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== Discretionary sanctions notice == |
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{{Ivm|2=''This message contains important information about an administrative situation on Wikipedia. It does '''not''' imply any misconduct regarding your own contributions to date.'' |
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The Arbitration Committee has authorised [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions|discretionary sanctions]] to be used for pages regarding the [[Arab–Israeli conflict]], a topic which you have edited. The Committee's decision is [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Palestine-Israel articles|here]]. |
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Discretionary sanctions is a system of conduct regulation designed to minimize disruption to controversial topics. This means [[WP:INVOLVED|uninvolved]] administrators can impose sanctions for edits relating to the topic that do not adhere to the [[Wikipedia:Five pillars|purpose of Wikipedia]], our [[:Category:Wikipedia conduct policies|standards of behavior]], or relevant [[Wikipedia:List of policies|policies]]. Administrators may impose sanctions such as [[Wikipedia:Editing restrictions#Types of restrictions|editing restrictions]], [[Wikipedia:Banning policy#Types of bans|bans]], or [[WP:Blocking policy|blocks]]. This message is to notify you sanctions are authorised for the topic you are editing. Before continuing to edit this topic, please familiarise yourself with the discretionary sanctions system. Don't hesitate to contact me or another editor if you have any questions. |
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== 500/30 issue == |
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Hi. I see that you are participating in articles that concern the Israel-Palestine conflict. There was a rule passed in November of last year that says that everyone who edits that subject must have at least thirty days' experience and at least five hundred edits: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Palestine-Israel_articles_3#500.2F30 Here] I don't know if this means you must withdraw your AE filing against Opdire; my guess is that it does not. Generally, one violation does not cancel out someone else's However, if this was a good-faith mistake, you should establish a non-anonymous account and take at least a month to build your reputation on Wikipedia through productive edits. This isn't a formality. It helps new users learn the ropes and rules in places where the consequences for accidentally breaking them aren't as dire. Good luck. [[User:Darkfrog24|Darkfrog24]] ([[User talk:Darkfrog24|talk]]) 17:49, 22 February 2016 (UTC) |
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:Hello 104.162.193.17. As an IP editor you are banned from editing ARBPIA articles such as [[Eilabun massacre]] and [[Arab Higher Committee]]. Please cease. You are risking a block. Come back with a registered account after satisfying the 500/30 rule. Thanks, [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) 17:40, 23 February 2016 (UTC) |
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== Blocked for continuing to edit ARBPIA material with an IP == |
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<div class="user-block" style="min-height: 40px">[[File:Balance icon.svg|40px|left|alt=]]To enforce an [[Wikipedia:Arbitration|arbitration]] decision you have been '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]]''' from editing for a period of '''72 hours'''. You are welcome to edit once the block expires; however, please note that the repetition of similar behavior may result in a longer block or other sanctions. <p>If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the [[Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks|guide to appealing blocks]] (specifically [[Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks#Arbitration enforcement blocks|this section]]) before appealing. Place the following on your talk page: <!-- Copy the text as it appears on your page, not as it appears in this edit area. --><span style="font-size:97%;">{{tlx|unblock|2=reason=Please copy my appeal to the [[WP:AE{{!}}arbitration enforcement noticeboard]] or [[WP:AN{{!}}administrators' noticeboard]]. ''Your reason here OR place the reason below this template.'' ~~~~}}</span>. If you intend to appeal on the arbitration enforcement noticeboard I suggest you use the [[Template:Arbitration enforcement appeal#Usage|arbitration enforcement appeals template]] on your talk page so it can be copied over easily. You may also appeal directly to me ([[Special:EmailUser/EdJohnston|by email]]), before or instead of appealing on your talk page. <hr/><p style="line-height: 90%;"><small>'''Reminder to administrators:''' In May 2014, ArbCom adopted the following [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures#Standard provision: appeals and modifications|procedure instructing administrators]] regarding Arbitration Enforcement blocks: "No administrator may modify a sanction placed by another administrator without: (1) the explicit prior affirmative consent of the enforcing administrator; or (2) prior affirmative agreement for the modification at (a) AE or (b) AN or (c) ARCA (see "Important notes" [in the procedure]). Administrators modifying sanctions out of process may at the discretion of the committee be desysopped."</small></p></div><!-- Template:uw-aeblock --> Per [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Category:Black_September_Organization&diff=prev&oldid=706511549 this edit of a category related to the Arab-Israeli conflict] you are blocked three days. I had previously given you a warning with [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:104.162.193.17&diff=706499002&oldid=706318328 this message]. Thank you, [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) 19:46, 23 February 2016 (UTC) |
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:Since you resumed editing of [[WP:ARBPIA]] topics after the last block expired, I have now blocked you for three months. If you disagree with this block, the instructions for appealing an AE block are those given in the template above. Thank you, [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) 18:08, 3 March 2016 (UTC) |
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{{unblock reviewed|reason=I edited an article that didn't have anything to do with the conflict. Is every single article relating to Israel somehow considered part of the conflict? [[Special:Contributions/104.162.193.17|104.162.193.17]] ([[User talk:104.162.193.17#top|talk]]) 18:15, 3 March 2016 (UTC) |
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|decline=You edited a category related to Black September. Quoting the article about it: {{tq|The Black September Organization (BSO) (Arabic: منظمة أيلول الأسود, Munaẓẓamat Aylūl al-aswad) was a Palestinian terrorist organization founded in 1970. It was responsible for the fatal kidnapping and murder of eleven Israeli athletes and officials}}. If you claim that BS is not part of PI conflict, sources disagree with you. Let me remind you of the [[WP:ARBPIA|relevant decision]]: {{tq|All Arab-Israeli conflict-related <s>articles</s> pages, broadly interpreted, are placed under discretionary sanctions}}. Just don't do it. [[User:MaxSem|Max Semenik]] ([[User talk:MaxSem|talk]]) 18:58, 3 March 2016 (UTC) |
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[[User talk:MaxSem|MaxSem]] That's not the block he's referring to. He was blocked for that and released from that block already. Did you not wonder why he's requesting to be unblocked from something two weeks ago? [[User:Sir Joseph|Sir Joseph]] <sup><font color="Green">[[User_talk:Sir Joseph|(talk)]]</font></sup> 19:07, 3 March 2016 (UTC) |
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Thank you and exactly, this is from 2 weeks ago, I am clearly referring to the wine article I edited. [[Special:Contributions/104.162.193.17|104.162.193.17]] ([[User talk:104.162.193.17#top|talk]]) 19:37, 3 March 2016 (UTC) |
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{{unblock reviewed | 1=Once again requesting that I be unblocked for editing an article, about wine, which has nothing to do with the conflict. The previous administrator, who "reviewed" my request, referred to another article I edited 2 weeks ago, which has nothing to do with this unfounded block. There is no clear guideline for what goes under the Israel/arab conflict, especially if an article about wine now falls under that category. [[Special:Contributions/104.162.193.17|104.162.193.17]] ([[User talk:104.162.193.17#top|talk]]) 19:41, 3 March 2016 (UTC) | decline = Nice try at deflecting from what the real issue is, [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sir_Joseph&diff=prev&oldid=708051121 asking someone] to edit via proxy is the same as making the edit yourself. <small style="color:#999;white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:lightgrey 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">— [[User:Coffee|<big style="color:#ffa439">Coffee</big>]] // [[user talk:Coffee|<font color="#009900">have a cup</font>]] // [[Special:Contributions/Coffee|<font color="#4682b4">beans</font>]] // </small> 22:31, 3 March 2016 (UTC)}} |
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You must be joking. Show me where asking someone to edit is the same as editing. [[Special:Contributions/104.162.193.17|104.162.193.17]] ([[User talk:104.162.193.17#top|talk]]) 23:58, 3 March 2016 (UTC) |
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{{unblock reviewed | 1=Again requesting to be unblocked. First request was met with someone who erroneously referred to a previous edit from 2 weeks ago, second was confronted by someone who is inventing rules and claims asking someone to edit is tantamount to editing. I was blocked for editing an article about wine, which had nothing to do with the conflict, other than the fact that it has the word Israel in it. I did not contest the previous block, because it actually fell under the category of [[WP:ARBPIA]], but this one is totally unwarranted, which is compounded by the fact that people have to fabricate rules to justify it. [[Special:Contributions/104.162.193.17|104.162.193.17]] ([[User talk:104.162.193.17#top|talk]]) 23:58, 3 March 2016 (UTC) | decline = As this is an arbitration enforcement block, this is not the correct avenue to request a change. No administrator can unblock you unless ArbCom or a decision at [[WP:AE]] says you can be unblocked. Please note the enforcement action procedures on this page for the previous block; the same rules apply here. I'll repost the required procedure here since you seem [[WP:COMPETENT|lack the competence to do so yourself]]: <code><nowiki>Place the following on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Please copy my appeal to the [[WP:AE|arbitration enforcement noticeboard]] or [[WP:AN|administrators' noticeboard]]. Your reason here OR place the reason below this template. ~~~~}}</nowiki><code> <small style="color:#999;white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:lightgrey 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">— [[User:Coffee|<big style="color:#ffa439">Coffee</big>]] // [[user talk:Coffee|<font color="#009900">have a cup</font>]] // [[Special:Contributions/Coffee|<font color="#4682b4">beans</font>]] // </small> 01:04, 4 March 2016 (UTC)}} |
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*'''Administrative reminder''': In May 2014, ArbCom adopted the following [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures#Standard provision: appeals and modifications|procedure instructing administrators]] regarding Arbitration Enforcement blocks: "No administrator may modify a sanction placed by another administrator without: (1) the explicit prior affirmative consent of the enforcing administrator; or (2) prior affirmative agreement for the modification at (a) AE or (b) AN or (c) ARCA (see "Important notes" [in the procedure]). Administrators modifying sanctions out of process may at the discretion of the committee be desysopped." <small style="color:#999;white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:lightgrey 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">— [[User:Coffee|<big style="color:#ffa439">Coffee</big>]] // [[user talk:Coffee|<font color="#009900">have a cup</font>]] // [[Special:Contributions/Coffee|<font color="#4682b4">beans</font>]] // </small> 01:07, 4 March 2016 (UTC) |
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:*Requesting someone else to make an edit on your behalf is referred to as [[WP:PROXYING]]. In my opinion, this is a ban violation. You will get the same impression if you read the language of [[WP:TBAN]]. At the time I issued the block, I wasn't aware that the IP had toned down his edits from February 22 and 23. The original edits were were quite blatant and appeared to be mostly reverts of other editors on I/P articles. (A dozen reverts on February 22 and about the same number on the 23rd. About half of all his edits were reverts, sometimes twice on the same article, such as {{cat|Temple Mount}}). The edits since my original 72 hour block were also in violation, but not so obvious. There is at least the chance of a good faith misunderstanding. But before lifting the block I would need to be assured that: |
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::#That this editor won't edit I/P articles, |
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::#Won't try [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sir_Joseph&diff=prev&oldid=708051209 persuading others to proxy for him] |
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::#Not use terms like 'Muslim provocateur' to refer to other editors (same link) |
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::#That he'll stay away from gray areas such as [[Palestinian wine]], and |
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::#That he will cease stalking others who disagree with him such as [[User:Opdire657]], whose edits he reverted at an unrelated article, [[Government of Indonesia]]. |
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::#Cease leaving [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Opdire657&diff=prev&oldid=708109315 templated messages about disruptive editing] for people you are in a routine content dispute with, such as [[User:Opdire657]] |
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::The [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Palestinian_wine&diff=prev&oldid=708056328 change the IP tried to make from 'Canaan' to 'Israel' in the Palesinian wine article] looks to be POV-pushing and contradicts the original Egyptian source (from about 1500 BC) which refers to Canaan. Though it's not the same as falsifying a direct quote, it's quite a stunt to change the name of a country when making a paraphrase. It does fit with the pattern of the IP's previous edits which were exclusively to tilt articles in favor of the Israeli side. [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) 03:04, 4 March 2016 (UTC) |
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