Talk:List of WWE personnel

Stable /Tag team affiliation

Should any Stable /Tag team affiliation be stated under "notes" on the roster? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.226.237.58 (talk) 08:32, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

No, because it would lead to constant chaos - keep things as simple as possible. Vjmlhds (talk) 14:07, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 July 2015

86.177.63.125 (talk) 16:16, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

 Not done You have not requested a change to the article. Datbubblegumdoe (talk) 16:36, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Lana as a wrestler?

I personally disagree with Lana being listed as a wrestler now. Somebody is insisting that she remains listed as a wrestler because she had small brawls with Summer Rae. In my opinion, brawls don't count as wrestling, and that I don't think she should be considered a wrestler until she wrestles a televised match or if one's announced. It's like The New Age Outlaws, Vince and Stephanie, El Torito, Hornswoggle, the commentators, etc. Whadayya think? Future WWE Champion, DrewieStewie (talk) 21:55, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

• Totally agree. Wrestle a match first. starship.paint ~ KO 01:48, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 July 2015

May i be able to edit on the wwe personnel page

Ggmaties77 (talk) 22:31, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. Cannolis (talk) 01:32, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Lana/Hornswoggle/Torito

One would not be incorrect to label Lana, Hornswoggle, and El Torito as wrestlers.

Lana is obviously in a feud with Summer Rae (as an offshoot of the Ziggler-Rusev feud), she has brawled with Summer, and it's apparent that it's leading to a match between the two (either one-on-one, or a mixed tag with their respective fellas). And the women should be given more leeway regarding this issue compared to the men anyway, as they don't wrestle nearly as many matches as the guys do (1 diva match - MAYBE 2 if they're lucky - per card)

Lana is no longer just a wall flower who stays on the outside.

And Torito and Horny have wrestled a ton of times. Granted mostly as comedy acts and not serious competitors, but they've wrestled plenty, and are not merely sidekicks.

Vjmlhds (talk) 00:51, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

I agree with you on Torito and Horny, but Lana has NO match on her resume. She trained to wrestle, but got injured and couldn't do it at that time. She was put on as manager, and with Dolph, has had some physical segments with Summer, but that doesn't mean she has wrestled an actual match. If I were you, I'd wait until she has wrestled a televised match (or has one announced). I personally think she'll be a wrestler soon, but I don't think it'll happen for another couple weeks minimum, or until SummerSlam maximum. For now, Lana, who has no match on resume, I just think we should wait until she does a match or if ones announced. Future WWE Champion, DrewieStewie (talk) 01:00, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

I think you're splitting too many hairs here. It's very apparent that she and Summer are gonna have some business, and it's become obvious that she's graduated from from mere manager to a fighting diva. People like Paul Heyman or Zeb Colter or Hogan/Lita/Gunn (Tough Enough) are there in non-physical roles, and are listed as such. Lana has clearly made the jump from that status. Personally, I think the "Other on-air personnel" list should be strictly for those in non-physical roles. Once Lana started throwing down with Summer, and it became clear that they're destined for a match, then Lana showed that she's above being merely "other personnel". User:Vjmlhds (talk) 02:40, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

WP:CRYSTALBALL says you're woefully incorrect to do this. RealDealBillMcNeal (talk) 00:34, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

• @Vjmlhds: - if you're so confident Lana will wrestle, why don't you wait until she actually does? Horny and Torito are wrestlers, but Lana isn't yet. starship.paint ~ KO 01:51, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Tim Wiese doesn't have a contract, he never has and never will.

If anybody can give any evidence to the contrary, go ahead. But being a guest timekeeper at a house show nine months ago does not equate to evidence he has signed a contract. RealDealBillMcNeal (talk) 15:46, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

changing the profile

So I wonder how do you change the profile of a wrestler Ak47wwe (talk) 14:54, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Lana and Stephanie.

Lana and Stephanie McMahon should stay in the main roster.

Lana is clearly feuding with Summer Rae, and everything is setting up for them to wrestle each other in either a singles or mixed tag match (with Ziggler and Rusev).

And women wrestlers should be cut a bit more slack than the males, as they don't wrestle as often as men do anyway.

Stephanie is in the HHH category of saving his bullets for major feuds and angles, as she has wrestled the Bellas (with that feud main eventing Raw a couple of times last year), and has some business with Rhonda Rousey - which was set up last year at WrestleMania, and is rumored to culminate this year at Mania.

This is something relatively new in wrestling, where WWE is using people like Brock, Taker, Rock, Sting, HHH, and Stephanie in spurts for feuds leading up to major shows, then they disappear/fade into the background for awhile, and then they come back for their next feud/match, and so on, and so on.

Gotta have some wiggle room for stuff like this - no need to be so rigid.

Vjmlhds (talk) 19:01, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

As I told you, I think they should stay in the Other on air personnel. Both have feuds, but they aren't wrestlers, the point of the section Female wrestlers. A feud doesn't transform a valet/comentator/referee into a wrestler. A lot of personnel had matches (Heyman, Long, Laurinitis, Michael Cole...) but they aren't wrestlers. Also, some of your thoughts are CRYSTALBALL ("everything is setting up for them to wrestle each other", "has some business with Rhonda Rousey"). It doesn't make Lana and McMahon wrestlers, they still a valet and an Authority Figure. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 17:03, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

They are occasional wrestlers, yet they are mostly on-air personalities. They stay in the on -air personalities part of the page as I have put them. - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 17:15, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

HHH and Steph are way above Heyman and Coulter - you see Heyman and Coulter getting major Wrestlemania matches every year like HHH does? Not all "other on-air personnel" are the same HHH still is viewed as a major attraction, which is why he gets high profile matches on PPV every year - to lump him in the same grouping as Paul Heyman and Zeb Coulter is misleading. Heath Slater wrestles 200 matches a year - do those matches mean as much to WWE as 1 or 2 yearly HHH matches? - gotta have some perspective here. Vjmlhds (talk) 17:23, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

im sorry... Levels? Another OR. Here are four levels:wrestlers, broadcast team, referees and other. No matter mcmahon have a superior status to heyman or colter, it doesnt make her a wrestler. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 17:48, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

It's a list of personnel, not a list of wrestlers alone. They occasionally wrestle, but they are not billed as such. And you sir, are in an edit war with the other user which is not permitted. Until a consensus is made here, you should not be moving them. - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 17:30, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Who does the billing? Joe Schmo Wikipedia editor or WWE? Vjmlhds (talk) 18:00, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

"Occasional Wrestlers"

This "occasional wrestler" thing has got to go - you either wrestle or you don't.

HHH wrestles on major shows every year, Stephanie is starting to as well, Lana is building up to a match with Summer Rae in some form or fashion.

Whether you wrestle 2 matches per year or 200 shouldn't matter.

Vjmlhds (talk) 17:58, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Unassigned personnel/NXT

Should we move the wrestlers that have ring names and appear at NXT house shows to the NXT roster? I know the rule states we only move them if they appeared on the show and are on the website, but can we make an exception? I'm only asking for the ones that do have ring names and not the ones that don't. Keith Okamoto (talk) 00:12, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

I agree with the above. Wrestlers such as Elias Samson and Peyton Royce have ring names and have appeared on television - and even have WWE-sanctioned Twitter accounts - so surely should count as NXT wrestlers as opposed to "unassigned"? IanPCP (talk) 09:32, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

James Storm

James Storm debutted on NXT this week's episode of NXT defeating Danny Burch. Why's isn't he listed on NXT as WWE personnel? 2A02:C7D:C0D:8B00:9C74:CE81:D915:12EE (talk) 20:11, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Simple, he hasn't officially signed with WWE. He's like Johnny Gargano and Tommaso Ciampa, a free agent. Once we have a source of his official signing, then he's added.--Keith Okamoto (talk) 20:19, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Because it was just a one shot deal, and there's talk about him being on TNA's upcoming India tour. I'd hold the phone about adding him to the NXT roster until after he decides whether or not he's going to India with TNA or not. Vjmlhds (talk) 20:21, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Broadcast team

I think we should split the broadcast team section in 2 - a section for the play by play/analysts/interviewers on the main shows, and a section for those who host shows on WWE Network.

As it is, the section is turning into a cluster (you know what) with everybody cramming into the one section.

Vjmlhds (talk) 04:37, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

I don't mind, split it up.--Keith Okamoto (talk) 04:43, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Triple H

Since Triple H doesn't wrestle, unless for special occasion, shouldn't he be moved to Other on-air personnel? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.214.94.65 (talk) 08:51, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

As long as he's front and center, and involved in feuds with people, he stays on the active roster. This isn't OR, but a pattern traced from 4 years of his "COO" role, and a track record of him still being pushed as a major player. Vjmlhds (talk) 22:32, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

As I told you, be involved in feuds doesn't mean he is a wrestler. A man/woman is a wrestler when he/she wrestles. However... Triple H looks more like a semi-retired wrestler. He is an authority figure, but he still wrestling. We have no source about retirement, so I think, he should keep as male wrestler. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 16:43, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

You know what's scary? The Great Kabuki has had at least sixteen matches this year. You know who's really front and center, wearing a suit and talking nonstop? Michael Cole. Triple H is still pretty major, but it's hard to call him more than semi-active, as a wrestler. Not impossible, though. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:08, December 7, 2015 (UTC)

Here's the difference between HHH and say...JBL JBL since he came back in 2012 has wrestled 1 match - his quickie cameo in the 2014 Royal Rumble. He has never been part of any storylines or any feuds. HHH - since his COO gimmick started in 2011 - has been involved in numerous storylines, and had a bunch of matches (Punk, Nash, Taker, Brock, Bryan, The Shield, Sting, and now it looks like Reigns could be next up). HHH is still promoted as a major player, and thus it would be misleading to toss him in the "other personnel" file. Vjmlhds (talk) 19:25, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Again, I don't know why do you talk about Other on air personnel as a minor level to Wrestlers. JBL is retired, so he isn't a wrestler. Right now, he is a commentator. If someday, HHH says he's retired, he'll go to the other on air talent. As Bill says, it's not about how many matches you had. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 19:57, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

So a man who averages less than two matches a year is a wrestler? He does more promos in a week as the on-screen COO than he's had matches in the last four years. RealDealBillMcNeal (talk) 19:55, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Then @RealDealBillMcNeal:, do you think HHH should be included as Other on air employee or as a male wrestler? --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 19:58, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

HHH's matches since August 2011 - when he began his COO gimmick

• Sept 2011 - Night of Champions (vs CM Punk)
• Dec 2011 - TLC (vs Kevin Nash)
• April 2012 - WrestleMania 28 (vs Undertaker)
• August 2012 - Summerslam (vs Brock Lesnar)
• April 2013 - WrestleMania 29 (vs Brock Lesnar)
• May 2013 - Extreme Rules (vs Brock Lesnar)
• April 2014 - Wrestlemania 30 (vs Daniel Bryan)
• May 2014 - Extreme Rules (Evolution vs The Shield)
• June 2014 - Payback (Evolution vs The Shield)
• March 2015 - WrestleMania 31 (vs Sting)

And more than likely, he'll have a match at this year's WrestleMania as well (vs Roman Reigns if the kids on the interwebs are right)

So while it's not a lot of matches in pure numbers, they all take place on major shows, vs main event talent, with weeks of build. They promote HHH matches as major deals, so he's very much part of the actual roster

Again, what's your problem with the Other on air personnel? All of them are part of the actual roster, from Renee Young to JBL. I don't undertand what do you think Male wrestlers section is about. If HHH is in the other on air personnel, he'll still part of the actual roster. It's not like a minor league or an insult. Its just HHH isn't a wrestler because he is focus in other role. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 01:12, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

HHH is wrestling in major matches on PPV, and still considered a major player. Zeb Colter is riding around in a scooter. HHH belongs more in the column with the actual wrestlers than the guy riding around in a scooter, and Rusev's eye candy. Nobody's watching WrestleMania to see Zeb ride a scooter. Vjmlhds (talk) 04:25, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Vjmlhds (talk) 23:54, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Triple H's current role is basically Mr. McMahon from the Attitude Era. Vince competed in some matches while in the Other on-air personnel role. I see nothing wrong with putting Triple H in the Other on-air personnel section.--Keith Okamoto (talk) 00:04, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

During the Attitude Era, Wikipedia wasn't even invented yet. And Vince was transferred to the main roster (in the early days of this article in 2007) when he was ECW Champion. Bad comparison. Vjmlhds (talk) 00:09, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Spitting in the face of people who don't want to be cool wasn't invented yet, either. Those people would have thought the guy with the apple didn't want to be cool. They'd have laughed at his hair, too. Some things change. Some things don't. Today's Triple H is a Mr. McMahon, just not Vince McMahon, dammit. Apple-spitters certainly have no chance in Hell again. Cyclical business, you see. Hack-phooey! InedibleHulk (talk) 01:48, December 15, 2015 (UTC)

With the events of TLC, it should be fairly obvious that Roman Reigns and HHH have some business to attend to, thus any talk of putting HHH in "other personnel" should be held off until after WrestleMania 32 at least. Vjmlhds (talk) 05:19, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Original research. RealDealBillMcNeal (talk) 19:37, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Not exactly. Vjmlhds (talk) 22:33, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

He looks pretty active now. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:12, January 25, 2016 (UTC)

Triple H is more active than The Rock is on WWE TV yet The Rock doesn't get moved to other personnel or suffer the over 30 days inactive rule whenever The Rock is inactive for more than 30 days despite him being making Part-time appearances. The Rock will be inactive for over 30 days as of February 24th so he would need to make appearance on the February 22nd's Raw episode to avoid being inactive for more than 30 days. 90.202.105.108 (talk) 12:10, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 December 2015

Please change on the main roster King Barrett to Wade Barrett for matters of he was Wade Barrett from 2010 to 2014 then he won King of the ring and change his name to King Barrett then mid way threw 2015 he change his name back to Wade Barrett. Jtm112701mo (talk) 01:45, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Question: It's not a very big change, but is there any way you could give a reliable source for the change? Eteethan(talk) 23:55, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

 Not done. There is nothing in his article that confirms the professional name change back to Wade Barrett as you described. When changed there and accompanied by a reliable source, then it may be changed in this list.  Be prosperous! Paine  00:08, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 January 2016

Hey, I was lurking around the internet and found out that Monty Brown was actually signed to a Legends contract. Could someone put that up? Here's a reference if needed. https://twitter.com/TheMontyBrown/status/675125651846930437 27.33.127.235 (talk) 12:11, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Not done for now: Hey, thanks for the contribution. SPERs need to be very exact, in the sense of "Change X to Y". In addition, Twitter is not a very reliable source. Do you have a news article or anything like that? Sorry about the delay --allthefoxes ^(Talk) 19:49, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Move Amanda Saccomanno/Mandy?

Due to Total Divas returning next week, should we go ahead and move Mandy to Other on-air personnel in the Main roster section?--Keith Okamoto (talk) 19:22, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 February 2016

el toritos name is Mascarita Dorada

99.239.195.227 (talk) 21:25, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 22:19, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Player-coaches

Shane, Steph, and HHH should all remain on the main roster, as they are all essentially player-coaches in WWE.

Player-coaches (or player-managers in baseball) have a long history in "real sports". In addition to the examples provided, the following have made significant history as player-coaches:

• Lou Boudreau - won 1948 World Series as starting shortstop/manager with the Indians
• Bill Russel - won 2 NBA Titles as starting center/head coach of the Celtics in the mid '60s
• Frank Robinson - first black MLB manager with the Indians in 1975 as a player-manager...hit a homer in his first game in that role to help the Tribe win.
• Pete Rose - broke Ty Cobb's all-time hit record in 1986 as player-manager with the Reds.

So if the "legitimate" sports can have player-coaches/player-managers, then why can't WWE...as essentially that's what Shane, Steph, and HHH are.

They own it and run it, but they also still "strap 'em on" when need be...just like everybody else I mentioned and shown via reference.

Vjmlhds (talk) 17:34, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

i oppose to steph. Other on air personnel is under main roster, as female wrestlers section. Steph isnt a wrestler, she doesnt belong in a wrestler section. I dont understand why do you think other on air personnel is a minor level.--HHH Pedrigree (talk) 18:10, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Not seeing the forest for the trees, dude. Does Steph wrestle each and every week....no. Does she do so when a card needs a special attraction...yes. Stephanie is no different than Shane or HHH...she gets in there when she has to, and when she does it's a big deal. And to further my point, Dusty Rhodes, Ric Flair, Kevin Sullivan, and Kevin Nash were all wrestling player-coaches, as they all had stints as head booker in NWA/WCW while also wrestling, as was Jeff Jarrett in the early days of TNA. You can't just go by RIGHT NOW THIS SECOND..you also have to factor in past history, precedents, and have some flexibility. Can't have tunnel vision regarding this stuff. Vjmlhds (talk) 18:32, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Again. SPECIAL ATTRACTION. WHY? Female wrestlers isn't a section exclusive for special attraction, is for female wrestlers. And steph isn't a female wrestler. She had TWO matches in 2014. Before that, her last match was in 2003. There is no sense to include an authority figure under a wrestlers section because she is a "special atraction". --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 19:09, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Again - tunnel vision. Lana isn't a wrestler...never had a match in her life and is strictly a manager. Stephanie is a former Women's Champion, has wrestled numerous times, is always in the thick of storylines, and gets in there to spice things up. Once again - GOTTA SEE THE WHOLE PICTURE...not just the little smidgeon right in front of your face (see picture below) Vjmlhds (talk) 19:14, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Stephanie WAS a wrestler. Right now, she is a authority figure. NOW, she isn't a wrestler. No tunnel vision or cows. We can't include under the wrestler section people who wrestler one decade ago. Colter was a wrestler, Lawer was a wrestler, even Michael Cole was a wrestler, but NOW, they aren't.. just like Stephanie. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 19:17, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

You're just furthering my point...RIGHT NOW this, RIGHT NOW that...not factoring in the idea of being a player-coach. Cole was a one trick pony - hasn't wrestled or been part of a storyline before or since. Lawler CAN'T wrestle anymore because WWE won't let him after his heart attack, and Zeb Colter CAN'T WALK anymore (the scooter wasn't a gimmick - he had hip surgery) Again not factoring in important details...Stephanie is still front and center, still in the middle of things, and still capable of wrestling (as Summerslam 2014 proved). Vjmlhds (talk) 19:26, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Again. Still in the middle of thing doesn't transform steph into a wrestler. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 19:31, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Again, you aren't seeing the forest for the trees...Steph is a player-coach - doesn't wrestle all the time, but does when she has to JUST LIKE HER BROTHER, AND JUST LIKE HER HUSBAND You don't have to be a FULL TIME wrestler to be a wrestler. Vjmlhds (talk) 19:34, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Doesn't wrestled all the time? She wrestled two matches in the last 13 years. She is not a wrestler. She is under an authority, non-wrestling role. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 19:39, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

A wrestler is one who wrestles, and is still capable of doing so. Nothing more, nothing less. Stephanie has wrestled, and can still do so if called upon JUST LIKE HER BROTHER AND JUST LIKE HER HUSBAND. Vjmlhds (talk) 19:46, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

To put it another way, My philosophy is more like the top picture...it takes everything into account - the sky, the grass, the trees. Your philosophy is like the bottom picture...zeroed in on the cow's head, and completely blocking out everything else. It's always better to have the top picture perspective....you don't miss anything.Vjmlhds (talk) 18:38, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

@HHH Pedrigree:One other thing to consider...women wrestlers simply don't wrestle as often as the guys do...just a fact of life in wrestling They get what..1 (maybe 2) matches a night? As a rule they should be given more slack simply because you can't hold them up to the same standards as the guys. So that's 3 things in my favor...the player-coach philosophy, the big picture/tunnel vision philosophy, and the fact that women wrestlers don't wrestle as often as guys do anyway, so they have to pick their spots carefully. All you have to throw at me is that she's "not a wrestler"...gotta come at me better than that. Vjmlhds (talk) 19:55, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

So? Should we use a different standard for men and women? Why not "people older than 50 years". They had special circuntances too. It's not our problem how WWE uses the female wrestlers. your big picture includes a woman who was a wrestler 10 years ago in a wrong section --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 20:32, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

That's exactly what I'm saying...not everything is cut and dry/black and white..men and women ARE NOT EQUAL in regards to wrestling...just the way it is...this isn't a perfect world utopia...gotta deal with things as they are...not in some fantasy land. Vjmlhds (talk) 20:53, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Putting it to bed

Here are 2 references that make it clear that Stephanie McMahon should count towards the main roster.

1.ABC news refers to her husband as "fellow wrestler" HHH...meaning they consider her a wrestler too.

2.WWE themselves refer to Stephanie as a wrestler as part of their booking agreement

So when both WWE themselves, and the mainstream press call her a wrestler, that's pretty much a done deal that we should too. She had a hiatus to play "mommy", but as per her deal referenced above, she's back in her old role as a personality/executive/wrestler - a player-coach if you will Vjmlhds (talk) 21:54, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

• 3. And just for good measure, here's Stephanie's booking contract that explicitly refers to her as a wrestler. Vjmlhds (talk) 22:30, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

The Rock Being Exception To The Over 30 Days Rule and Other Personel

It has been 30 days (January 25, 2016 was his last WWE appearance) since Rock made a WWE appearance so shouldn't he be labelled as Inactive; hasn't appeared in over 30 days as of tomorrow? The Rock isn't on this week's WWE tapings for SmackDown and Main Event nor was he on Raw this week. Everyone else get labelled as Inactive; hasn't appeared in over 30 days whenever they aren't being used by WWE and The Rock should be no exception because he has part time appearances for WWE which is due the fact he mostly working in Hollywood doing movies. Honestly, Triple H is more active than The Rock is yet The Rock doesn't get moved to Other Personnel or suffer the Over 30 Days Rule whenever he is inactive from WWE. 90.202.105.108 (talk) 11:34, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

The Rock has been heavily advertised as being a part of WrestleMania 32...he has a clear, documented wrestling-related itinerary ahead of him - it's not like he's just sitting around twiddling his thumbs (as far as wrestling goes). Rock is still listed on the WWE.com roster, which is why we list him on this roster. Inactive means sight unseen for 30 days, and no clear plans for using him on the horizon...there are documented plans for Rock having business at WM32, so he isn't "inactive" - he's in the mix. Vjmlhds (talk) 15:16, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Eva Marie

On WWE.com, Eva Marie was removed from the main roster, and is now exclusively on the NXT roster.

Leave her there until she returns to the main roster.

Vjmlhds (talk) 23:27, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 March 2016

Take diego and fernando 30 days inactive and alex riley is compete in nxt not wwe roster DPS18 (talk) 03:03, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Datbubblegumdoe^{[talk – contribs]} 04:47, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

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All of the WWE performers are now known as Superstars.

"Our female performers are world-class athletes, actors, public speakers and philanthropists. They’re role models, inspiring and empowering women and girls to be confident and strong. They dedicate themselves to WWE, achieve great success and earn the same respect as their male counterparts.

All of our performers – male and female – will be known as Superstars." (Stephanie McMahon on The Players' Tribune on the subject of female performers no longer being called Divas)

I am just mentioned that news in case anybody reverts Dohvahkiin's edit by calling them Divas. 2A02:C7D:C0D:8B00:14BE:56B8:9963:FDD0 (talk) 11:31, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

References

Lana and Maryse

Lana and Maryse should be listed as wrestlers.

Maryse's track record shows that she is a wrestler by trade (2X Divas Champion), and is presumptuous to assume that all she will be is Miz's manager when her track record says otherwise.

Lana - she had her debut match, is part of the BAD & Blonde stable, and was part of the ceremony for the new Women's Championship with the other female diva...err...superstars, thus indicating she is considered as part of the diva...err...women's division.

Instead of going tit for tat with reverts, discuss the issue here so we can reach consensus, and whatever the consensus says goes...if consensus says no, THEN, we can change it back

Vjmlhds (talk) 04:44, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

• Although she has been a champion in the past, does not change the fact that there has been no announced WWE signing for Maryse. She is a former wrestler and has not wrestled since (I think) 2012. Mainly, there is no confirmation of a contract signing. "Hey there! How's it goin'?" 04:49, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

• • While it's unknown how long she'll stick around, she will be part of SmackDown for the Miz-Ryder rematch, so she is doing some business with WWE, at least for now. Vjmlhds (talk) 04:58, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

WrestleZone is an unreliable source. Even it was an RS, the given article also states "it’s unknown at this time whether or not Maryse is back full-time with WWE". She is advertised to accompany Miz at the rematch, but does that really prove that she is signed to WWE? If anything, we have to wait until confirmation from Maryse, WWE, or a reliable source that clearly states that she is signed. "Hey there! How's it goin'?" 05:44, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Assume anyone involved in a match in WWE has signed some sort of contract - they just don't show up. Vjmlhds (talk) 05:56, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Here's a another source - this one saying that it's full time. Vjmlhds (talk) 05:56, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

All of these sources you are providing are unreliable. Please look at WP:PW/Sources. My point I'm trying to make is that this page on current WWE personnel shouldn't involve Maryse because she is not under contract. Many wrestlers make sporadic appearances, or are possibly signed to WWE but don't perform. Maryse, to current knowledge, is not under contract whatsoever and shouldn't be included in this page. "Hey there! How's it goin'?" 06:04, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

I don't think WWE will formally announce the re-signing of Maryse, so I propose that we wait until she makes further appearances. As of now, I agree that she should not be listed on the page. Still, no competitor status for Lana. One match. Same amount of matches as Jim Ross and Lilian Garcia. Even Terri Runnels had more matches and she was not considered a competitor. Stop assuming and look at the current stats. DantODB (talk) 06:21, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Here's yet another report about Maryse - this one saying that she'll be a semi-regular. I agree with DantODB about one thing - WWE won't just come straight out and say they've signed Maryse to a contract (just not how they do business), but given that she will be on SmackDown, it looks (at first glance anyway), that her and Miz are gonna do the "power couple" gimmick, so I highly doubt this was just a "one-shot deal". Vjmlhds (talk) 15:45, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

I understand where you're coming from. But as DantODB said, we can't use "first glance" assumptions, but we have to use the facts and perhaps wait until any confirmation appears, not from WWE, but from Maryse or a proven reliable source. "Hey there! How's it goin'?" 16:01, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Given the fact that an established wrestler has returned to WWE and has immediately immersed herself in a storyline (something that has happened a million times in wrestling) - I'm not seeing where the debate is coming from. She ain't working for free you know. Vjmlhds (talk) 16:23, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

SmackDown could be Maryse's final appearance. She could make further appearances. We still don't know. All of this is speculation. Look at the current facts. She has one appearance scheduled. After this, we'll reevaluate. DantODB (talk) 18:10, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

My thoughts exactly on SmackDown possibly being her last appearance. Again, we must look at the facts. I agree to wait until further appearances before concluding her signing with WWE. "Hey there! How's it goin'?" 18:33, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Now things are making sense, as it turns out Maryse came back to be part of the next season of Total Divas, so she will be around for awhile. Vjmlhds (talk) 22:25, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Definitely a good thing to mention that. Knowing that the source isn't a proven reliable source, we should still wait it out until anything else is said from more reliable sources. Other appearances other than SmackDown could lead somewhere, but it's best we wait until a clear confirmation. "Hey there! How's it goin'?" 01:33, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

I agree. If Maryse is going to appear on Total Divas, WWE will most definitely be confirming it by posting a statement. Otherwise, the E Network will. DantODB (talk) 01:41, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

NXT Tapings Debut and WWE.com's Superstars page Notes.

Mandy Rose is listed in the NXT filter of WWE Superstars (also listed is Shinsuke Nakamura whom debutted at NXT Takeover: Dallas. However, Austin Aries; Tommaso Ciampa and Johnny Gargano are still not listed on WWE's Supersatars page under the NXT filter (or even under the All Superstars filter for that matter) though we know that these 3 are regular members of the NXT roster and should be listed. Interestingly, Rhyno is still listed in the NXT filter of WWE's Superstars page despite being listed here on List of WWE personnel in the part of Ambassador/Legends section.

No Way Jose debutted for the NXT TV Roster in the April NXT TV Tapings. 94.8.206.153 (talk) 12:06, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Brie Bella

Just so there's no confusion Brie Bella hung 'em up at WM 32.

It just won't be publicly acknowledged until it airs on Total Divas in a few weeks, but she is officially done.

Vjmlhds (talk) 14:58, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

She is still under contract. Until official announcement, leave her in the female wrestler section. After 30 days, we'll render her inactive. After 90 days, move her to unassigned section. DantODB (talk) 18:11, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Lana and Maryse II

Lana and Maryse should not be listed as competitors as of now. The Total Divas casting does not constitute competitor status. Let us all look at the facts that say that Lana has only wrestled one match. She is probably going to be a full-time competitor. Probably, being the operative word. The fact is, she is not, as of now. It could change. We just have to wait it out. Regarding Maryse, she is only advertised to appear as Miz's manager. She is not a competitor. Regardless of what her wrestling background is, she is not a competitor as of now. This could be a situation that's similar to how Mickie James returned to TNA for one match. It could also be a situation where Maryse will be back wrestling full-time. Either way, she is not wrestling as of this time. DantODB (talk) 23:51, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Here's the thing - you are assuming Maryse will only be a manager when her background says otherwise. This right now this second thinking is very flawed, and that is what leads to disputes. We live in an age of multitasking, where people are doing numerous jobs at once. That is why to strictly list Lana and Maryse as "other personnel" is wrong. Lana is starting to wrestle, and Maryse has a clear background as a wrestler and has been back a total of one day - so to just toss her into "other personnel" when her track record clearly shows she is an honest to God wrestler is extremely short sighted. You can't just be in the moment - you have to see the big picture. I'd rather the information be in such a way where we have some flexibility, rather than so rigid that we go round and round. There's nothing out there that says Maryse is strictly there to be Miz's manager. You have to give yourself some breathing room, and not lock yourself in so tightly. Vjmlhds 9talk) 00:12, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Open invitation for a third voice to settle the issue...Lana and Maryse - on the roster or not? And remember, it is documented that Maryse will be part of the new season of Total Divas, so she will be around awhile. Vjmlhds 9talk) 00:27, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

I'm not assuming that Maryse will only be managing. I'm saying that as of now, that's what her role is. You are the one that's assuming that her background will mean she will play a certain role. Again, mere speculation. "Lana is starting to wrestle, and Maryse has a clear background as a wrestler and has been back a total of one day - so to just toss her into "other personnel" when her track record clearly shows she is an honest to God wrestler is extremely short sighted." – these are full of assumptions. Lana is starting to wrestle, let's say that. We've only seen her in one match. You're also suggesting that the on-air personnel is lower than competitors, which is not the case. Their roles are their roles. No one is beneath anyone and not wrestling does not constitute a lower-tier status in the company. It is what it is. "I'd rather the information be in such a way where we have some flexibility, rather than so rigid that we go round and round." – it is not about what you prefer. It is about the facts. Rigidity, as you call it, maintains a concise article that reflects present time. "There's nothing out there that says Maryse is strictly there to be Miz's manager." – There's nothing saying that she will wrestle, either. We only have the fact that she is going to be in Miz's corner on SmackDown and on Total Divas. It is not a matter of whether they belong on the page, it is a matter of their current roles in the company. DantODB (talk) 01:32, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

It really has to come down to straight facts and the fact is there are no proven reliable sources to Maryse's affiliation/signing with WWE. The source given by Vjmlhds about Total Divas isn't a proven reliable source. As I said before, we must wait until a clear confirmation from a proven reliable source. I'll let anyone else have another voice for Lana's situation. But, we cannot use assumptions and we can't use a "right now this second thinking". Simply look at the facts and make sure it is proven by a reliable source. "Hey there! How's it goin'?" 02:18, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Maryse has updated her Twitter bio, and is now calling herself a "WWE Superstar". So if the girl herself is saying she's in (and using "Superstar", and not "Diva", so it's current) I think it's as good of source that there is...what's better than it coming straight out of the horse's mouth? Vjmlhds (talk) 04:27, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

OK - now that I think we can put to bed the debate of if Maryse is "officially" back or not (since she herself basically confirmed it on her Twitter page) - the question is how to list them...as wrestlers (based on Lana starting to wrestle and being part of BAD & Blonde, and based on Maryse's track record) or as "other personnel" (based on Lana only just now starting to wrestle, and Maryse not wrestling right now this second) I say add them to the roster, DantODB says other personnel. Anybody want to break the stalemate? Vjmlhds (talk) 04:43, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Again, you're rendering the other on-air personnel as lower than competitors. The other on-air personnel is part of the roster in the same capacity as the competitors are. Lana is not "starting to wrestle." She wrestled one match and has not been advertised to wrestle more. We don't know what her wrestling future is. As of now, she is not a full-time competitor. Maryse is not advertised to compete, either. As I said, it could be a Mickie James in TNA situation, or it could go the complete opposite. Either way, as of this time, she is Miz's manager. DantODB (talk) 05:07, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Looking at the fact that she wrestled in the past wouldn't necessarily mean she would obviously be listed a wrestler. From my knowledge, Maryse isn't a wrestler anymore (since 2011, maybe 2012?) and seems as if she isn't going to wrestle again anytime soon. As for Lana, I wouldn't mind her being listed as a wrestler, but also agreeing to what DantODB stated on how her future as a wrestler is uncertain after wrestling that one match. "Hey there! How's it goin'?" 05:41, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

I asked for a third voice, and I got one. The opinion went against me here, but in a similar situation on the TNA article, it went in my favor. You win some, and you lose some...such is life. I'll respect the opinion of the third voice - consider the issue dropped. Vjmlhds (talk) 13:58, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Legends/ Ambassadors

Sting - Steve Borden Sr. should be listed in the Ambassador/ Legends table, as he is now a WWE Hall Famer/ Legends

Shane McMahon

As long as Shane is on the WWE.com roster, he should be listed here, and as a wrestler.

He really doesn't have a defined role - he's not an authority figure (him running Raw last week was a one-time deal), and when Shane is around, he usually wrestles a good bit (and/or jumps off something really high), so him being listed as a wrestler would be accurate.

Vjmlhds (talk) 21:03, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Kendrick

Hi. Do you think Kendrick stills in WWE? I mean, we don't have any source about him as NXT trainer (As far as I know, he only trained Eva Marie). Also, Kendrick appeared twice in Ring of Honor, on TV. He appeared at Final Battle and the next day, he had a televised match. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 22:34, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

I'd dump him. Vjmlhds (talk) 23:17, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Adam Rose and his first WWE Wellness Policy violation.

Found news of Adam Rose’s first WWE Wellness Policy violation.

Back in May 2014, Adam Rose was suspended for 30-days. Source: http://hollywoodlife.com/2016/04/16/adam-rose-konnor-suspended-wwe-failing-drug-test-wellness-policy/

Is HollywoodLife a credible source?2.221.192.205 (talk) 12:02, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 April 2016

I believe Liv Morgan is now on the TV Roster 118.92.233.25 (talk) 08:13, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 15:17, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 April 2016

You have real name for Stonecold Steve Austin as Steve Austin but that is incorrect, his name is Steven James Williams Nod3million (talk) 09:51, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

 Not done as explained in the Stone Cold Steve Austin article he was born Steven James Anderson - Arjayay (talk) 12:08, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 May 2016

spelling error under the male roster list Ryback is listed as inactive because of contact dispute, should be contract dispute CaseyH334 (talk) 05:16, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

 Done Thanks for pointing that out - Arjayay (talk) 07:16, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Brand Split in 2016

There is talk of the the brand split could return this year. There is no word yet on when the Draft will be held but it is thought that might be before SmackDown goes live on the USA Network on July 19th. If the Brand Split truly returns later this year should we keep the WWE roster how it is currently but add Raw and SmackDown into the Superstars's notes or revert to having a table for Raw and table for SmackDown? 2.222.35.142 (talk) 12:00, 26 May 2016 (UTC)