Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pierre Jovanović

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Putting aside the question of the number of Google hits, which is an argument to avoid in deletion discussions, there is consensus that the secondary sources/3rd party sources that are needed to demonstrate that the subject meets Wikipedia's inclusion criteria are lacking. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 21:36, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Pierre Jovanović

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Lack of secondary sources available, there is only 162 results in Google for this BLV, and no article in national press or any exploitable reliable reference to source the bibliography. Dereckson (talk) 14:29, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

• Google Search about Pierre Jovanović: 162 results

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Nordic Dragon 15:39, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. Nordic Dragon 15:39, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

• The argument according to which a "Pierre Jovanović" Google search only gives 162 results is a particularly dishonest one. The accentuated "ć" character is NOT used in France or in French. The same Google search conducted with a plain "c" instead of a "ć" gives 234 000 results. Pierre Jovanovic is a well-known French writer, polemicist and financial analyst. He has published many best-selling books. His French page is regularly attacked because of his dissenting views on politics or on financial matters. - preceding comment added by 82.224.192.226 in Revision as of 12:25, 28 February 2016
  • I noted the inappropriateness of the Google count in AfD. Yet, to answer the accusation of dishonesty, no, there isn't 234 000 results: you have to go to the last page to get the real count, 234 000 is only a rough estimate, the real count drops around 200. It's only 207 for example for "Pierre Jovanovic" with a plain c. The results seem very similar for the two queries by the way. --Dereckson (talk) 13:32, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
• Comment: An equivalent discussion on the French Wikipedia in August 2014 led to deletion: [1]. AllyD (talk) 17:10, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
• Weak delete: The subject continues to be active journalistically (with contributions to the Equality and Reconciliation site: [2]) and does have books translated into languages other than French (though I would want to see independent evidence for best-seller status rather than just the introduction to a website interview). However I am not seeing the reliable 3rd party coverage needed to meet the biographical notability criteria. AllyD (talk) 08:57, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
• Delete : inexistence of focused secondary sources. Then Equality and Reconciliation is not considered as a reliable or notable media. Kumʞum ouatizite ? 17:56, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.