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Period of the exodus

Expanded, as well brief reference to the foibe entered in the lead. Discussion about those modifications welcome.--Silvio1973 (talk) 16:18, 8 February 2015 (UTC) @Director, I do not understand why you consider the section describing the exodus from Zadar as POV. The insertion is very well sourced. Can you list the reasons of your disagreement about the insertion of the followig section of text?[reply]

The first city to see a massive departure of ethnic Italians was Zadar. Between November 1943 and Zadar was bombed by the Allies, with serious civilian casualties (fatalities recorded range from under 1,000 to as many ad 4,000 of over 20,000 city's inhabitants). Many died in the carpet bombings, and many landmarks and centuries old works of art were destroyed. A significant number of civilians fled the city. In late October 1944 the German army and most of the Italian civilian administration abandoned the city.^[1] On October 31, 1944, the Partisans seized the city, until then a part of Mussolini's Italian Social Republic. At the start of World War II, Zadar had a population of 24,000 and, by the end of 1944, this had decreased to 6,000.^[1] Formally, the city remained under Italian sovereignty until September 15, 1947^[2] (Paris Peace Treaties) but by that date the exodus from the city had been already almost total. --Silvio1973 (talk) 09:07, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Director, removing sourced text without a reason is vandalism. If you think the insertion is POV please discuss here. Without any discussion I have no option but rolling back. Please start to discuss and explain the reasons of your disagreement. Silvio1973 (talk) 08:28, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Director, to show good faith I have removed this edit. Please can you tell us what's wrong with it and propose an alternative formulation? Silvio1973 (talk) 13:23, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Director, can you please join the discussion and tell us why you contest this edit. Without an answer from your side I will reinstate the edit. And of course feel free to roll it back but please explain us what is wrong with it. Silvio1973 (talk) 17:19, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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^ ^a ^b Begonja 2005, p. 72.
^ Grant, John P.; J. Craig Barker, ed. (2006). International Criminal Law Deskbook. Routledge: Cavendish Publishing. p. 130.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: editors list (link)

What is in dispute?

Can anyone explain what the recent disagreement is about? It seems that User:Silvio1973 and User:Director got into a dispute over at WP:DRN that caused the request there to be closed with no substantive action. If the parties will join in an WP:RfC or other discussion, it can be worked on here. But if personal antipathies prevent them engaging in negotiations, the possibility of page bans under WP:ARBMAC might be considered. EdJohnston (talk) 04:58, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I do not understand what the disagreement is about. My edits have been rolled back but in spite of my multiple requests I did not get an answer. Silvio1973 (talk) 07:46, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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[FOOTNOTEBegonja200572-1] Begonja 2005, p. 72.

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