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Hi again Ëzhiki,<br>
Hi again Ëzhiki,<br>
Thought you might wish to respond to [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Country subdivisions/Naming#"Subdivisions of C" articles|this query]] &ndash; apologies if this page already on your watchlist. Best wishes, [[User:David Kernow|David Kernow]] 01:00, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Thought you might wish to respond to [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Country subdivisions/Naming#"Subdivisions of C" articles|this query]] &ndash; apologies if this page already on your watchlist. Best wishes, [[User:David Kernow|David Kernow]] 01:00, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

== Hello Ezhiki ==
Could you please support our request in here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages (Belarusian - Orthography Revision of 1959). Thank you! -- [[User:82.209.xx.xx|82.209.xx.xx]] 09:31, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

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Archived talk: 2004 2005 2006

Kashin map

I have uploaded a map of Kashinsky District to show the location of Kashin. However, the map is in Russian. Can you help me find a map in English? --GoOdCoNtEnT 20:38, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Try looking here. The maps there are neither recent nor pretty, but at least they are in public domain.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 20:45, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There is no Kashin/Tver Oblast/Kashinsky District map available there. --GoOdCoNtEnT 20:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, not even as a part of a bigger regional map? Try asking JFMorse then; I know he's got bunches of maps; perhaps he'll be able to help you out. I can probably find you some more Russian maps, but I don't really have anything readily available in English. If I stumble upon anything accidentally, I'll surely let you know, and I'll try looking something up if JF doesn't have what you need.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 20:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:DP violation by an admin

...do you know where can I complain about admin rights abuse? All these ArbCom pages are really a bureaucratic mess. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 21:41, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They are a bureaucratic mess, but they are the only place where you can officially log a complaint against an admin. You can also make an informal complaint, by posting to either WP:AN/I or to WP:RFC (but not to both at the same time). If neither AN/I nor RFC appeal to you, I can help you with the technical side of the arbitration process. Please note, however, that arbitration cases tend to drag for quite a while. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:32, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Now multiple admins violated. So an RFC on one person is IMO not the right thing, too much work. Can one make a RFC on multiple admin conduct? Tobias Conradi (Talk) 11:32, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I know of no RfC clause that would prevent you from filing an RfC against as many users as you want. It would probably be preferrable that such an RfC is related to a certain dispute, or a series of similar disputes, though.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 18:56, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

St. Petersburg nbsp tag

As far as I know, there isn't a way to create a non-breaking space without using the tag. My point was that it doesn't seem necessary and clutters up the editing space. If there's a particular reason for putting it there, I didn't think of it. Dbinder (talk) 01:46, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for your response! The purpose of the non-breaking space in this particular case is to prevent a situation when "St." remains at the end of one line and "Petersburg" wraps to the next line. It looks very disruptive to a reader when it happens, and, of course, there is no way to predict whether or not it will happen or not. Please note, that WP:MOSNUM, for example, specifically advises to use the non-breaking space between the numbers and the units of measurements. "St. Petersburg", of course, has nothing to do with MOSNUM, but the situation is very similar, and so is the purpose. Considering that the links to St. Petersburg are usually piped ("[[Saint Petersburg|St. Petersburg]]"), it is already confusing enough to a total newbie. More experienced editors, on the other hand, would normally be perfectly aware what a non-breaking space is.
Hopefully I was able to convey my approach. I realize that this is hardly a major issue, but I felt that I should have explained anyway. Thanks!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 17:16, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wikipedians who use userboxes for statistical reasons

maybe you like Category:Wikipedians who use userboxes for statistical reasons, I use the template now. I am not a big fan of user boxes, but if it helps in statistics it's good. So I will maybe deploy more in the future. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 11:29, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but no, thanks. "Statistical reasons" sounds as a great reason for userboxes, but it is fundamentally flawed. Unless all Wikipedians are mandated to use userboxes for "statistical reasons" (an unlikely event), the statistics gathered this way is bound to be mostly, erm, useless. Plus, I am not that excited about a possibility of adding (yet another) bright yellow userbox to my already too bright userpage :)—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 18:53, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NC (city names) -> settlements

Bolshakovo

Bolshakovo your review welcome. interwiki ru? improve my english... Tobias Conradi (Talk) 21:02, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I did what I could. There is no corresponding article in ru-wiki, by the way. Also, what is "Elch lowland"? I couldn't find any reference to it.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 22:00, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
de:Elchniederung - dolina. :-) Tobias Conradi (Talk) 22:10, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, Elk Valley (Losinaya Dolina)! Got it. It's a part of the larger Polessk Lowland anyway.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:17, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

iso 15924

ISO 15924 v ISO 639-3 - Template talk:User cyr, Category talk:User cyr Tobias Conradi (Talk) 19:52, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thought it might be easier for you to look it up... can you check if Heixiazi/Bolshoy Ussuriyskiy is a part of Khabarovsky Krai or the Jewish Autonomous Oblast? Google Earth seems to suggest the JAO, but Google Earth really isn't the most authoritative source. Thanks in advance. -- ran (talk) 16:49, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Ran! It's a part of Khabarovsk Krai, not JAO.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 16:52, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Summons

I doubt you'll ever get to encounter this elsewhere, but you might want to add Administrative divisions of Tuva to the list of exceptions. "Sumon" here is correct, "summon" isn't. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 21:09, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah. Thanks for the note, and sorry for messing up the article. I've added it to my exceptions. Out of curiosity, do you know why they spell summons differently in Tuva? Cheers, CmdrObot 21:15, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Commander! Thanks for taking care of it. As a matter of fact, they don't spell summon (a verb) differently in Tuva; the word sumon (a noun with one "m") is simply a transliteration from Russian/Tuvan "сумон" and has no relations to the English verb whatsoever. "Sumon" is a variation of sum, a unit of administrative division. Hope this satisfies your curiosity :))—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 12:24, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Adminship

Hello. I was just wondering if you would accept if I would nominate you for adminship. Cheers. - Darwinek 13:04, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry. I haven't noticed you already are an admin, this is probably because of that heat around. Now I must clean that smashed egg from my head. :). - Darwinek 13:09, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Happens to the best of us :) Thanks for the vote of confidence, though.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:52, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for the welcome. Interesting project you got here. Seems like it could be useful. Heard a little bit of bad press a while back, but I hope that's all taken care of now. I look forward to spending some time fixing some little things. Cya. --Ali'i 13:34, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome. Don't worry about bad press too much—whatever a project is, it is bound to receive bad press at the certain level of maturity. Cheers.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:52, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Moscow Metro

Remember when I asked you to lock the article, well the dispute continued into an RfC, since you had some involvement, maybe you can give an outside opinion on the matter.--Kuban Cossack 00:48, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I might join in a little later. Thanks for keeping me updated.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:52, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Пара вопросов

Ёжики, я тут работаю над статьёй о Википедии (аспирант типа), хотел бы вам пару вопросов задать вне ВП, например по емайлу, или как вам удобнее. Как можно было бы с вами связаться? Я yuri(at)sims(.)berkeley(.)edu. Qaramazov 07:03, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Would this be sufficient? abakharev 07:09, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
[Wikimail is indeed the best way to reach me for this kind of inquiries. Thanks.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:52, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cyrl

There is an ISO 15924 conform userbox Template:User Cyrl now. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 15:18, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the update.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:52, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ëzhiki,

...I have moved Territories of Russia back to Krais of Russia. The issue of renaming krais to territories and oblasts to provinces had been previously considered and the community decided not to make the switch.

Thanks; as I've just noted at WP:CfD, I didn't realise I'd wandered into an area where the consensus is/was to use non-English terms. Apologies!

I'll provide you with links a bit later.

No need, but thanks for offer.

If you still feel the current usage is inadequate, I suggest you list all involved articles at WP:RM.

I would say that if non-English terms are to be used, then for the sake of consistency (and education) the correct non-English plurals should also be used. Hence I'll be requesting moves to Kraia of Russia and Oblasti of Russia respectively – unless these should be Kraya of Russia and Oblasty of Russia or something else...?  (Also, subyekty or subyekti or something else...?)  Thanks, David Kernow 13:55, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the response, David. I know you said not to bother, but since I already dug two links, here they are, if only for curiosity sake:
These, especially the second, might be very useful for reference, so I'm grateful to have them; thanks.
As for using the non-native plurals, I'd have to disagree. The word "oblast", for example, while comes directly from Russian, can be pluralized as "oblasts". Merriam-Webster (and, by others' accounts, a host of other dictionaries) actually has an entry for this word, and it lists both variants of plural (oblasts and oblasti) as acceptable in English. Surely, "oblasts" sounds more intuitive to native speakers? Plus, it would involve a lot of work to change all instances of "oblasts" to "oblasti", with only a marginal benefit (if any). "Oblast", "krai", and "okrug" are all listed in the English section of my English-Russian-English Oxford dictionary (I don't have other reference handy at the moment, but I can check other dictionaries later), so they must be acceptable in English and subject to English grammar norms as well.
Please let me know what you think. Thanks!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:11, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Understood. I'm not a crusade for non-English words to use their non-English plurals; it's just my first thought when I come by such mixed instances. I'm more interested in the bigger picture, not least for the sake of this which should soon see more light of day; I've been checking through it as best I can and at present have reached Sri Lanka, though putting Russia and a couple of other more complicated situations to one side. If you have a moment and can scan, spot and amend any errors that must (still) be within, I'd be very grateful (again!). Yours, David 14:55, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
PS Re Tobias, yes, he's helped me understand some of the issues involved in national administrative subdivisions (do you think that name describes the topic accurately?) and as with yourself above I'll be asking him to cast his eye over the above.
This is quite interesting; thanks for asking me to review it. Unfortunately, I can't really offer you much input on administrative divisions of countries other than Russia—I'm too narrowly specialized, I'm afraid.
As for the term "national administrative subdivisions", I am kind of uneasy with the "subdivisions" part. I usually prefer just "administrative divisions", although even in case with Russia it's hard to avoid using the term "subdivisions" altogether (Subdivisions of Russia, for example, describes some non-administrative divisions, such as economic regions, as well as administrative ones). I realize, however, that while we had plenty of critics advocating to abandon this term, all of them failed to propose an adequate replacement. I guess we'd just have to wait for an insight :)
Anyway, thanks for your responses and tips. I'm sure we'll eventually bump into each other on another occasion again :) Of course, should you have any questions about Russian administrativia, you are always welcome to contact me—I'll do my best to help. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:20, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I too am uncertain about "divisions" vs. "subdivisions" but for the time being am using the latter as "division" is itself a translation for a type of (sub)division and thus far I haven't found the same for "subdivision"!  Once I've finished working through the table as best I can, however, I'm planning to throw this query open – plus the question of whether or not "(sub)divisions" ought to be qualified in the kinds of articles you mention, e.g. "Administrative (sub)divisions of Russia" vs. the current "Subdivisions in Russia", to allow "Political (sub)divisions" or "Electoral (sub)divisions", etc. First, though, I'm aiming to release the table for general comment and proofreading.
Here are a few more links about Russia's administrative structure...
...I give these to you is because I reviewed the Russia's line in your national administrative subdivisions list and found some subtle inaccuracies which these links should address.
Thank you very much; as mentioned above, I'm only too aware that Russia is one of if not the most complex case as regards (sub)divisions and it was my attempt to start sorting out its entry in the table that led me to make the abortive CfD proposals earlier (yes, forgetting to check for any relevant talk-page history first!). With the links etc you've supplied I feel more confident that I'll find the information I'll need to reach a completed entry, but will let you know if I hit any impasses and/or when I think the entry is complete. Thanks again, David 15:56, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hej guys. I think we should work on the Wikipedia:Naming conventions (country subdivisions) . So we avoid that a next persons comes and want to re-do all the naming. Well he can come, but would be nice if we can give him the reasons why the stuff currently is as it is. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 18:10, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Tobias!  I agree, although in this case Ëzhiki has supplied me with relevant pointers in lieu of my not remembering to check for past discussion etc. As above, I'm aiming to complete a pass through the National administrative (sub)divisions table before (a) moving it into the encyclopedia for anyone to correct and/or develop; and (b) catching up on the issues of consistent, coherent naming. Hope that's okay for now. Yours, David 23:01, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
PS Are you (both) aware of this, which seems to be one example of the task in hand...?
The municipalities dispute does indeed seem to be a bit overblown. I suppose now isn't a good time for me to show up with perpetual Russian overcomplications, is it? :) The thing about Russian municipaities is that while many of them match the territories of the underlying administrative divisions, quite a few are formed on the basis of several administrative divisions. This, in effect, creates a parallel but not identical structure, which serves a different purpose. English Wikipedia at this time does not even mention Russian municipalities, and I bet it's gonna stay that way until I finally write the Russian municipal reform article, which has been on my to-do list for, ahem, ever. As if it weren't enough, not all of the municipalities have yet been formed as the reform is still ongoing. Those that have been formed are routinely challenged in courts. I hope knowing this added another bit to your undoubtedly already bright view on the state of administrative affairs as seen from the other side of the Russian border. :)—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 01:35, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well, to state what I guess you, Tobias and everyone else interested in national (sub)divisions already know, when there are 200+ countries' worth of (sub)divisions to consider at any one moment, something's bound to be unsettled somewhere!  I note, for example, that changes are also imminent or underway in Denmark, Portugal, probably DR Congo, etc, etc. Another potential "clashpoint" I imagine you've noticed is between cities, towns, villages and the like as administrative units vs. as physical man-made entities (for want of a better description). As the former, their articles would be "Cities of...", "Towns of...", etc to follow the pattern used by other articles on (sub)divisions; but as the latter, some folk – and perhaps Wikipedia's current conventions? – promote "Cities in...", "Towns in...", etc. I'm confident, though, that it's possible to work toward a consensus that accomodates this and the other loose ends. Yours, David 11:06, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mithgol's Urine

Не мог бы ты, как администратор, снять пометку db-empty со статьи Mithgol's Urine, пожалуйста? Пометку поставили, когда там было два предложения, с тех пор её уже расширили. --Vlad Jaroslavleff 17:45, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Это шутка или как? Какая такая моча? Пометку я сниму, но статью, не обессудьте, поставлю на AfD. Не надо, пожалуйста, превращать русский сегмент английской Википедии в аналог свалки на Википедии русской. В чём смысл этой статьи? Неужели этот неологизм уже настолько распространён, что должен быть всем известен? С уважением,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 17:57, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Хм, а по какой причине её удалили? --Vlad Jaroslavleff 18:04, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
CSD A1. И то верно. На AfD у неё шансов вообще ноль, только время переводить.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 18:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Но как это нет контекста? Там была ссылка на ленту.ру, например. Потом бы и изображение добавили. Это феномен, его нельзя упускать из виду для энциклопедии. --Vlad Jaroslavleff 18:10, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
А мне, извините, вчера удалось пукать непрерывно в течение двадцати минут — про этот феномен тоже прикажете статью написать? Прессу я вам организую; знакомые журналисты у меня есть. Что касается контекста, спросите у удалявшего админа, что он имел в виду. Если он чего-то недопонял, то статью я вам с радостью вам восстанавлю, но дорога ей всё равно будет на AfD.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 18:19, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ну если ты считаешь, что Lenta.ru - это такой ресурс, где можно написать всякий бред с помощью знакомых журналистов, то я в тебе начинаю прямо разочаровываться :( Про пуканье твоё никто не напишет, а про мочу Мицгола - напишут. Мы же не первично пишем статью, а по имеющимся источникам. Можешь проверить в том же яндексе русский запрос "моча мицгола".
Да, пусть большинство найденных источников - блоги. Но ты же не будешь, надеюсь, заявлять, что блоги - это тьфу? После истории с Reuters и подлогом фотографий Ирана? Блоги - это тот же новостной и обозревательный ресурс, действующий, правда, намного оперативнее обычных и даже интернет-СМИ. --Vlad Jaroslavleff 18:30, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Я вам очень советую изучить процедурный вопрос, в частности Wikipedia:Reliable sources и Wikipedia:Notability. В первой, например, очень хорошо рассказывается именно про блоги и про то, когда их использовать можно, а когда не стоит. В общем и целом вы обнаружите, что требования к источникам в английской википедии значительно отличаются от требований в русской. Ни Мицгол, ни его моча энциклопедического интереса в данный момент не представляют.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 18:38, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Autonomous Oblasts of the Soviet Union

Hey Ezhiki. Thanks for the tips regarding the "Autonomous Oblasts of the Soviet Union" template. I have corrected the mistakes. Tell me what you think. -- Clevelander 19:16, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I think that the template now provides the majority of these articles' contents. Time to expand them, don't you think? ;) Anyway, thanks for taking care of that.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 19:19, 23 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jaroslavleff and Mithgol

Dorogoy Yozhik, nu razve mozhno tak vezhlivo obraschat'sya s trollyami i kormit' ih filet mignon'om? S glubokim uvazheniyem, - CrazyRussian talk/email 13:00, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mozhno. I believe in a non-violent approach to troll genocide :)—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 13:32, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mayo

Et tu, Brute? Please, reconsider.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 13:49, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reconsider what? Translating - or asking? - CrazyRussian talk/email 13:50, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Translating, of course. It's funny, yes, but hardly encyclopedic. Not a lot more encyclopedic than Mithgol himself, I'd say.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 13:52, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Adm. divisoins of Moscow: 123/124

It's from the official site of Moscow government: [1]

ТЕРРИТОРИАЛЬНОЕ ДЕЛЕНИЕ ГОРОДА

Территориальными единицами города Москвы являются районы (123) и административные округа (10), имеющие наименования и границы, закрепленные правовыми актами города Москвы.

About upravas. Uprava is the governing body in raion (e.g. Управа района Измайлово). So there should be bijection between them and raions. --87.251.146.100 14:10, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. The "Administrative divisions of..." series of articles is based on the most recent edition of OKATO, so even when an administrative district is abolished, there's bound to be a delay until OKATO (and then the article) is updated. This is to ensure compliance with Wikipedia's verifiability policy, as well as to maintain consistency among articles on administrative divisions of all Russian federal subjects. I would be willing to accept a Moscow Government document that abolished Kitai-gorod district for an alternative source, but I am having a great deal of trouble locating such a document. The total number of districts on the official website isn't really a good source, as Russian official websites are notorious for their inaccuracy. If you could provide a link to a document dealing with Kitai-gorod, that'd be much appreciated; if not, I'm afraid we'd have to wait for an OKATO update. Best wishes,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:06, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Сколь я понял, района Китай-Город не существует уже несколько лет. Во всяком случае, число 123 постоянно с 2002 г. ([2] и далее отчёты по годам). Также район отсутствует на сайте ЦАО [3]. На сайте [4] можно найти упоминание ТЭОС Китай-город (нормативные документы, поиск по словам Китай-город в названии). На сайте ГУВД г. Москвы [5] упоминается ОВД ТОС Китай-город. ru-Wiki пишет (статья Центр Москвы), что К-Г входит в состав р-на Тверской. Видимо, статус ТОС в составе района Тверской и есть текущий статус. Что касается неотменённого кода ОКАТО, видимо, это никому не нужно: [6] просто не упоминает его. Так что ждать его изменений можно очень долго...--87.251.146.121 14:57, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to reply in English, because this topic might be of interest not to just you and me. Feel free to reply in either Russian or English, depending on which you feel more comfortable with.
Yes, I understand that the wait can be quite long. Some of the errors in OKATO have been there for years—some eventually got corrected, some did not. The problem is, none of the websites you cited above actually says that "Kitai-gorod district was abolished on such and such date"; they simply omit it from the list. As the district covered the area with no permanent residential population to begin with, the omission is quite understandable (especially for tax purposes, or from the municipal (as opposed to the administrative and territorial) divisions point of view), and such omission does not necessarily mean that the district no longer exists. I am still trying to locate a document that would coherently explain what really happened to the district and what its current status is, but so far I've been unsuccessful. When a district is abolished, finding appropriate documentation is usually very easy, but it's not so in this case, which leads me to believe that the situation is more complicated than "the district ceased to exist, period". If you manage to find any applicable document, directly dealing with Kitai-gorod's status (as opposed to just omitting it from some kind of a list), I would appreciate if you share it with me. This is a very weird situation that needs resolution and that really got me intrigued. Thanks for bringing it to light, and let's get to the bottom of this.
By the way, would you consider creating an account here? The benefits are numerous, and it would make it a lot easier to converse with you. Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:24, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It seems that К-Г has never been a raion. It was a territorial unit with a special status (TEOC, Территориальная единица с особым статусом), later territory with a spec. stat. (ТОС, Территория с особым статусом). See [7]. Territory described here mostly belongs to Тверской raion, except of a small "appendix" Знаменка-Крестовоздвиженский-Воздвиженка of Арбат raion (as these raions pictured in my Москва современная. Атлас города. ООО Атлас-принт, 2005). Document mentioned above has many amendments (you can find it on the same server). I think I'll create an account soon and then post it's name for you.--87.251.146.73 16:12, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Again me. See Закон о территориальном делении города Москвы (Закон № 13-47, от 05.07.95 95-31 and later editions) Постановление Правительства Москвы О РЕОРГАНИЗАЦИИ АДМИНИСТРАЦИИ ТЕРРИТОРИАЛЬНОЙ ЕДИНИЦЫ С ОСОБЫМ СТАТУСОМ "КИТАЙ-ГОРОД" № 479-ПП, от 24.06.03) on the same site [8]. I think that current status of К-Г is the following. It is a territory defined in law (on ТЕОС К-Г, 1996). The Управление К-Г Префектуры ЦАО have some power on this territories. But this territory belongs to raions Арбат and Тверской.--87.251.146.122 17:11, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

[[Image:Luli.jpg]]

Привет! Случилась ерундовая проблема, но нужен систоп чтобы её решить. Я загрузил в своё время поверх файла указанного выше (нечаянно конечно), женщину просящую подаяние. Как её убрать оттуда и перенести в файл с другим именем? И чтобы оба этих файла не удаляли? А то я вроде загрузил первуб версию файла в [[Image:Luli children.jpg]], но их за что-то удалили :). Хотя точно такую же картинку в файле [[Image:Luli.jpg]] не трогали... Не поможешь? --Wiki 20:25, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Сорри, отбой, с люлями сам разобрался... :) --Wiki 20:30, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Кстати, нет ли человека, готового помочь с Tatar cuisine, которая просто переведена роботом с русского раздела? Тема-то уж больно вкусная. Все татарские названия я потом и сам поправлю, как они пишутся на английском, но вот собственно с кулинарным английским мне вовек не разобраться! --Wiki 20:25, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Звиняй, но с кулинарией у меня у самого проблемы :) А уж с этническими кухнями и подавно.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 20:35, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Жаль... :) --Wiki 20:41, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Сдал статью на доработку на портал "кулинария"... Кстати, где у нас deletion log? А то кто-то удалил статью про татарского президента, даже не написав мне ничего в обсуждение... Даже не пойму кто.. такая вот проблема..--Wiki 15:44, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help with Komarovo article

Hey! Thanks a lot for your help and the new template! :) I have grown up in Komarovo and wanted to write about it for a long time. I will probably be adding some of my own pictures to the article a little later... Vlad b 21:23, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, thank you for the great job you did translating (I assume) the article from the Russian Wikipedia! Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 21:28, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Notability

shouldnt we make a link to Notability at our talk pages? To see how the article gets deleted and recreated? Tobias Conradi (Talk) 05:18, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Subdivisions of..."

Hi again Ëzhiki,
Thought you might wish to respond to this query – apologies if this page already on your watchlist. Best wishes, David Kernow 01:00, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Ezhiki

Could you please support our request in here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages (Belarusian - Orthography Revision of 1959). Thank you! -- 82.209.xx.xx 09:31, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]