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Article missing? Antonino da Patti

Greetings, FYI at Talk:Antonino da Patti Revision history - the article tab is red linked. Unable to find the article. If article was deleted, should talk go as well? I'm just reporting here as I don't know how to correct. Regards,  JoeHebda (talk)  16:11, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi, JoeHebda, and thanks for picking that up. I'd gone and moved the talk page instead of the article itself, not the first time by any means that I've made that particular dumb mistake (I really wish there was a pop-up warning when you try to do that). It's fixed now. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 16:23, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Il Primo Libro delle Canzoni

AWB applies automatic formatting fixes to an article independently of the specific edit that a user is making — so if it made bad formatting changes of its own while I was in the process of applying the {{uncategorized}} tag, that's a software bug that needs to be addressed by AWB's programmers, and not a personal error on my part. And the "uncategorized" tag has to be there if the article doesn't have any categories on it, so you don't get to dismiss that as a "useless" edit that nobody should have been making at all — there were almost 1,500 articles on the uncategorized articles list yesterday, of which I didn't even manage to get through half so there are still over 800, so one software bug on one article does not require me to forego AWB and manually tag them all as uncategorized one by one. And further, if you're not familiar with how AWB works, there's no way for me to have "seen I screwed up", as you so angrily put it; it does not show you the "after" view of a page after you've applied an edit, but rather moves on to the next page in the batch. So I'm sorry it happened, but none of it represents me screwing up or acting irresponsibly. If there's a bug in AWB's "automated cleanup" programming, that's for AWB's programmers to fix. Bearcat (talk) 16:29, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

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Polli

Hello Justlettersandnumbers, thanks for your kind message. :-) That user has been blocked on it.wiki as well and we worked on his page too. Thanks for remembering me so kindly the policies about pages' chronology, I know them, since I am sysop on it.wiki since 2006. :-)) But this is a different case. I will try to explain it with my English. At the beginning, I published that text in Polli Corporation, but after a while I discovered that Polli Corporation was a different company (even if not notable and a vandalism), so I copied my text in Polli (company), a new page. Please note that it was a new and rewritten page, created from scratch. :) The page Polli Corporation should be deleted, while the other one is totally new, therefore - in this case - it is not correct to keep the chronology of a vandalism, and I am actually the first user who wrote that text. Hope it helps. Cheers. :) --Lucas (talk) 03:11, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Guy ropes

Heyo Justlettersandnumbers and thank you for your comments. I have been away from the process and I am not sure about what happens next. I was wondering if your queries were resolved, could you restore the tick per Ashorocetus' review for its promotion? I saw something similar at Template:Did you know nominations/Jochen Rindt and thought I should message you. Regards, Yash! 04:53, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Diana

Separated at birth?

Hi Jlan. I am back from yoga class and ready to start working in Diana, Princess of Wales. If you could tell me which diffs you have cleared that would be perfect. Thanks, — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 18:18, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Diannaa, I did the last seven on my list (# 104–110), and have already removed them from there. The diffs from 111 on shouldn't need checking because that's where I optimistically rolled it back to when I first identified the problem. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:27, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Okay, I am going to work on it for a couple hours, so stay off for now. Thanks so much for your help. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 18:28, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

I am stopping for now. I have completed to and including #85 on your list. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 22:33, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Wow! That's heroic – and the end is in sight. I'll try to do some more tomorrow, working on the other large project in my sandbox at the moment. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:38, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

I have finished the rest of the diffs and will be revision-deleting back to the diff about the coat of arms that we talked about. Thanks again for your help with clean-up of this article. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:25, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

JMO

I smell a sockpuppet: [1]. Just my opinion. Montanabw^(talk) 00:38, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

On ethnicity of Giovanni Battista Pittoni

I did revert back to Italian. See talk page for artist. No one denies the truth of your assertion, but the consensus has been to call such persons "Italian", and I think there are good reasons for that. Sydney Joseph Freedberg in his volume, titled "Painting in Italy, 1500-1600", discusses painters from Milan to Venice to Naples. The same is true for Rudolf Wittkower in his Pelican History of Art, "Art and Architecture Italy, 1600-1750". GB Pittoni is mentioned in page 91. Both these are major works in the topic by major scholars. They see a role for using the term "Italian" to describe painters from these regions in these eras. If this is still very contentious, the prior debate would have to be re-opened.Rococo1700 (talk) 19:11, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

New sock of "Alec Smithson"

Will you report "Max"? I'm off PC, and just with tablet this goes badly..--Yopie (talk) 21:03, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes, just doing it now. It couldn't be much more obvious, could it? We should mention this to Lucas too, as he's made a similar account on Italian wp, Utente:Max Araldi. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 21:08, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

@Yopie: Thanks, is there any ip check (check user, I mean) to see? Thanks! --Lucas (talk) 02:12, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Lucas, Max was blocked on behavioural similarity. Yopie filed an SPI but didn't request checkuser. Regards (to both), Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 12:32, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

@Yopie: Ok, it was too old to check (I thought there could be multiple ips), so it's a duck. Thank you both. --Lucas (talk) 09:34, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Lucas, checkusers won't link IPs to registered accounts – at least, not publicly. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 13:42, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

I am not used to ask for a check directly here on en.wiki and I do know that the policy (at least should) apply interwiki, but as you can see "sometimes" it happens. ;) In any case, a checkuser may say "yes, there is a postive link with 3 ips that are trying to avoid the block". --Lucas (talk) 17:14, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

AFIK as former CsArbComm member, this is possible for a checkuser, but you must explicitly demand it. But they dont like it and usualy they prefer behaviour check. With "Alec" we not need it, because his poor English and obsession with Natoli.--Yopie (talk) 00:57, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

David W. Allan

I see you were the one to strip the David_W._Allan page. David is my father. We spent a lot of time creating that page, with references, etc. I can't fathom why you stripped it. He is a world-leading scientist. What are you? IEEE is doing a feature issue on his Allan Variance soon. http://www.ieee-uffc.org/publications/tr/special-issue-variance-50th.asp

I see that older versions of that page here are unavailable to restore to. Why?

It's this kind of nonsense that spurred me 12 years ago to start http://PESWiki.com, the best exotic free energy website in the world. I can't stand the kind of idiocy that occurs here at Wikipedia, personified by what you just did to the article about my dad. A lot of people worked on that page, then you stripped it, for no good reason.

You should be banned from Wikipedia, but you're probably one of its key administrators.

How do we restore that page? How do we banish you?

-- Sterlingda (talk) 00:46, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

@Sterlingda: The page will not be restored. The content was removed and old revisions deleted due to copyright violations. (See the log.) — JJMC89 (T·C) 02:55, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Terreña

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Parnall

Thanks for deleting all of the copyvio stuff on Parnall. I am amazed it could have been undetected for over 13 years. Is it OK to remove some of the empty sub heads etc or should I wait until an admin has done the deletion request? — Rod ^talk 16:35, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi, Rodw, and thank you so much for noticing that copyvio and listing it – kudos! You should feel free to edit the remaining skeleton of the page in any way you like (apart from, obviously, sticking back any of the copyvio!), there's no need to wait. As for the age, this has set a new record for me – version 169,000-odd of Wikipedia! It might also have been the oldest text without any significant references in Wikipedia, but who knows? I wish you luck with it. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:11, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Over my head

If you can pop over to Međimurje horse and help Tsaag Valren, she's got a project going where she's trying to get the horse articles consistent on wikidata, and apparently we have two articles on the same horse breed -- I think. The language issues are over my head, and Tsaag is very active on French wiki, but she values help with her English, so I thought that you might be able to be of more help to her on this project than I am. Montanabw^(talk)|GO THUNDER! 04:52, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Johannes Engel

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 12:02, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
	Thank you for your continued investigations into textual copyright violations such as at Anu Malhotra. I'm sure you know, but I'll chip in, that it is very much appreciated. BethNaught (talk) 21:50, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, BethNaught, for your kind words! For a variety of reasons I've been able to do very little recently. The backlog is completely out of hand, but I'm hoping to chip away at it a bit more often from now on. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:05, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Bruce Silverstein Gallery

Justlettersandnumbers, Can you please clarify your ongoing issue with the updates being made to the Bruce Silverstein Gallery page? Your comments from the previous edits: "Not an improvement; this page is about the gallery, not a person; copyright violations, too." If you look at other gallery wiki pages (i.e. Pace MacGill) the same format is being used and you do not take issue with this? The gallery owner of any gallery is a large part of the historical and contemporary program of the gallery. Might you suggest ways for the BSG page to be built in a more appropriate manner?

207.38.161.165 (talk) 03:55, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi! By far the best way forward for that page is for editors with a close personal or professional connection with the gallery to keep strictly away from the article and refrain entirely from editing it, but instead propose any desired change on the talk page, Talk:Bruce Silverstein Gallery. There are instructions on that page on how to do that. Please note that, if the WSJ says the gallery was "in a 500-square-foot studio on the first floor of a townhouse on West 22nd Street in New York", you cannot simply copy that into Wikipedia; that is copyright violation, and is not tolerated here (it's also against the law). I agree that our article on Peter MacGill needs attention. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 11:29, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Wondering about

a warning your placed on User talk:SNAAAAKE!! about content that had been in Kaufering concentration camp. I know that particular editor is blocked and could not find his name in the article's editing history (was thinking it could have been one of his socks?) Just curious about how the warning ended up on that user talk page. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 16:17, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi, Shearonink! The copyvio at Kaufering concentration camp was added by user HanzoHattori in 2007. User talk:HanzoHattori redirects to User talk:SNAAAAKE!!, so that's where I left the notice. I haven't looked at the sock history, though someone will need to if there turns out to be any pattern of copyright violation here. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 16:25, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

I figured it was something like that - what a tangled socking web. Thanks for answering my query, I'm always curious about how Wikipedia works. Cheers, Shearonink (talk) 16:44, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For your work at Bobby Lockwood following the copyright violations - thanks. :-) Ches (talk) 13:28, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Just letting you know I removed the circumflex accent from the word "role" - there shouldn't be one on that word. Best, --Ches (talk) 17:31, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Er, are you quite sure about that, Chesnaught555? Here are about 10 000 results on Google Scholar which seem not to be aware of it. Perhaps you'd like to undo that edit? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:51, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Ah, my apologies. I will undo that. I didn't think the English language had circumflex accents. Still, my apologies, I'll revert it. --Ches (talk) 17:54, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Well, TIL. clpo13_(talk) 18:01, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Il Primo Libro delle Canzoni

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Just edited addition to the FIT article

Following your very good suggestions, I have sourced my post and placed it where it may more appropriately fit with other dates and foundational information about the college.Andesite39 (talk) 16:21, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Green-legged Partridge

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:01, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Copyright?

Does this edit constitute a copyright violation? Hawaan12 (talk) 04:35, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Sorry to have been slow to reply, Hawaan12. I see why you ask, but I don't see any real copyvio problem there. However, as an aside, I don't think the Beckett and Phenomenology source is an appropriate one – it's discussing Beckett's language, not the definition of infantilisation. That should come from a text on that subject. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:04, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Minnie J. Grinstead

Thanks for your note on my talk page. I did a small re-write a few days ago of the sections that had been highlighted. There's only so many ways to re-word a sentence, so I'm not sure how to approach it. Any suggestions would be appreciated, as it's certainly a notable biography. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:15, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

I saw that, Magnolia677, but I didn't feel that it had resolved the problem. Rather than re-wording of a sentence or two, what the page needs is to be rewritten in completely new words – your own words. The meaning of the source can freely be reproduced, but not in the same language that the source uses. It often helps if you avoid following the structure of the source too, and drawing from more than one source as you write can also help. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:17, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Alec Smithson

Well, my last ounce of good faith concerning the current IP at Carlo Biotti has completely disappeared. At first I thought he might have been a family member, but I'm now quite convinced that it's Alec Smithson. Newbie attorney makes edits like this? Uh huh. Do you think we should apply for page protection or just keep reverting him? The trouble is, as an IP they'll never block him for more than a couple of days . Voceditenore (talk) 18:27, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi! It's him for sure – I've been dealing with the same rubbish for months; Yopie has dealt with a good deal of it too. However, your family-member suggestion is not a dumb one. It took me a moment or two to realise that the two possibilities were not incompatible. The most likely reason for the lunatic obsession with people called Natoli and Polli is that they are relatives, Biotti may be another (see for example this mis-named file).

What to do? I've no idea – he changes IP all the time, and the level of disruption at any one article is not usually enough to justify protection. I think the only thing to do is to revert on sight without paying any attention at all to whatever he may be trying to say or engaging with him in any way. This is of course where we need those "more robust tools" against long-term abuse that we've asked the WMF for. I've nearly finished cleaning up and attributing his articles here (see the list here); those on it.wp and fr.wp are still mostly a total pig's breakfast, but I'm not planning to work on them. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:59, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

I wonder if a CBAN on Alec Smithson would be ideal here. It's clear that he's WP:NOTHERE, not to mention an incompetent sockmaster whose only intent is to cause havoc. Best, --Ches (talk) 19:08, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Well, he's already indeffed here and globally locked. I don't really see that a ban would give us any advantage in dealing with the IP-hopping, do you? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:22, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Fair enough sir. Perhaps range blocking the IPs would be within the community's best interest, if that has yet to be done? --Ches (talk) 19:27, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Well, well, well. A bit of googling this morning turns up lots of people with the double name of Natoli Biotti, Polli Natoli, and people related to both groups e.g. here. It would certainly account for the... er... fervor of his outrage at "mistakes" in the articles. A range block would be difficult. He seems to use Telecom Italia IPs geolocated to the area around Milan with a range between (at least) 95... and 79... I'm sure they'd tell us it would affect way too many users. Anyhow, from now on, I'll just revert him without comment. Justlettersandnumbers, are there any other pages you'd like me to watch? Voceditenore (talk) 08:21, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

I think that's pretty much all we can do, and it's completely dependent on constant watching of the pages. So yes, please do add some to your watchlist if you have room. The most obsessive topics are Natoli, Polli, Lierna and Sperlinga, but take your pick from my list. Thanks for your help! Just in case you've any lingering good faith about the IP: definitive confirmation. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 11:09, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

I've added all the (existing) pages he's created to my watchlist. Interesting pattern. Apart from stuff obviously related to the Natoli/Polli/Biotti clan, I suspect many of the artist biographies were for works which they own, followed by biographies of art historians to validate the material about the artists. Ditto the "historians of nobility". What an incredible time-sink this person has been, not to mention abusing my assumption of good faith by socking away at the same time he was claiming to be the "legal advisor" to Carlo Biotti's family. UGH! Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:15, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Excellent, thank you! Time-sink? You can say that again! Good thought about the artworks, that would explain the interest in obscure second- and third-rate artists (some of the fourth-rate ones got deleted). Your good faith was misplaced but does you credit. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:53, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Yours, all yours

Well-intentioned overeager newbie: [2]. Old edits read like a copy-and-paste; I suspect the images are all copyvio too. Article was blanked as unreffed (probably copyvio) and redirected to Boer pony, which could use some work anyway. I have other fish to fry. Have at it if you choose to, but perhaps the issue of whether we need revdel at Boerperd history is also something up your alley. Anyway, it's all yours. Montanabw^(talk) 00:18, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

You saw what I've done. I didn't see any evidence of copyvio in either the English or the Afrikaans content added by the new editor; did you see anything specific? (I'll look again if you did) I added attribution for the part that was translated. I've nominated most of the images for deletion on Commons, but don't have the language skills to do the same on af.wp (that's a pretty impenetrable language!). Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 23:58, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Forgot I had this watchlisted due to ancient dramahz. I took a look at Boerperd, and the stand-out thing was that the images are all credited to other individuals (in the captions in the article, as if this is a newspaper), but the author of the page uploaded them as self-owned, so that's a red flag. Dunno about the text; if it was translated from something in Afrikaans, it might be originally from elsewhere. Hope the image catch is helpful.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  07:09, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Yep, that's why I nominated most of them for deletion – those that had a photographer or studio credited in the text, on the image itself, or in the EXIF data. A few of them didn't have any of those, and G-image searching didn't immediately throw up any evidence of copyvio; I imagine that the Commons admin who looks at the deletion requests will also look at other uploads, and be much smarter than I am at this kind of thing. I did use Earwig's tool to check for copyvio in the Afrikaans version of the page (which would have made ours a translational copyvio), but found no cause for anxiety. Unless you guys can see anything else to worry about here I really think we're in the clear (as far as text goes, anyway). Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 11:29, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

The breathless "my magic pony is a unicorn" tone in the article kind of jumped out at me, which is probably why I was fretting ... best you handle this new editor. Actually, if they can be calmed down, sometimes the over-enthusiastic can become really good contributors; it really does depend on how much they are able to learn how things work on en.wiki. But on this one, glad to see you reach out to that editor and on this one, it is better you handle it, JLAN; I've got two mentees right now and both are going great guns, keeping me pretty busy (along with all the usual wiki-drahmahz elsewhere...). Montanabw^(talk) 23:00, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

List of writers on horsemanship

Please see my comment on the talk page. A list of written works is not suitable evidence of notability because it is not an independent source. IronGargoyle (talk) 23:43, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

File:David Muse Studio Theatre Washington DC Artistic Director.jpg

Hi Jlan. Could you do me a favour and see if you can find a permission email for this photo in the OTRS queue? It's been tagged as OTRS pending for a long time, and the email has been recently re-sent. Thanks, — Diannaa (talk) 18:27, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Found it, but the permission wasn't entirely sufficient – I've had to ask for clarification. Fifteen months, eh? – but it looks as if it was them who dropped the ball. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:57, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for checking. — Diannaa (talk) 19:42, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Good Evening Jlan - a correction, at my request a different individual, the new (this year) Digital Marketing Manager for Studio Theater, sent a new email to permissions-en@wikimedia.org at 10:31am EDT 14 March 2016. This email included the following:

"I agree to publish the above-mentioned content under the free license: Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported and GNU Free Documentation License (unversioned, with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts)."

If necessary I can forward you the entire email, a copy of the email that she bcc'ed me

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Ecragg (talk) 02:44, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Yes, Ecragg, that is the ticket I found, read and added to the page with this edit. However, the permission was not entirely sufficient, so I asked for further clarification. I've not heard back. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:18, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Possible copyright infringement?

Hello. I see that you detected copyright infringement in the Baltimore and Ohio article. I am suspecting that the article Building the Virginian Railway might count: If I were to look up some phases or excerpts from the latter article in quotations in Google Books, I usually get a result of the H. Reid book The Virginian Railway. The searched excerpts includes the book result even if it doesn't mention the railroad. I can't copy any excerpt to my message in case it's copyrighted material. I don't have the book, but checking the contents of the book and verify any matched text will prove if there's an infringement or not (I'm not assuming you have the book). TheGGoose (talk) 03:18, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Simon of Athens

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Heh

Just so you know, I do run across articles you've worked on from multiple other sources: [3]. BTW, thanks for doing Simon and congrats on the DYK. Montanabw^(talk) 03:00, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Louise Blouin and Louise Blouin Media pages

Dear Justlettersandnumbers, Let me introduce myself, I’m working for Louise Blouin Media and I’ve tried to add some information on both Louise Blouin Media and Louise Blouin pages for more than one year! All information I added were certified information concerning our group, our brands, our developments or our Chairman. I noticed that you removed or restored 75 times contents on our pages! I do not understand why all our posts were suppressed,as contents and sources were relevant and perfectly neutrally sourced. It seems that you have a personal issue with those pages and that you deliberately are trying to harm our reputation, which is not acceptable. Best, Lbm usuer2015