Talk:IllumiNations: Reflections of Earth

Pre-Show Music Update

I visit EPCOT several times a month and last night made a point to sit and listen to the entire pre-show. Since the guidelines discourage "Original Research" there is no real way to verify the exact play list unless I upload an entire video of the pre-show with audio and sitting right next to a speaker. If this is requested of me I will do it as I will be there again in a few days but here is what the pre-show music was as of last night from sitting in the Canadian Paviliion:

1 - Jalan Kopo 2 - East Wind 3 - Busindre Reel 4 - Gaviotes 5 - Tula 6 - Our Life

The last group that plays in the Word Showcase is done (with the exception of Mo'roccan) by 8:25 for the pre-show music which lasts about 30min. These lists of 8 or 9 songs is totally false as that would add up to nearly an hour of pre-show music. I am going to visit a few more paviliions and record the audio and post it online for people to debate and discuss. The Claw (talk) 19:02, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Production

Should a list of the people who worked on this be provided or at least a link to one?

New speakers

I don't know what exactly they are doing with this new sound system, but it's a mess. The preshow music was the newer loop. I could hear the echo from another speaker from the other side of the lagoon during the show. Afterwards, I couldn't hear the post show music through most of World Showcase. The post show music just cut off randomly and then "Celebrate You" played. The intro narrator is not the same as the ending narrator. I just wanna throw in that I'm not a fan of Bose, it's over priced and over simplified setups if you ask me. Where is all of this new info coming from anyway? They should have just left it alone, before, Jim Cummings narrated the intro and ending, the preshow music didn't mix and sound like crap with the country's music, the post show music was nice and loud and could be heard from everywhere, and no Celebrate You. --blm07 07:13, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Pyro count update

Pyro pieces per show updated to current level. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pyroteq (talk • contribs) 20:12, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Act Names

I have renamed the acts to reflect what the Show Manager called them in the video I referenced. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elisfkc (talk • contribs) Elisfkc (talk) 06:13, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

File:1 epcot illuminations 2010.jpg to appear as POTD soon

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Picture of the day

A long-exposure shot of the finale of the second act of IllumiNations: Reflections of Earth, the nightly fireworks show at Epcot in Walt Disney World. This three-act show premiered in 1999 and has won eleven straight Golden Ticket Awards for Best Outdoor Night Production Show.Photograph: Chensiyuan

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:IllumiNations: Reflections of Earth/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Khanate General (talk · contribs) 11:35, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

• I'll review this article soon.--Khanate General ☪ talk ^{project mongol conquests} 11:35, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Sweet Elisfkc (talk) 21:02, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Image review

• File:1 epcot illuminations 2010.jpg,File:Illuminations Inferno Barage Final Moment.jpg, File:Reflections of Earth 9.jpg, File:World Showcase Lagoon during IllumiNations.jpg, File:IllumiNations barge and Earth Globe.jpg, File:IllumiNations barges.jpg, File:Mexico pavilion at Epcot.jpg, File:IllumiNations Reflections of Earth Holiday Tag.jpg
  • The images are correctly tagged and nothing is missing from the image summary.
• File:Illuminations Inferno Barage Animated.gif
  • The word "action" in the caption should not be capitalized.
• File:RoE-29lone.jpg
  • The second sentence in the caption needs a period since it's a complete sentence.

Close paraphrasing and copyvio review

• Earwig's Copyvio Detector reports that a copyright violation is very likely. While two of the checked sources are Wikimedia mirrors and false positives, wdwinfo.com is one of the main sources used in this article.
• I have some serious concerns about close paraphrasing. Several sentences were taken directly from the sources cited in the article with superficial modifications. You will need to convey the information in the sources using your own words.
• The Earth Globe is considered to be the most complicated piece of show action equipment ever made by Disney (Wikipedia) versus The Earth Globe, which is considered one of the most complicated piece of show action equipment in the history of Disney Imagineering (source)
  • The structure of the sentence is nearly exactly the same as the original. Also, who considers the Earth Globe to be "the most complicated piece of show action equipment" by Disney?
• Walt Disney Entertainment invented a way of launching the fireworks by using a compressed air system, instead of black powder (Wikipedia) versus Walt Disney Entertainment created a new way of launching fireworks by using Air Launch Fireworks (ALF), a compressed air system, instead of black powder.
  • The sentence uses the same language and structure as the original source. Minor rewording (changing "created" to "invented") is not enough.
• Don Dorsey traveled to China to meet with fireworks manufacturers to create these new dazzling effects. (Wikipedia) versus Don traveled to China, the birthplace of fireworks, to meet with fireworks manufacturers to create some dazzling new effects. (source)
  • Again, the language and structure of the Wikipedia sentence is exactly the same as the original source. The only major difference is that the Wikipedia line omits "the birthplace of fireworks".
• The 13-minute show requires 67 computers in 40 locations, hundreds of special lighting fixtures, four fountain barges pumping 5,000 gallons per minute, a 150,000-pound inferno barge with 37 nozzles shooting propane flames into the air, and lasers delivering a kaleidoscope of colors. (Wikipedia) versus The 13-minute show requires 67 computers in 40 locations, hundreds of special lighting fixtures, four fountain barges pumping 5,000 gallons per minute, a 150,000-pound inferno barge with 37 nozzles shooting propane flames into the air, and lasers delivering a kaleidoscope of colors. (source)
  • This paragraph was plagiarized word-for-word from the original source.
• The 13-minute show requires 67 computers in 40 locations, hundreds of special lighting fixtures, four fountain barges pumping 5,000 gallons per minute, a 150,000-pound inferno barge with 37 nozzles shooting propane flames into the air, and lasers delivering a kaleidoscope of colors. (Wikipedia) versus Sixty-seven computers in 40 locations, hundreds of special lighting fixtures, four fountain barges pumping 5,000 gallons of water per minute, a 150,000-pound inferno barge with 37 nozzles to shoot propane flames skyward, and a full color spectrum of lasers (source)
  • Here is another instance of close paraphrasing and borderline plagiarism. The only change was a minor rewording of a full color spectrum of lasers to a kaleidoscope of colors.
• The performance concludes with the post-show announcement (Wikipedia) versus The performance concludes with the post-show announcement (source)
  • The Wikipedia sentence is identical to the sentence in the source.

Sources

• The quality and quantity of sources in this article does not meet the GA requirements. A number of paragraphs lack sources. The article also relies heavily on primary sources such as Youtube, which raises concerns about original research.
• The following sections have no citations: Pre-show music, Act III: Meaning, Moving lights, Fountain barges, Torches, Holiday Finale, Fourth of July, Epcot's 25th Anniversary Special Edition, and Epcot's 30th Anniversary Special Edition.

Summary

The article still needs a significant amount of improvement. Close paraphrasing and outright plagiarism is the most urgent problem and should be fixed immediately. The article lacks sources, and many of the sources that it does use are primary sources from Youtube.--Khanate General ☪ talk ^{project mongol conquests} 08:01, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Response

Give me a couple days, I'll try fixing up most of it, if not all. Elisfkc (talk) 23:09, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

@Khanate General: Finished image work and paraphrasing work. Will work on sources next. Elisfkc (talk) 21:11, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

@Khanate General: Ok, I have added sources to all of the sections that did not have them before (hoping to find a better one for Fourth of July). Each section now also has a non-YouTube reference for it, since you said that YouTube references are not good (in some cases though, they are just unavoidable). What now? Elisfkc (talk) 17:00, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

@Khanate General: Hello? --Elisfkc (talk) 19:42, 14 May 2016 (UTC)