydney couldn't take some similar photos and release them under a free licence, now that the card is being trialled in the city (I would, but I'm in Canberra).

Dubious

The statement that the Opal Card will be rolled out on the Main South Line - is this right? the Main South Line has been cut, there are no longer regular commuter services going all the way from Strathfield to Liverpool via Regent's Park, it seems strange that the Opal Card would be rolled out on a line that is no longer used. --PalaceGuard008 (Talk) 10:40, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

COI disclaimer

I'm the creator of opalornot.com, but I trust the referenced SMH article qualifies as a notable & reliable source. Jpatokal (talk) 22:47, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Fares and usage

The "Debate" section was not particularly NPOV, with "obviously", "few customers", "some bloggers", etc. I've rewritten it as the more neutral "Fares", trying to lay out a) what the main characteristics and differences to the MyZone system are, and b) why various people are unhappy about Opal, including cites to reputable sources for all claims. Please fix or add if you think I missed something.

Also, I believe Opal or Not has passed the threshold for notability after being featured in the SMH, ABC, Channel 7 etc, but I have added TfNSW's opinion of the site and their own figures. Jpatokal (talk) 12:42, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

price of card

How much does an empty card cost? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.169.156.249 (talk) 06:55, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Free. Marcnut1996 (talk) 07:50, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

/* Fares */ Split LR fares as sep mode

I split the Bus and Light Rail fares into separate boxes as they are distinct modes. This change was reversed by User:Gareth with comment "undo split of bus & LR - fares are the same and will be calculated across modes from 2019"

As noted there is no transfer benefit until 2019 (if there are not changes to the fare system before then. There is no 8+km zone for LR IT is confusing and suggests you might get a free Bus/LR transfer.

Suggest reverting the split, and if it changes in 2019 things can be combined then. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moa999 (talk • contribs) 03:59, 17 January 2015 (UTC) As the same fares apply to both now I can not see the need to have separate tables included for the two modes. The one table with the heading for both suffices as far as I am concerned.Fleet Lists (talk) 04:06, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Opal Card Technology

It seems like the Opal Card for School students use the MIFARE Ultralight instead of the MiFare DESFire EV1 from what I seen by using NFC Tools on my phone using my brother's School Opal card. Is it possible to add it in to the infobox although there is no publicly available information?