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::Sorry if I wasn't clear. I agree that MEDRS isn't terribly relevant to historical medicinal uses. But I removed the part related to historical medicinal uses because it wasn't referenced at all. MEDRS clearly applies, in my opinion, to the content I removed that claimed "a degree of confirmation" for its use as birth control and the unreferenced claim which "could explain this effect". If there is a good source ([[WP:RS]], not necessarily [[WP:MEDRS]]) that can be found that supports the claim of wild carrot's former traditional use as birth control, I'm fine with adding that part back in. But any claims related to wild carrot's effectiveness in such a use definitely needs MEDRS-compliant sources. [[User:Deli nk|Deli nk]] ([[User talk:Deli nk|talk]]) 15:30, 14 March 2013 (UTC) |
::Sorry if I wasn't clear. I agree that MEDRS isn't terribly relevant to historical medicinal uses. But I removed the part related to historical medicinal uses because it wasn't referenced at all. MEDRS clearly applies, in my opinion, to the content I removed that claimed "a degree of confirmation" for its use as birth control and the unreferenced claim which "could explain this effect". If there is a good source ([[WP:RS]], not necessarily [[WP:MEDRS]]) that can be found that supports the claim of wild carrot's former traditional use as birth control, I'm fine with adding that part back in. But any claims related to wild carrot's effectiveness in such a use definitely needs MEDRS-compliant sources. [[User:Deli nk|Deli nk]] ([[User talk:Deli nk|talk]]) 15:30, 14 March 2013 (UTC) |
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:::Fair enough. I've seen a number of similar edits to plant articles (where non-MEDRS compliant citations are deleted, and uncited/poorly cited historic uses were taken out in the process), and wanted to speak up. I'd like to see the historic uses in the article, but don't usually have the patience to find an RS myself (searches for historic uses usually turn up an overwhelming number of half-baked herbalism pages that I wouldn't consider RS, much less MEDRS).[[User:Plantdrew|Plantdrew]] ([[User talk:Plantdrew|talk]]) 16:56, 14 March 2013 (UTC) |
:::Fair enough. I've seen a number of similar edits to plant articles (where non-MEDRS compliant citations are deleted, and uncited/poorly cited historic uses were taken out in the process), and wanted to speak up. I'd like to see the historic uses in the article, but don't usually have the patience to find an RS myself (searches for historic uses usually turn up an overwhelming number of half-baked herbalism pages that I wouldn't consider RS, much less MEDRS).[[User:Plantdrew|Plantdrew]] ([[User talk:Plantdrew|talk]]) 16:56, 14 March 2013 (UTC) |
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== illustrations of plant and leaves == |
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Please add illustrations of the whole plant and the leaves.-[[Special:Contributions/71.174.183.90|71.174.183.90]] ([[User talk:71.174.183.90|talk]]) 18:15, 4 June 2016 (UTC) |
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Merge to Carrot
I suggest that because both article are about the same species (Daucus carota). --Ricardo Carneiro Pires 13:55, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
- Noooo! See my comment on the carrot talk page. Jasper33 07:57, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
- See also: Daucus pusillus
- Not all wild carrots are Queen Anne's Lace, either! 2601:1:9280:155:50E2:8F66:150E:8C49 (talk) 00:44, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
Root picture
I came to this article from the carrot article, hoping to see what the root looked like (to compare to the carrot). Any pictures? Thanks --32.97.110.142 15:59, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
- There's a good picture here: http://trackerofplants.com/2007/10/23/carrots-gone-wild/#comments The photographer gave permission to use the picture here (see the comments right at the bottom), but I don't know what the best way to include this would be. --Korin43 (talk) 23:47, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
seasons and hemispheres
where it says "Daucus carota is a variable biennial plant, usually growing up to 1 m tall and flowering from June to August." it should not name months but season i.e : "7th to 10th week in summer", august is summer for north hemisphere and winter for south. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.136.184.48 (talk) 22:09, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
- Its native range doesn't include the southern hemisphere (as far as I know), but I suppose maybe it is naturalized there? (Cultivated plants are, I believe, covered at carrot not here). I'd probably just say "summer" or "throughout the summer" because these things tend to vary by latitude or by source (my Peterson guide says May to October, for example). Kingdon (talk) 02:50, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
"Uses" section
I removed content from the "Uses" section which relates to birth control because it wasn't sufficiently supported by references. Several of the statements were unreferenced, and the one ref that was used doesn't meet the WP:MEDRS referencing guidelines for medical use claims. The ref was to a poorly written (didn't even spell "Daucus carota" correctly!) 20 year old article in a very low impact journal. Deli nk (talk) 18:07, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not very comfortable with MEDRS being used to justify removal of content related to historical medicinal uses. Careful attention to the language used to describe historical uses is certainly important, so as not to give the impression that these uses have been medically validated. The historical use had been tagged with citation needed for 3+ years, which isn't good, but entire Uses section only has one citation, so should it all be deleted?Plantdrew (talk) 20:03, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry if I wasn't clear. I agree that MEDRS isn't terribly relevant to historical medicinal uses. But I removed the part related to historical medicinal uses because it wasn't referenced at all. MEDRS clearly applies, in my opinion, to the content I removed that claimed "a degree of confirmation" for its use as birth control and the unreferenced claim which "could explain this effect". If there is a good source (WP:RS, not necessarily WP:MEDRS) that can be found that supports the claim of wild carrot's former traditional use as birth control, I'm fine with adding that part back in. But any claims related to wild carrot's effectiveness in such a use definitely needs MEDRS-compliant sources. Deli nk (talk) 15:30, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
- Fair enough. I've seen a number of similar edits to plant articles (where non-MEDRS compliant citations are deleted, and uncited/poorly cited historic uses were taken out in the process), and wanted to speak up. I'd like to see the historic uses in the article, but don't usually have the patience to find an RS myself (searches for historic uses usually turn up an overwhelming number of half-baked herbalism pages that I wouldn't consider RS, much less MEDRS).Plantdrew (talk) 16:56, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry if I wasn't clear. I agree that MEDRS isn't terribly relevant to historical medicinal uses. But I removed the part related to historical medicinal uses because it wasn't referenced at all. MEDRS clearly applies, in my opinion, to the content I removed that claimed "a degree of confirmation" for its use as birth control and the unreferenced claim which "could explain this effect". If there is a good source (WP:RS, not necessarily WP:MEDRS) that can be found that supports the claim of wild carrot's former traditional use as birth control, I'm fine with adding that part back in. But any claims related to wild carrot's effectiveness in such a use definitely needs MEDRS-compliant sources. Deli nk (talk) 15:30, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
illustrations of plant and leaves
Please add illustrations of the whole plant and the leaves.-71.174.183.90 (talk) 18:15, 4 June 2016 (UTC)