User talk:SwisterTwister

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturals_Ice_Cream

You mentioned that the above mentioned article will be deleted within a week because it didnot have any credible reference apart from Hindustan Times. I have added new more credible references (Economic Times, Times of India, Business Today and Indian Express); even external links have been added for the same (other wikipedia articles). Do let me know if any further enhancement needs to be done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aditya.mishra.ace (talk • contribs) 06:30, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Kea ho

I see you prodded Kea ho which in fact is a duplicate article of Kea Ho. Wgolf (talk) 04:17, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Personal Filing Cabinet

I added additional citations to reliable sources as required for Personal Filing Cabinet, Anuraag Singh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anuraag Singh (talk • contribs) 06:16, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Wildago

Are there specific sources that should be removed/changed or do you think the article itself should be removed from Wikipedia? I want to comply with the protocols and appreciate your guidance. Polqa (talk) 06:41, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Redirect Cis-Kuen Lun Tract to Trans-Karakoram Tract

The Cis-Kuen Lun Tract is the same as the Trans-Karakoram Tract which I have edited extensively! You wanted sources. The Times Atlas link which shows the depiction of the northern border of Kashmir is the source! The map displays an enclosed area in northern Kashmir with the caption "Undefined Frontier area". The area encompassing the caption "Undefined Frontier area" is the Cis-Kuen Lun Tract. It is the same thing as the Trans-Karakoram Tract. The only difference is that the while the Trans-Karakoram Tract extends from the Karakoram Range northwards to the Kuen Lun Range, the Cis-Kuen Lun Tract extends from the Kuen Lun Range southwards towards the Karakoram range in central Kashmir. View the Times Atlas map of 1954 which depicts the northern border of Kashmir on the watershed of the Kuen Lun Range on the Taghdumbash Pamir, Mariom Pamir, and the Raskam range or ridge and depicts the caption "Undefined Frontier area" below it extending towards the Karakoram range and the Chhogori Peak K2 but not actually touching K2 as even the Times Atlas did not consider the K2 peak to be disputed. Nor did the Times Atlas consider the Shaksgam Valley disputed for that matter as can be seen in the 1954 map published by the Times Atlas.I am adding this because there is a concerted effort to restrict the Trans-Karakoram Tract to the Shaksgam Valley which is clearly erroneous and not borne out by records!Even the official map published by the The Government of Pakistan depicting the alignment of the northern Border of Kashmir in 1962, depicted much of the Cis-Kuen Lun Tract as part of Kashmir and the alignment published by the Government of Pakistan predominantly was similar to and coincided with the portrayal of the northern Border of Kashmir in 1954 by the Times Atlas which had predominantly depicted the Cis-Kuen Lun Tract as a part of Kashmir under the caption "Undefined Frontier area" though at places, the official position of the Government of

Map depicting the official alignment of the northern border of Kashmir in 1962 according to the Government of Pakistan

Pakistan deviated from the position of the Times Atlas and the Government of Pakistan even depicted areas as part of Kashmir which were to the north of the border of Kashmir as published in 1954 by the Times Atlas! Also for an idea of the extent of the Trans-Karakoram Tract or the Cis-Kuen Lun Tract, please view this map (C) from the Joe Schwartzberg's Historical Atlas of South Asia at DSAL in Chicagowith the caption, "The boundary of Kashmir with China as portrayed and proposed by Britain prior to 1947". The geographical and territorial extent of the Trans-Karakoram Tract or the Trans-Kuen Lun Tract is more or less the territory enclosed between the northern most line and the innermost lines! Also if one were to look for sources or references for the Trans-Karakoram Tract on the internet, the only references would be the articles on Wikipedia and no other. So there!

Hence I request you to redirect Cis-Kuen Lun Tract to Trans-Karakoram Tract and then there will be no need for a separate article titled Cis-Kuen Lun Tract. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.51.31.23 (talk) 07:45, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

10:30:49, 10 May 2016 review of submission by Nairji

• Nairji (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Gitanjali Sinha (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello David,

Thank you again for your review and the feedback. Appreciate it.

With complete regard and due respect to your judgement I would like to put my argument forward to reconsider the declination because the citations and links provided are from some of the leading publications in India. And moreover the links / references submitted are not "passing comments" about the subject, most of them are dedicated interviews given by her in main-line media (print as well as television) and these television channels are in top 10 channels based on the popularity as well as the viewership when it comes to entertainment segment in India.

Requesting you to re-look at it, the references and links have been kept very specific and the selected sources are notable from a geo-specific popularity viewpoint.

Looking forward to a response from your side.

Thanks and best regards, Nairji (talk) 10:30, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Anthony Jakobs

Reviewing Anthony Jakobs you spend less than 60 seconds and chose to tag it with {{notability}} using Page Curation in Previous revision of Anthony Jakobs. To me the article with sentences like

Jakobs has gone through multiple aliases including Antonio Cabreja, Anthony Jako, and West Jaco, before deciding on Anthony Jakobs. He's stated that Anthony Jakobs is simply the most professional and flows the best.

reeks of 14-year old writing his WP:AB, and I can't find a single thing that, to me, sounds like a credible claim of significance. Which do you find is a CCS?

Another thing I would have done prior to tagging with {{db-person}} would have been to remove this entire section

Personal life

Jakobs identifies as bisexual, having had publicly come out on April 10, 2016. In the same video he revealed that he's been in a relationship with photographer Tyson Leon-Guerrero since February. Jakobs has also publicly talked about his struggles with having Obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD) and Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).

pursuant to WP:GRAPEVINE and obviously disregarding a post such as this. Why did you leave it in? Sam Sailor ^Talk! 11:47, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Missed the above? Sam Sailor ^Talk! 12:39, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Sam Sailor No I have not, I saw it the first time, I saw the article the first time and I would've Speedied but imagined someone would remove as 'significant'. I Speedied it now but it was also removed, ha! We'll at best have G4 now for later. Cheers, SwisterTwister talk 15:14, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

But I asked you two questions, and you only sort-of replied to one.

(a) Why would you as a NPPer avoid A7 tagging with the argument that "(I) imagined someone would remove as 'significant'" if at the same time you say that "I would've Speedied"?

(b) Your reply to the BLP violation is anticipated.

Sam Sailor ^Talk! 21:02, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

FWIW, again, I actually speedied it earlier today but it was removed. In case you've haven't noticed, Sam Sailor, several speedies and PRODs are roughly removed recently and several of mine included (*ahem* Adam9007 *ahem*), who seem to think even the slightest thing sometimes (for his example a listed filmography or discography) is a claim of significance. Looking again now, I would've taken my chances and gone with the speedy or PROD if needed. I hope this answers your question and we can resolve this thread. Cheers, SwisterTwister talk 22:51, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Yes, naturally your A7 of the article today was removed, as we are in the middle of the consensus driven part of DELPRO at AfD. Basic stuff.

Frankly, it does not make much sense to me what you are saying, yes, CCS is not written in stone, but in this case there is f*ck-O (US en: not a g*ddamn) CCS.

You still dodge the BLP violation. It is difficult to imagine, that you would not be aware of it, if you had seen it. Does that mean that you simply did not read the whole article before tagging?

Sam Sailor ^Talk! 23:07, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Sam Sailor I looked at the article but I still would not have been surprised if the tag had been removed given the apparent filmography and discography. It's certainly a useless article and is best tagged, I'm an advocate of tagging articles regardless of AfDs if it certainly still applies like this case. Easier for everyone and also AfD which has enough nominations as it is. As it is, I encountered an article a few moments ago that was controversial so I have simply tagged the hell out of it. Cheers, SwisterTwister talk 23:19, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

In the less than 60 seconds you spend on the article, it seems highly unlikely that you should have had time to dig into the so-called "filmography". I also find it unlikely to think that a diligent NPPer would have fallen prey to this empty fluff.

The so-called "discography" was not present at the time you tagged it, so I'm not sure why you mention it. I hope that other editors than myself would hover over the songs and quickly conclude that the discography is another attempt to fool the superficial curator, e.g. subject had nothing to do with Justin Bieber's "Love Yourself" or any of the other four songs mentioned.

Until now nobody has reported a CCS was present in Anthony Jakobs, but since you mention Adam9007 as a user who "roughly removes speedies", why not ping him, and ask his opinion?

I take note that you disregard DELPRO when you state that I'm an advocate of tagging articles regardless of AfDs.

As for the BLP violation that you did not catch and still do not comment on: I urge you to spend much more time on actually reading articles that you intend to curate.

Sam Sailor ^Talk! 00:08, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

@SwisterTwister: Can you give us some examples please? I don't recall ever saying that merely having a filmography or discography is a claim of significance. It's much more likely it had something to do with one or more of the songs/films in them (such as the subject playing a major role in a notable film which happened to be on the filmography). Adam9007 (talk) 01:07, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Sydney Glaciarium

Hi, I got a tag from you for a reference improvement for the article on the Sydney Glaciarium. Before removing the tag you applied I thought I'd point out that absolutely every section of content on that article is in fact referenced and also every reference is from a major national newspaper. Newspaper articles from the time period, citing an event that took place in that time period, are about as credible a source and high quality a source that you can get ... I completely disagree that the credibility of the references need to be improved and do beg you to acknowledge national newspaper articles from the given time period as being one of the most credible references possible. I purposely try to not use reflective articles, written about an event years after the fact. I am happy to discuss this further with you if you still do not agree that articles written for national newspapers by first hand witnesses to the event, at the time the event occurred, are a credible reference.

How I would improve this article on the historic Sydney Glaciarium is not credibility of the references, but the quantity of information on the article itself. Something I am in the process of doing and in the very spirit of the wiki - hope others do too. Orion 2012 (talk) 12:42, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

People Against Bureaucracy

I've added several more sources to People Against Bureaucracy since you came by. Are there enough to warrant removing the insufficient sources template? Maswimelleu (talk) 14:11, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Zabdiel De Jesús

Looks like the page Zabdiel de Jesus is also a redirect, which the page Zabdiel De Jesús basically is the same guy! Wgolf (talk) 00:22, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

00:46:37, 11 May 2016 review of submission by Lx3h

• Lx3h (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Charged Hong Kong (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Dear SwisterTwister, thanks for your second rejection and 3rd from Wiki's editor team as it allows me to provide even more references from international coverages of Charged Hong Kong despite the fact that it is a year old. There are now 56 references and they are either critically important to the development of the officially registered charity in Hong Kong or simply highly notable such as Forbes, Bloomberg, Reuters, CNBC, BBC, International Business Times, etc. Just to name a few. I have also written the article according to the Wikipedia's "guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:The_answer_to_life,_the_universe,_and_everything, which states that "Articles generally require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the topic." As far as anyone can tell, age of the organisation as the reason you have repeatedly rejected my article on, in this case on Charged Hong Kong as a registered charity doing good things to the world advocating clean air through electric vehicle adaptation, does not appear in any sense as a specific requirement and prerequisite by Wikipedia as a reason for rejection of article submission. What's more, using 'age' of a person, an organisation and particularly for a registered charity to judge its influence to the world is immature and unprofessional. Simply because by naming a minimum age requirement to be worthy of an article on Wikipedia, there will be thousands of counter-examples on Wikipedia.

Hello SwisterTwister. I'm a very new Wikipedia contributor. Not even beginning to be an editor. Earlier this month I added an article about Joseph McCormackMD. Today, I wanted to start an article about his son Arthur T McCormack but somehow instead of putting it in my sandbox, I put in somewhere for all the world to see. I'm just about finished with it, but in the meantime, I'd really like to understand what changes you made so I'll better know how to write in the future. Plus, I've got some questions about things that aren't working correctly and would love it if someone like you could help me through the sweet spots. Drvalsummers (talk) 01:42, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

06:56:53, 11 May 2016 review of submission by Pyounger

• Pyounger (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Dion Lee (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Good evening,

Thank you for taking the time to review my application. Can I include these additional news articles in the external links area or do these need to be referenced throughout the text?

Kind regards,

Phoebe

Thank you

I've created a few new pages recently and it always seems to be you that patrols them. Thank you for your tireless work! All the best, Dubbin^{u | t | c} 10:12, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Delete as nothing all for any applicable notability

I have added some citation link to Promo Direct page. Kindly review Susan (talk). —Preceding undated comment added 10:35, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

new source in swedish

I ve added an article in swedish about the cuba project. there is more in swedish out there, that should be added by swedish speakers. Question, the commercial/fashion work does not count for notability ? thank you (Meridian00 (talk) 14:32, 11 May 2016 (UTC))

Rohan Ali and removed PROD

Hi, sorry about removing the prod. I didn't even notice I had. Probably an edit conflict as you said. The page author had taken Wgolf and me through a couple rounds of adding fake refs and removing a BLPprod so I was coming to the conclusion that AfD was for the best as it is harder to game (ie you can't kill it just by removing the tag). I'm glad the article is gone now anyhow. Happy Squirrel (talk) 15:09, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Catholic Bishops' Conference of Japan

Please see its talk page. Deus vult! Crusadestudent (talk) 18:34, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

About Du Dang (NuckleDu)

Du Dang also known as NuckleDu is a well known name in the Fighting Game Community. He has a Team Liquid sponsorship, has won many tournaments, and is a recognizable villain for his excessive taunting. He is getting plenty of coverage from mainstream eSports sites. He's also the best Street Fighter player in the Florida region and is considered one of the best SF players of the younger generation. Ask Valoem, Prisencolin, or NeoChaosX and they will all say yes. Thank You for your cooperation. ULTRA-DARKNESS^{:) 2 CHAT} 19:00, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Team Liquid is among the largest esports sponsors, being apart of it certainly means he is a professional. Valoem ^{talk contrib} 19:09, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Help me

Dear David!

I am user Valery Surkoff. I created a page dedicated to musician Dmitry Polyakov. You checked this page, but many users cast doubt on this page and want to delete it. Can you help in this question and what can I do for save this page.

User:Valery Surkoff —Preceding undated comment added 19:46, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Valery Surkoff Hello, he's currently still questionable for the applicable notability, WP:Notability (music), you need to still add any additional amount of sources such as news, anything that is in-depth and third-party. Please also see WP:Referencing for beginners. If you want, you can also request this be userfied to your own userspace, away from mainspace. SwisterTwister talk 20:13, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

email.

please check.Etimena (talk) 20:11, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

On the Wight

Hi, I note from the relevant activity log that you 'reviewed' this article (which I created earlier today). Can I ask what your opinion was of it? I ask mainly as it has been Speedily Deleted under criteria which I do not believe apply. Please see User talk:RHaworth#On_the_Wight for details. I would be interested to know whether your 'review' ended in a judgement for Speedy Deletion (and if so, why), or if RHaworth simply reached this view themselves. Thanks, --Peeky44 _{What's on your mind?} 21:47, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Deletion review for On the Wight

An editor has asked for a deletion review of On the Wight. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. --Peeky44 _{What's on your mind?} 08:12, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Articles

Hello. I think it's the same articles: Qadeimah and Al Qadimah. The same location. Can you help with it?--27century (talk) 22:37, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Thanks for reviewing Connor Flegal, SwisterTwister.

Unfortunately MrX has just gone over this page again and unreviewed it. Their note is:

I'm not sure why this was marked as reviewed. It's utter nonsense.

To reply, leave a comment on MrX's talk page.

MrX I'm not sure I understand, I tagged it as speedy, why unreview it? SwisterTwister talk 01:45, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

According to the history, you didn't tag it at all. I did, however, tag it for speedy deletion as vandalism. - MrX 02:02, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

MrX I suppose my click of "Save" never went through. Cheers, SwisterTwister talk 02:03, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

OK, that explains it.- MrX 02:35, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Aftab Group Issue

Hi,

ref: www.wikipedia.org/wiki/aftab_group

i made an article on Aftab Group of Bangladesh, where i had my internship few years back. And now have no relationship with them. (So no chance for any interest conflict)

However i found that the article has been nominated for deletion.

I know that my article is not very very informative for a big group of business like aftab group.

but i sense their presence should be on wiki.

Please do not delete my article at once rather help me out in retaining the same, as i am new as a writer on wiki..

Thanks

Moushum Ahmed — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imcdhaka (talk • contribs) 06:02, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

About ADFiL Corporation

Hi,

You are not from Butuan do you? Do not delete that ADFiL Corporation article because this is part of "On the Job Training" Program of Father Saturnino Urios University. That article is about construction company in Butuan not yours. Please do not delete that article nor delete my account immediately!!!

SALAMAT KADYAW (Thank You in english) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronald Galope Barniso (talk • contribs) 06:44, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

More about ADFiL Corporation's deletion

If you have an International Passport, go to Butuan and face me. Please do not delete my account and my articles that I created and edited. Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia, not to delete all articles and accounts. Thank you and SALAMAT KADYAW DONG.(dude) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronald Galope Barniso (talk • contribs) 06:51, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: AutoWed

Hello SwisterTwister. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of AutoWed, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: This is quite obviously ludicrous, and this kind of silly stuff is unworthy of an article in a serious encyclopedia, yeah? Reliable sources assert at least some WP:SIGNIFICANCE. WP:AfD candidate? Thank you. Shirt58 (talk) 11:56, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Apologies for the templated speedy deletion decline. This article appears to me laughable, unrelentingly silly, and unworthy of an encyclopedia article. But it appears to have had significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject.

SwisterTwister, long-time colleague and Wiki-friend, your thoughts about this? --Shirt58 (talk) 12:34, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

So Fricken Cute!!! <3

Ravenrene123 (talk) 20:34, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Docathlé2003, Fédération française d'athlétisme, 2003 is an actual book

Hi there,

Thanks for all your reviewing of the French track biops I have been doing.

I just thought I'd mention that the source in many of the articles:

Docathlé2003, Fédération française d'athlétisme, 2003

is an actual 650 page book that the French Athletic Foundation publishes and sells for 20 euros. I just bought a copy over the net last Sunday and I will have the book to check the sources by the end of June.

Endo999 (talk) 21:14, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Hello, SwisterTwister. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

Hanspeterleupp (talk) 21:16, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Speedy deletion tagging of BoChamp

Hello SwisterTwister. You tagged "BoChamp" for speedy deletion, but you did not notify the article's creator that it had been so tagged. There is strong consensus that the creators of articles tagged for speedy deletion should be warned and that the person placing the tag has that responsibility. All of the major speedy deletion templates contain a pre-formatted warning for this purpose—just copy and paste to the creator's talk page. Thank you.Template:Z19. Passengerpigeon (talk) 23:53, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Micks

Looks like you accidently put 2 prod tags on Micks (though its not eligible for a BLP prod) Wgolf (talk) 01:50, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

review of Battle of Mogadishu in Somalia (1933)

What's the point of tagging this as needing sources when it is an obvious speedy candidate? Delta Force was not in Somalia in 1933. They did not even exist in 1933. The Battle of Mogadishu was in 1993 and we already have an article on it at Battle of Mogadishu (1993). The new article even uses the date 1993. I've tagged it for speedy. Meters (talk) 02:21, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Request on 03:47:56, 13 May 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Mirrezd

• Mirrezd (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Mir Abdolrez Daryabeigi (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I already answer your question: If Mr. Daryabeig's art works are permanently collected by major museums?

Public & Private collectors: Tehran Museum of Contemporary Art
The reference is the book (catalogue)Iranian Modern Art Movement
Comment :The Iranian Collection of the Tehran Museum of Contemporary Art, Dryabeigi, pg.112 &113, published in 1385 (2006) by TMoCA(Tehran Museum of Contemporary Art) The book is in Farsi & English. short biography. there are 2 full page images of his work. Mirrezd (talk) 03:47, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Editing conspiracy (probably): User:Staszek Lem and User:Primefac

Dear David!

I want to get your opinion on the following question: Two users (User:Staszek Lem and User:Primefac) actively edit pages Dmitry Polyakov. I had to cancel editing them because they were unfounded (it's my opinion), after 4 times I was blocked. After that, I saw a message in a conversation, look here [[1]] this indicating their conspiracy. What do you think about it? I want to know your opinion?--Valery Surkoff (talk) 06:11, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Valery Surkoff I can assure you they are not conspiring anything and it's simply that your article is still questionable. SwisterTwister talk 06:13, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

SwisterTwister Ok. Thank you.--Valery Surkoff (talk) 06:16, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

GPX Global Systems Inc.

Hi, I restored your PROD tag on GPX Global Systems Inc. after the creator removed it with no explanation when I was working on copyediting the article. Since I restored your Prod the creator removed it again. Not sure what you might want done. fyi Fouetté rond de jambe en tournant (talk) 06:39, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

David, Fouetté rond de jambe en tournant We request you to please call back your nomination for deletion as this page in now way has any promotional content. It was created on the basis of facts collected from articles published on the internet. If you can, suggest us ways to improve the article but kindly do not delete it. Also, kindly remove the Afd Tag our dear request to you!Arnab2803 (talk) 06:54, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Request to keep Seraphim (American Band) page up

I would like to request that Seraphim (American Band) be kept up and not considered for deletion, as they are an established, even if unsigned, musical group. They have worked with higher-class musicians such as Johnny Franck of Attack Attack! and their music is legally obtainable through iTunes purchases.

Proof of Johnny Franck's work with them: http://www.johnnyfranck.com/

• Under selected credits and discography, Seraphim's music is listed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apartion (talk • contribs) 06:43, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Hasty speedy

Hi SwisterTwister. It should not be necessary to say, that we don't tag with A1 and A3 for the first 10-15 minutes after creation. In 粉絲專頁 yours came after only 4 minutes. I posted a {{subst:Welcomeen-zh}} to the new user Merlynjovita (talk · contribs). Sam Sailor ^Talk! 07:08, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Article Review

Hey, You had reviewed the article I had created and mention as I didn't have proper Citations. I have added more citation to the article please let me know how to take of those error messages. Here is the article URL. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Brooks_(musician) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mukundxg (talk • contribs) 08:55, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Article Review for ATP Electronics

Upon your review on April 26, that the article for Draft:ATP Electronics still needed more notability references, I have since then added more notable references to the article. would you kindly assess if the article can moved to public ? Thank you 10:28, 13 May 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by T.L Cheng ( ATP Electronics ) (talk • contribs)

Proper Sources

The sources listed on the Joey Fatts article are very reputable, Vibe Magazine, Billboard, MTVNEWS, XXL Magazine...... I'm not sure how much more credible it gets for a newer artist... He also has an upcoming tour that will give him much more press but I need his wiki up. Please please let me know how I can get this darn thing up because it has already taken up far more time than I allotted for it. Thank you so much for your help! JJBlvcklist (talk) 11:57, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

12:19:48, 13 May 2016 review of submission by BjoernSgav

• BjoernSgav (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Gothaer Group (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello SwisterTwister. Could you please let me know which passages in my submission are still too promotional? It would be a great help. Unfortunately your statement is slightly too generic and I am confused. Thanks in advance! BjoernSgav (talk) 12:19, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

When will you slow down?

In Diff of Me Adarayai you tagged with A7 10 min (9 min 59 sec actually) after creation with the edit summary ???? Over 10 minutes and nothing.......... Why would you tag what a Google search appears to reveal is a teledrama with A7? Sam Sailor ^Talk! 07:20, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Sam Sailor It's not about that, it's simply that the user needs to give reasonable time to at least actually start the article. I firmly comment I'm not interested with any heated comments and criticism. Frankly you may think I tag anything too soon, but knowing everyone else, it's always gets tagged sooner or later. Also, these users are obligated to at least give an reasonably acceptable article, or else restart it when they are set to begin. SwisterTwister talk 07:22, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I can understand you are not interested in criticism. I think there are other more productive ways to content creation in a case like this, e.g. tagging with {{New user article}}. But you again dodge the question: why did you tag with A7 specifically? Sam Sailor ^Talk! 07:28, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Sam Sailor I cordially welcome that you understand, I tagged it because it was applicable for both A3 and A7, no actual context aside from that and then also no significance. Even if there is information, there was enough reasonable time to at least make changes aside from that one action. SwisterTwister talk 07:30, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Is a teledrama eligible for A7? Sam Sailor ^Talk! 07:32, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Care to answer? Sam Sailor ^Talk! 18:49, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

Goodstart Early Learning

I have removed the {{prod}} tag from Goodstart Early Learning, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks!

You spent c. 2 minutes (Diff of Dil Aur Mohabbat → Diff of Goodstart Early Learning) on verifying 8-10 references to secondary sources present before prodding it (Previous revision of Goodstart Early Learning) with the rationale still questionable for WP:Notability (organizations and companies) and WP:GNG.

I don't believe any editor would claim to be able to vet 8-10 refs in 2 minutes. Do you? Sam Sailor ^Talk! 18:49, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

To avoid fragmentation I move your edit made to my talk page:

I simply wanted to note that I'm starting to consider your behavior and comments a bit serious and I hope this is not going to lead to hounding. FWIW, I thought you and I had come to better ground so I hope you're not intent to criticize everything of mine including what Tom29739 says.... No need to respond if you're going to have attitude or sarcasm. 19:00, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
— User:SwisterTwister

— Preceding text originally posted on User talk:Sam Sailor (diff) by SwisterTwister (talk⋅contribs) 19:00, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

The note left on my talk page instead of some straight answers here makes little sense to me. I am not aware that we have been on bad ground, if that is implied. You consider my "behavior" serious with a potential of hounding to it? By all means, if you believe that the awareness I am trying to raise here in regards to your tagging in articles that I happened to come across or, as is the case with Goodstart Early Learning, have edited via Short Page patrol before you, gives you ground to cast aspersions on my "behavior", would you not please take it to AN/I? To me, may I be frank, what you say sounds more like you wish to continue to avoid communication about your tagging.

I do think you should take my comments serious as well as take any other comment left on your talk page by other editors serious. That starts by communicating.

It has been less than a month since your tagging was discussed at AN/I in the thread User:SwisterTwister's reviewing issues. I did not participate. A common view expressed by editors who opposed the proposed restrictions in patrolling was: "This is fixable - he should slow down." One of your replies was: I am willing to change my pace and better examine these articles. But I don't see that is the case in the examples given above. Prodding Goodstart Early Learning looks like it was done on sheer gut-feeling, as any vetting of existing references and a search for sources would have indicated that the article can be sourced and notability verified. To me there are no excuses that can be reasonably made here, it is a simple case of rushing through reviewing and give a hoot about WP:PRODNOM.

Since you bring up Tom29739, your IRC friend (Diff of User talk:SwisterTwister, Diff of User talk:SwisterTwister, Diff of User talk:SwisterTwister, Diff of User talk:SwisterTwister, Diff of User talk:SwisterTwister), I noticed that he turned up on my talk page 49 seconds after you (Diff of User talk:Sam Sailor). My only interaction with Tom has been his 2-minute pile-on delete vote in your ill-prepared AfD nomination Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/FLAVORx. This is just one of four nominations made within minutes of each with very clear Keep outcomes:

• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fred Cray, closed as Keep
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bernardo Gómez-Pimienta, closed as Keep
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lindsey White (2nd nomination), closed as Keep

Do you suggest that any experienced editor would believe you had performed the slightest WP:BEFORE in these four cases?

Among the many kind words of advice given at AN/I was: I would much rather turn SwisterTwister's considerable energy into a force for good without such restrictions. I do think that it's important that he listen to the feedback from other experienced editors and take it to heart.. I fully agree. But if what we witness here is a bad habit pattern, the first challenge is to acknowledge it, and then implement the needed changes to create good habits. Your outright position that

I'm not interested with any [...] criticism

is not helpful in that regard. Sincerely, Sam Sailor ^Talk! 08:23, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

How to make Archive of my Talk page

Hey, Dear SwisterTwister, You have always been very kind, I observe that most of the new articles on Wikipedia I create you are the most and only Wikipedian who reviews my created articles, but here I am asking you for the help regarding y talk page archive. So its requested you kindly tell me how to create the archive of my User talk page and I also request you could you please make archive of my talk page or tell me how to make it. Thanks..--Jogi 007 (talk) 10:58, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Editor's Barnstar

Just a BIG thank you for the support I have received from you in chat on Wikipedia. As a newbie here, I have the utmost admiration for the people here who give their time - extremely generously - to help others, like myself, and tomaintain this amazing free resource - that is Wikipedia. The more I come here, the more impressed I am. There are corporate organisations that pay large wages to people, that don't provide any where close to the service that I have received on Wikipedia, and when you consider that the Wikipedia service is provided by committed volunteers who don't get paid anything, I feel I have to pay my respects and major gratitude to people like yourself. BIG respect and simply Thank You VERY much! Keep up the great work. Monty heath (talk) 15:44, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Good job reviewing the articles on New Pages Feed. Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ (talk) 18:51, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

American Nobility

You have proposed the page I am writing for deleting under what criteria, you know about theme? you wish sabotage? you want win something wiki award?. ..... The page is just creating in these moments and when you did that, you are demonstrating unknowing and disturbing. First I end the page and after you read and critizice, so is the correct method, meanwhile, please abstaint to interfere, no one will pay for that and you could learn something. It is not thrue?

--Siredejoinville (talk) 19:04, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

NPP Copyright

Hi ST! Just an FYI that the Earwig Bot is back online for botful copyright checking of articles that seem too copyrighty. Coren's bot is still offline, so the manual tool is all we have for the moment. Earwig is at: https://tools.wmflabs.org/copyvios/ Thanks! Crow^Caw 19:15, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

references in Kora Boufflert article

Hi there,

I added three references to the Kora Boufflert article, so can I take off the BLP notice.

Endo999 (talk) 21:42, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Request on 00:23:47, 15 May 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Oceandocs

• Oceandocs (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:OceanDocs: Repository of Ocean Publications (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I have tried twice to submit an article on OceanDocs. The second time I followed exactly the format of a similar repository Aquatic Commons which was accepted by Wikipedia. The reviewer still thinks it is an advertisement! I am trying to describe an information product - a global ocean repository hosted by the Intergovernmental Oceanographic Commission (a Unesco agency). I do not see how I can make it acceptable. I do not understand how a description of an ocean information product is an advertisement? Oceandocs (talk) 00:23, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Oceandocs (talk) 00:23, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

This wiki-kitten is here to say thank you for your extensive contributions and activity in the deletion discussions!

_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:27, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

14:47:27, 15 May 2016 review of submission by Bingargiola

• Bingargiola (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Sustainable Scuba Diving (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello,

What other information do you think would be needed in this article? I looked at many different sources, peer reviewed articles, scientific journals - and I cited them all, so I am a little confused about the references. I developed this page as an independent study with my college advisor while taking a scuba diving course. Based on direct experience and what I learned from the research, I believe I created a thorough and complete page. I think it is an important concept and needs to have its own page, not exist within the larger page of just Scuba Diving.

Thank you,

Brendan Ingargiola

Draft comment request

Hi! Since you accepted three of my drafts (Li Yajuan, Lan Shizhang, Liu Xiuhua) could you comment on another one of equal stub quality (Draft:Cai Jun)? It was declined by a different reviewer. Thank you! 93.238.17.57 (talk) 19:29, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Trevor Cornwell

I understand it looks like all the info is coming from Linkedin page, but please note there are at least two reliable sources included in the references, which is all that is needed to qualify the BLP as notable. I am removing your BLP tag and working on adding more notable sources. Thank you for your feedback. Any help would be appreciated. Comatmebro User talk:Comatmebro 23:09, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Randykitty. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Team 1325 Inverse Paradox, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. Randykitty (talk) 01:28, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Hey Randykitty and Jbhunley it seems Ranfy unreviewed this to tag and Jbhunlry PRODed it but you'll see I actually PRODed it so it's unfortunately AfD time now. Nominating it now. SwisterTwister talk 02:12, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Dev Randhawa article

Hi SwisterTwister,

You have reviewed my article for Dev Randhawa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dev_Randhawa) and (I presume this was you) marked it for speedy deletion. The reason given was:

"All still questionable for the needed solid independent notability at WP:GNG"

I looked at the link for WP:GNG and came to the conclusion that the articles sources are problematic? If this is so, do let me know and I'll make the necessary changes - if I have to provide new sources for you to review I'll happily do so.

Thanks,

HomersDoh (talk) 10:22, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

12:43:38, 16 May 2016 review of submission by PeterHunter12

• PeterHunter12 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Daniel Darling (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hey, I have followed the review history for this article and believe I have made the necessary changes. But rather than resubmit it, I thought I would ask you first. Daniel Darling is a significant contributor in the evangelical world whose position at the ERLC representing 16 million Southern Baptists qualifies him as someone "notable." Whoever made these recent edits clearly did not know what they were doing. Based on the edits I made, would you say I have acquired enough independent resources or should I still find my sources? Please advise! Thank you for your help making wikipedia a professional encyclopedia. -Peter

Good Job

Some of the previous pages I created have been patrolled by u,good job bro,I just would like to know y u added citation notification to the jut created one as I have sourced for info for him,I would appreciate if u can assist me on additions citations..thanks Newmusiclisting (talk) 19:06, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Hall Carbine Affair

Hello SwisterTwister,

Thanks for reviewing my article on The Hall Carbine Affair. You tagged it for notability while I was still in the midst of adding material. Could you take another look, and see if you think it might meed the notability criteria based on the information I provided?

The incident is what it is, but I'm sure I could add references ad infinitum, as the incident has been very widely reported and discussed over the years.JerryRussell (talk) 22:34, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Jana Ranjani edition

Let me know (In my talk page) what extra citations are needed for article Jana Ranjani Aaditya Rangan R (talk) 05:13, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

BB Centrum

You proposed this for deletion, and I endorsed it. The PROD was removed on the basis that the article appears in Czech Wikipedia. I opened an AfD. You may want to participate. ubiquity (talk) 19:11, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Request on 19:17:52, 17 May 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Buddroyce

• Buddroyce (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Play Records (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi,

Thanks for taking the time to review my (re)submission. I'm a bit confused because I'm trying to figure out what level of noteworthiness is required? When I look at something like:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinnin%27_Records

They barely have anything at all on there that makes them noteworthy so I'm wondering how did that pass when my entry for Play Record doesn't. Am I missing something important?? Your feedback is greatly appreciated to help me improve as a contributor. Buddroyce (talk) 19:17, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Buddroyce (talk) 19:17, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Tina Dabi - deletion discussion

I wanted to let you know that there's a discussion about whether the article about Tina Dabi should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tina Dabi.

I've notified you as your edit was one of the few contributions to the Tina Dabi article space, other than the article's creator. --Bejnar (talk) 20:31, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Re: Donald Trump's Mar-A-Lago Barack Obama Assassination Plot Investigation

Author removed your PROD, do you think it's worth pursuing an AfD? Even if the subject is notable, the article as it stands now is so full of editorializing that it might not be worth keeping. RA0808 ^talk_contribs 22:45, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

I've decided to be bold and list it at AFD. Appreciate it if you could comment on the entry. RA0808 ^talk_contribs 23:48, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

22:56:10, 17 May 2016 review of submission by RV1348

• RV1348 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Raffaldini Vineyards (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello SwisterTwister,

This article has been declined several times for lack of sources. I provided multiple 3rd party, non local sources that confirm the vineyard's notability and it was declined.

North Carolina wine is a booming industry in the state that has recently attributed to it being also known as the East Coast's Wine Valley. Missouri and other smaller wine states have Wikipedia pages with substantially less credible and notable vineyard pages. The Raffaldini Vineyard is wildly popular, so much so that Obama brought a bottle of wine to the Italian President.

I understand Wikipedia's effort to keep the site credible, but it shouldn't be this difficult to get an article approved with valuable content. How can we work together to get this published?

Below are less notable vineyards and wine states with approved Wikipedia pages:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_wine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._James_Winery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_Hill_Winery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Bourgeois_Winery

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm ArtsRescuer. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, C. H. Atma, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. • ArtsRescuer 09:36, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Swpb. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Tomima Edmark, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. —swpb^T 12:44, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

DataInfosys

Hello Swister.

Please let me know if i have to provide more citations for notability or anything i have to do for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Infosys_Limited AjayDAta 16:12, 18 May 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajaydata (talk • contribs)

This Week Newspaper

Hello David, thank you for reviewing the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:This_Week_Newspaper submission and I'll go through the references one by one to try weeding out the sources that don't fit the the golden rule exactingly. Because the article deals with historic publishing events, my first inclination, rightly or wrongly, was to provide evidence of their existence using documents and images throughout the referencing process. Like the article on "The Independent" newspaper at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Independent, a number of the references used are not entirely independent (sic) in that the sources are The Independent itself and I would welcome your advice on this. Caerhys (talk) 16:36, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

David, I've set up a User:Caerhys page at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Caerhys to query where best to develop this discussion. I'd be grateful for your advice.Caerhys (talk) 15:27, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you

thank you for your contribution in Ritendra Prasad page — Preceding unsigned comment added by IlaisaK (talk • contribs) 19:45, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks and barnstar

Hello SwisterTwister, I would like to thank you for the review on Lemar (supermarket) and I highly appreciate that the page hasn't been nominated for deletion! :)

I really want to give you a barn star but I don't know how to :(

Please tell me and I shall award you with my gratitude.

Thanks again, East Anglian Regional (talk) 20:04, 18 May 2016 (UTC) East Anglian Regional (talk) 20:04, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

Thank you East Anglian Regional I'm always happy to help. For barnstars, see Wikipedia:Barnstars#General_barnstars. SwisterTwister talk 20:26, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thanks for the help you offer on your Talk page. sheridanford 20:25, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

James R. Hansen

Hi SwisterTwister, Could you please take a second look at the article James R. Hansen It was deleted earlier today because of copyright infringement by the original author. I have now trimmed out all the copyrighted material and brought the article down to like a stub status. I plan to cleanup and expand the article from there. If you would decline the speedy I would thank you. Thanks, Fouetté rond de jambe en tournant (talk) 21:08, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. Fouetté rond de jambe en tournant (talk) 08:50, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Clowns in the Sky - The Musical History Of Mystery Science Theater 3000

Hi there i saw that you reviewed this article I recently made and you left the message about reliable sources. Can you please take a look at it again and I changed around the sources a bit. If they are not up to par could you plase maybe help me find more reliable sources than these? --Captain8track (talk) 03:25, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of Petey and Jaydee for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Petey and Jaydee is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Petey and Jaydee (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Toddst1 (talk) 00:19, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	Hi! — Etimena 01:26, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Notability assessment for ATP Electronics

Hi Swister, since our last talk, I have attempted more notability enhancement references for Draft:ATP Electronics, would you kindly assess my article for me ? Thanks T.L Cheng ( ATP Electronics ) (talk) 10:15, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Kiliaen Van Rensselaer redirect

Hello. As someone involved in recent changes to Kiliaen Van Rensselaer you may be interesting in a proposal I've made on the article talk page regarding reverting to the redirect that had been in place since 2005. Thanks for your attention. Gab4gab (talk) 17:52, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Giuseppe Prinzi (1962)

You probably should of checked for similar titles before patrolling Giuseppe Prinzi (1962) last week given the fact that's a birth year in the name-as it turns out the page was previously deleted (found out from trying to move the article) Wgolf (talk) 00:17, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Good morning

Good morning Squints FilmMakers20168 (talk) 03:27, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Request on 17:27:56, 21 May 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Weebuefweebuef

• Weebuefweebuef (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Maureen Selwood (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

We are having trouble getting approval of the image that was deleted. The photographer, Carlos Cazarro sent permission via email. Weebuefweebuef (talk) 17:27, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Weebuefweebuef (talk) 17:27, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

From Anna

Hello, my friend. I'm probably missing something obvious, but has anyone just asked you to maybe work other areas besides reviewing? A lot of people seem to find that you are going too fast or making errors or something. How would you feel about working other areas while watching other reviewer's outcomes to be sure, when you return to it, that all your calls will be acceptable to the community? Starting articles is bags of fun. We could work together on some of that. Thoughts? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:07, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

I review others quite frequently, yes, Anna Frodesiak, all honesty is that I live and breath NPP and I'm rather obsessed. :P Fortunately I work with other areas such as AfD, AfC, etc. I still occupy myself with those puzzles as you may remember. ;) I was about to go to AfD exactly now when I was your message. :P FWIW, I have also planned to particularly perhaps start some genus articles, I've attempted other subjects but they're often always non-notable. :P SwisterTwister talk 00:42, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

(sorry to intrude) Hey SwisterTwister! I don't want you to avoid NPP though, because a lot of the stuff you PROD/CSD turn out to be accurate (and it helps me to find COI editors lol). Maybe you can try reviewing at a slower rate, but you know, I would rather have you reviewing it rather than a random new editor whose motive may be something else. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 04:47, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

And hey, check this out. ;) --Lemongirl942 (talk) 04:52, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Lemongirl942, good point and good suggestion. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:55, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

07:39:51, 22 May 2016 review of submission by FRAXAXSIS

• FRAXAXSIS (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Bela Bognar (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

hello twisted swiss d I've been thinking about contributing to wiki for quite a while now, but I'm really busy. trying to help a friend who's helped me got me started. we're behind this draft artist page bela bognar. I get the rules pretty thoroughly, I'm good with that kind o' thing. I'd love to get in 10 edits & be confirmed but right now seriously involved with a kickstarter or I'm going to have to sell my house which is going into foreclosure. we have a resolution document signed by the members of the los angeles city council recognizing bela, but until confirmed can't upload any images - my friend wants to ask if that doc would help lend notoriety. this user name has email confirmed if there's any way outside of wiki to pass u a copy of that doc - just askin'FRAXAXSIS (talk) 07:39, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi FRAXAXSIS I don't understand. What draft are you talking about? The draft you quoted above has not been edited by you. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 07:55, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Providing References

Hello, As suggested by you, I have provided few more references for the article The Last Raja of West Pakistan (novel), is it sufficient now. --Abhinav619 (talk) 14:55, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

@Abhinav619: Hey! If you don't mind, could you tell us how did you obtain this image? --Lemongirl942 (talk) 15:29, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

@Lemongirl942: This is from the ebook version of the book. Abhinav619 (talk) 17:32, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

@Abhinav619: However, you tagged it as your own work. Unless you own the copyrights, this is a copyright violation (see WP:COPYVIO). I'll take this to your talk page. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 03:15, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

@Lemongirl942: I have reverted out there. Thanks Abhinav619 (talk) 03:37, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

@Lemongirl942: I hope now the issue is completely resolved and you do not have any more issues with it. In case, there is, feel free to raise them. It was a good learning experience on Commons Abhinav619 (talk) 19:10, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

Wicked Weather Watch

In this case, other editors had already added tags yet you still prodded for not particularly clear reasons (your C-P prod justifications are not particularly helpful). This strikes me as clearly WP:BITEy behavior and so is not uncontroversial. I request you either refrain from this or at least use WP:AFD due the potential controversy associated with nominations like this. ~Kvng (talk) 14:59, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Blue_Jays%E2%80%93Rangers_brawl

Good afternoon SwisterTwister, I think that your statement at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Blue_Jays-Rangers_brawl needs to be rewritten. --Jax 0677 (talk) 20:13, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Robert Buntine

Any suggestions how this bio can be saved with so much misinformation being included by deletionists? Castlemate (talk) 23:04, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

About delation of North African Arabs article

Hello Sir David
This article is created by some pan-arabists his name is alhaqiqa
This person vandalized many times the berbers article and also he commented on the articles for deletion to save his article so i deleted his comment
The North African Arabs article is created to abuse berbers and to distorting facts
In a section of this article "Berberisation and Berberised Arabs" they write Racism in North-Africa !!
There is an article "Arabs" so there is no need to create another article
I realy want your your opinion
This is his comment on the debate
"Keep Be Aware! This page is put up for deletion by a Berberist which has deleted many important information of many good pages on wikipedia about arabs. I already blocked AyOuBoXe of the page because he has deleted much reliable information without any sources or explanation. This is just a childish act of a North-African Berber which is playing games on Wikipedia and trying to remove the history of North-African Arabs. "
I removed this comment because it's his article .
My greetingsAyOuBoXe (talk) 01:05, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Replied here --Lemongirl942 (talk) 03:11, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

P S Surana

Hi David

Thanks for your response to my query about article on Shri P S Surana. Could you assist in reframing the article? Also, would you suggest that I upload the same as draft and get suggestions and then move ahead with final?

Justchillz (talk) 05:46, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Bot Clarification Needed

First, thank you very much for your help with an article. My question now about the same one found at [2] is about the bot's Clarification Needed notice. I believe we decided the article was now clarified. Who removes that from the main page of the article? Do I just leave it there? Sh33na 09:12, 23 May 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sh33na (talk • contribs)

inre Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MAHANAYIKA

WP:BEFORE is not a dirty word. At the above AFD you wrote Delete, but your opinion saying "...nothing to assume this can be timely improved for the notability" makes it seem that you based that opinion upon current state and did not practice any diligence to see if sources existed to meet WP:NF and so allow improvement. However, the article was quite easy to find ample sourcing to bring into line with MOS:FILM and WP:NF. I ask you to look at Mahanayika, study the improvements and sourcing, and reconsider your stance at to the AFD discussion... and perhaps go for a keep. Thanks, Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 17:04, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Request for input at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nick Basile

As you seem to have recently stumbled across the mother load of nigh orphaned articles from Wikipedia's early days, I figured you may like to give some input for this one. For reasons I can't fathom, this AfD has not received any input, which seems rather unusual. DARTHBOTTO _talk•cont 06:05, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

Request on 21:24:50, 26 May 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Pollyart123

• Pollyart123 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Raymond Watson (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, I am a new user to Wikipedia, so am not sure what the procedure is. The article I submitted was declined on 24th April, I have reviewed and worked on it a few times and think I have now met the requirements. I resubmitted the article around the 6th May and wonder if I could get feedback on this please. Thank-you Pollyart123 (talk) 21:24, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

Pollyart123 (talk) 21:24, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

Your Delete Rational on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of current NASCAR races (2nd nomination)

I left a comment for you to look at. I disagree with delete and redirect as some of those pages in Jeopardy has been merged with other articles, also I want to merge what has not been not been merged into those articles. Then when that is done I will redirect to the appropriate pages. So I need more input into your deletion reasoning. TY Sawblade5 ^{(talk to me | my wiki life)} 01:25, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Uno Hoffmann

Just a note to say that some more work has come out concerning Uno Hoffmann. Would be great if we could review whether or not his page should be deleted. Please see:

http://www.brainproject.ca/portfolio/uno-hoffmann/ and https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2016/04/25/brainstorming-toronto-with-cranial-creations.html

What else would be needed to justify notability? Kutbil-ik (talk) 15:24, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Janka Boga

Just letting you know that while you tagged Janka Boga with an AfD notice, you haven't yet created the deletion discussion. Thanks. clpo13_(talk) 20:02, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

17:01:06, 29 May 2016 review of submission by GATalbot

• GATalbot (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:ACWA Power (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello David, Thank you for reviewing the original submission of the ACWA Power article and for pointing out the need for additional referencing. I have completed this and resubmitted, and would be grateful if you could review again and, hopefully, accept this submission. Wishing you a good day. GATalbot (talk) 17:03, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

AfD log overwriting

May I ask why you replaced four AfD transclusions? - HyperGaruda (talk) 09:07, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

I refreshed the page as I had had it open for hours to prevent any edit and I was not aware they still conflicted. SwisterTwister talk 16:49, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

authors

Please in nominating authors and professors for deletion,remember to consider first if they may meet WP:AUTHOr and WP:PROF. It's very easy to use WorldCat to check for the importance of published books. DGG ( talk ) 03:43, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

authors

i have added a new source link to Vicky Kewat remove the notice from this page if its meet the policy of wikipedia Thakur Anant Singh ( talk ) 11:53, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

naitikavyas

Hello, Would like to have your advise on what content should be exclude on the page [3] for it to get accepted. I have personally met this individual and honest to goodness his show "Yoga for you" on Zee International is so famous that it completed more than 1000 episodes. You can find out how many shows have crossed 1000+ episodes in Health and Wellness category, my belief is hardly any. I need your suggestion to make this article accepted in wikipedia. Naitikavyas (talk) 07:16, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

draft; Peter Reder

Hi re draft for Peter Reder

To answer your question, all the galleries and museums cited in the article are national institutions that have permanent collections. Just curious - why would this be a sticking point? Prestigious theatre venues and events also cited, and refs to well known publications. Thanks Celestial99 (talk) 08:38, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia newbie

Hey SwisterTwister,

This is FeelinGroovy (Keller from Greenville, SC). Thank you for offering your help!

So first things first, I gather sources? Like news articles or something?

Thank you a MILLION! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keller Champ (talk • contribs) 21:36, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Keller Champ Yes, hello, simply gather any of the best news sources that actually mention her. But no press releases or trivial passing mentions. To know how to add these sources, see Help:Referencing_for_beginners#Information_to_include. SwisterTwister talk 21:42, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

@Keller Champ: Just a friendly note: reliable sources that provide mentions about topics can be used to verify content in articles, but do not serve to establish topic notability. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 06:35, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

2016 Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Search Community Survey

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Thank you, The Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Search Steering Committee via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:49, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Global Force Wrestling Amped

Hi, could you redirect GFW Amped to Global Force Wrestling#GFW Amped? I mentioned this in the AfD and nobody opposed; it seems uncontroversial but the page got salted after it was created following a previous AfD. Thanks.LM2000 (talk) 02:08, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Huh, I must be nuts. Turned out it wasn't salted after all and I was able to redirect it myself. Thanks anyway!LM2000 (talk) 02:40, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Promotional page

I do not have much experience in creating AFD, can you please check following AFDs'.

• Deskera
• Andriy Khlyvnyuk ‎
• Preparis Inc
• Spec Property
• Hootan Ahmadi

Aksnahar (talk) 17:06, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

1. @Aksnahar: What are you doing? To nominate all my pages for the deletion? seriously? do you know the wikipedia rules?--27century (talk) 18:51, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Deskera was previously nominated for deletion and thus has been tagged for deletion, I see no outstanding concerns from those other articles so I will not immediately examine them anytime soon. SwisterTwister talk 20:19, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

i think there are enough sources (Deskera): The Straits Times, The Business Times, India Infoline(was added today) and others.--27century (talk) 21:13, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Request on 21:38:24, 2 June 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by 50.187.57.196

• 50.187.57.196 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:BA Insight (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Thanks for reviewing my submission. I'll add reliable news sources as you suggest. As a first timer, perhaps you can advise on a couple of things: 1) do references have to be public or (for example) would analyst reports or conference material that require a subscription to access be acceptable? 2) there are a few other folks that are independent of the company that could contribute to the article. Is it OK for them to do so on this draft page, or is it better that one of them resubmit?

appreciate the help!

50.187.57.196 (talk) 21:38, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

50.187.57.196 (talk) 21:38, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

50.187.57.196 Yes to all of your questions; as for the analyst reports, if it's specifically about the company, you could add them, news is particularly what's important here. SwisterTwister talk 22:00, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Signac, LLC: Request for assistance on AfC submission

• HusSchoMar (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Signac, LLC (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

You said the page could not be posted because the company was "only founded this year thus it's not yet notable because it's too soon". Is this a rule that Wikipedia has? I can't find anything like that in the "notability guidelines", and it seems like an arbitrary decision. Signac is a joint venture by two separate billion-dollar, very notable companies, and is using software with a well-established track record. I made sure that my article had multiple citations from major, independent news sources that described the significance of Signac, which fulfills the all primary criteria for notability (depth of coverage; audience; independence of sources; and illegal conduct - the last of which does not apply). As detailed in the coverage from secondary sources, Signac is already making a substantial global impact by helping banking institutions to eliminate rogue trading and avoid other financial crises that have made major headlines and cost billions of dollars in recent years.

Thus it doesn't seem "too soon", and it meets all of Wikipedia's criteria for notability. It seems to me that waiting a year to post a Wikipedia page about this company would just make Wikipedia out of date for that time. I appreciate any suggestions you can give me to improve the article otherwise.

HusSchoMar (talk) 08:53, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Need Help to Remove the Wrong Redirect at Ramanujan College

I want to write a separate article for a Delhi University College named Ramanujan College but it is wrongly redirected to the page of another article which is about it's neighboring college. RegardsAssefme (talk) 18:16, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Assefme: What do you need help with? Is your draft ready and you need help moving it? Or are you looking for advice on getting started with drafting? Or something else? –Compassionate727 ^(T·C) 12:11, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

References

It has been resolved and Thank you @compassionate727 :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Assefme (talk • contribs) 14:41, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Afumati

Can you review CS Afumati and Stadionul Comunal (Afumati) pages, please? Rhinen

Max Jury

Doing some work on this - would appreciate it if you had a glance over it over the next few days to see where we're at with this one. He has released an album now, which means there is some more material out there. Karst (talk) 10:30, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Valid ref. links to undelete 'Anandmurti Gurumaa' page

Dear SwisterTwister,

This is the reference to the wikipedia page of Anandmurti gurumaa" which has recently been deleted following the deletion debate at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Anandmurti_Gurumaa . I had requested to resume this page,in response to which I have been directed to contact you (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion#anandmurti_gurumaa). I would like to bring to your kind notice that the reason mentioned in the debate is lack of independent resources and dead links, whereas lot of sources and independent links exist featuring work of Anandmurti gurumaa as a renowned Indian spiritual master. Moreover these reliable links belong to national newspapers like Times of India, DNA, The Hindu, India today, Amar Ujala etc.

Below are the sources for your reference Tedx talk: (Times of India) Speaking tree: DNA Newspaper: The Hindu Newspaper: The Hindu: Amar Ujala Newspaper: Wikiquote: Verified Facebook page: Youtube channel: Wikipedia other pages reference: BBC News: Interview: BBC Interview: Interview: Red Fm Vancouver ( Canada) Interview: Interview: Gurumaa with swami ramdev in an event: MTV: Life positive: Life positive: "" Life positive: Life positive: Life positive: Life positive: Life positive: Official Website: Life positive: Life positive: Life positive: Life positive: Hungama: Life positive: Karmapa: Karmapa: Karmapa: "" Karmapa: Wikipedia page references: Wikipedia page references: Wikipedia page references: Wikipedia page references: Wikipedia page references: India Today Newspaper: PS: This information has also been posted to other admins of the debate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.111.135.192 (talk) 15:37, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

WP:Deletion review is the appropriate venue. — JJMC89 (T·C) 03:09, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

References

Rockford Fosgate

Hi, I saw that you redirected the Rockford Fosgate page to Jim Fosgate back in 2015. You wrote "Nothing to suggest independent notability or better improvement and may be best moved to Jim's article". I want to rewrite the page focusing on the history of the company but wanted to get your buy-in first since you took down the page. If I send you a draft, will you review it?

Thanks, Ben 199.203.9.144 (talk) 06:55, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I just wanted to comment that I'd be willing to look at it, even if SwisterTwister does as well. –Compassionate727 ^(T·C) 22:04, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

199.203.9.144 I meant to reply earlier but have not found the time to, you can certainly start a draft but I encourage you to start an account first to maintain consistency. Also, I suggest gathering enough information and sources to actually suggest its own notable article because, when I found encountered, there wasn't anything at all. Frankly I'm not confident there's actually enough for his own notable article because it seems he was best known for this. SwisterTwister talk 22:37, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

SwisterTwister Thanks for the feedback. I'll ping you when a draft is ready. -Bheligman (talk) 10:59, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Reply to rant

"Any article that has "stated aim" within the first few paragraphs is not acceptable." {{citation needed}} (lol!)

Also, "you insist with criticizing and hounding me, please stay away as I cannot take your vulgarity seriously" is a personal attack, provide evidences of hounding or retreat your accusations. I avoided to comment in your last ANI ventures and I did not commented in the large mayority of your AfDs. Given I regularly check and comment AfDs, speedy deletions and prods, and you spend hours as AfDer and prodder and comment everywhere, our interaction stats are actually well beyond the expected level.And "the article does not appear so promotional, proceed via AfD" is arguably a very civil edit summary with no trace of vulgarity, it does not justify your rant. You would spend your time better if you would reflect about your terrible AfD record as a nominator [4], with one half of your nominations failing, and on the reason they fail so much (lack of WP:BEFORE). My best, Cavarrone 06:19, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

No, what's ranting is that I have specifically asked you to stay away because you actually go out of your way to remove PRODs, criticize me and my work, and respond quite vulgarly. See your talk page for your discussion with User:Chrisw80, where you basically never gave him an actual response. See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bertinazzi, where you specifically called me "stupid" and actually defended yourself with this again at that ANI. Please kindly stay away as I have said before because you clearly cannot speak calmly to me without causing some heated criticism. For example, you have even removed my PRODs "simply because you did not like them" with is not at all what Wikipedia is. SwisterTwister talk 06:23, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

I never gave him a response?? Are you able to read this (I had to edit itand dividing it in paragraphes because it was a wall of text)? My response was very extended and accurate, what is not clear in it? about Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bertinazzi you keep on citing again and again, are you able to EXPLAIN your vote there as long as you were not able to explain it nor in the AfD not at ANI (and again I did not called you stupid but I called your comment stupid)? I am ready to give you excuses if you are able to explain your vote there. Also, I when I removed PRODs "simply because you did not like them"? {{citation needed}}. Cavarrone 06:34, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

I cannot obviously give links to those now-deleted articles from which the PRODs you removed, but regardless, you have never acknowledged a needed apology or otherwise regret of still making a personal threatening message by calling my comments stupid. Regardless, you still have not heeded my warnings to stay away from me because of this. About Chrisw80, you never actually also acknowledged an apology or otherwise regret. Even then any apologies made could not be taken thoroughly seriously or genuine given your still disdain towards me. You simply thanked him instead, instead of saying "Yes, I know I have been too harsh and I will attempt better to distance myself". SwisterTwister talk 06:39, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Again, you would sound more convincing if you would actually explain your vote at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bertinazzi. Before your comment several editors including me posted articles, dictionary entries, encyclopedia voices and monographies about the subject, then you arrived and ignoring both the current discussion and the sources you said it had to be deleted "for now" because... I don't know. If you want to improve yourself and avoid criticism, you should analyze the reasons I considered (and still consider) such a comment stupid (and disruptive too) instead of complaining about the word. And I have no idea on why this should be a "personal threatening message", and I have no idea on why I should to stay away from you because of this (YOU were actually wrong, not me), at best is a warning on posting constructive arguments and not "just a vote". About regrets, have you actually regretted about nominating tons of notable subjects for deletion causing a much deeper stress to articles' creators, mostly unexperienced editors, who probably did not sourced them just because they did not know how to do it or did not know the en.wiki rules? Or did you regret about losing potential new editors who had needed some assistance and instead found their articles deleted without even being notified about the deletions (and the reasons their articles were deleted)? About Chrisw80, you were welcome to join the discussion in my talk page if you were not satisfied of my response. My only goal is improving Wikipedia, and about you, improve the quality of your contributions, period. I have nothing personal about you, and if it may count for something, I think you make an excellent work as AfC reviewer. Still, I stay the point your deletion arguments are too often poor, that you should improve your WP:BEFORE, and you should notify the articles' creators when you nominate their articles for deletions. You were often advised about that by multiple experienced editors, and you basically ignored these suggestions every time, not even replying to talk page messages, the time would be ripe to change such an approach.

When I started editing WP, I received some guidance and some criticism, and I have treasured of both, as long as this is a collaboration project, you should do the same. You should ask yourself on why you have issues with so many editors on WP and work to solve them. The fact this time you have not ignored/deleted the talk page message and engaged in a discussion is already a little improvement by you in the right direction. Cavarrone 07:30, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

As such because of our experiences and nothing to suggest there's anything better, that's also why I've repeatedly asked you to stay away and I hope this can actually happen thus I responded. SwisterTwister talk 07:33, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT response. I have to (sadly) retreat the comment above in which I said you were improving your approach, you apparently just do not care. And no, I will not avoid my very limited AfDs/prods interaction with you just because you don't like my arguments and don't accept any criticism. I never vote because of the nominator, I vote because of the specific article. Side note, I am pretty sure that virtually every time I voted in an AfD started by you to keep the article the article was eventually kept, so your request seems a bit a request of convenience. Cavarrone 07:56, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

09:40:07, 8 June 2016 review of submission by Jackie Partarrieu

• Jackie Partarrieu (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Rare Cancers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi there. I am confused. You say that I did not use enough reliable sources (I cited NCBI, Lancet, Oxford Journals, the World Health Organisation, EORTC, ESMO, etc). Not sure where I can find more reliable/quality sources. You also said that there is not enough "significant coverage". We are talking about RARE cancers. That is the whole point. They are rare. Not many people care about them because they are "rare". Labs don't think there is enough money in them to make them profitable and interesting. Not enough research is done on them. Patients, children (all paediatric cancers are rare) are dying because of this. I was hoping a wikipedia article could add a little stone to the building of creating awareness of this not so rare, unfortunately, unmet health need. Can you please help me by explaining what more I can say and how I can go about it? I have mined Google to find more information but I think I have added all the quality sources I could find. Many thanks in advance for your guidance. Jackie

Nomination of List of tallest players in IBL Indonesia history for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of tallest players in IBL Indonesia history is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of tallest players in IBL Indonesia history until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Jrcla2 (talk) 13:18, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Request on 15:17:37, 9 June 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Caerhys

• Caerhys (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:This Week Newspaper (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Continuing the discussion under the This Week Newspaper header above, thanks, David, for your posting at my Caerhys talk page, which has answered my first question as to where best to respond to your Submission declined posting. Please bear with me, I'm still finding my way.

References [1] and [30] have been added to the Draft:This_Week_Newspaper article to underpin the newspaper's notability in that the National Library of Wales holds a collection of the newspaper's editions and issues, which it continues to build, together with copies of the 1999/ 2000 Reader Survey. The newspaper itself was a reliable source of information throughout its seventeen year lifetime but I'm not sure if that counts. It also falls within the scope of WikiProject Wales to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to authoritative articles on Wales, and articles on Wales in Wikipedia.

I've run through all the other references and note many of them are there to provide evidence of the newspaper's existence; of events that led to its success before new media gained ground, and Campaigns that resulted in significant outcomes. In reference [20] where a press release is used, this was to show how effective the newspaper had been in persuading visitors to abandon their cars and use public transport instead at their holiday destinations, to help reduce their carbon footprint in honeypot areas.

I trust we're edging closer to the golden rule, with further advice most welcome. --Caerhys (talk) 15:17, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) First things first, I changed your wikilink for WikiProject Wales so that it points into the Project namespace, which is where said page is located. I assume you won't mind, bit it's considered to polite to inform people that you've changed their comments even if it was trivial. The second thing is that notability guidelines are pretty strict about the type of coverage that's needed. The important part is getting significantly-sized articles in reliable sources. Looking at your references, it seems like a lot of them are primary sources, namely things published by the paper itself. This is fine for verifying basic information, but does not actually indicate the subject's notability, as notability itself is an assessment of how much something has been covered by reputable sources. Looking at your draft, it would seem you should find independent sources on the matter. –Compassionate727 ^(T·C) 22:49, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

17:29:57, 9 June 2016 review of submission by Wymiller

• Wymiller (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Grass it up (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Anne DeLong's comment concerning the fact that the band's mandolinist is employed by a newspaper contains no rationale supporting the conclusion she suggests that a conflict of interest could exist.

(talk page stalker) @Wymiller: First, it's worth noting that the comment you are talking about wasn't left by SwisterTwister, but by Anne Delong. That said, I can go ahead and answer your question for you. Anne Delong wasn't referring to a conflict of interest. She(?) was making the distinction between primary and other sources, as independent sources are what's used to establish notability. The comment was simply that the bands publication in the Colorado Springs Independent didn't really count as an independent source, because one of the members is affiliated with them. –Compassionate727 ^(T·C) 22:57, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Regarding my "Stalking"

I assume you don't mind me helping you deal with all the various queries on your talk page, but I just wanted to let you know that if you do, either now or in the future, you can always ask me to stop. Thanks! –Compassionate727 ^(T·C) 22:58, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

AfD !votes

Hello. I've seen you quite a lot around AfD and you do make some great article nominations, but I'm here for a different reason. I've been scrolling through quite a lot of AfDs to determine which ones can be relisted and to sort them into categories and I've come across a lot of your !votes, but your comments all have the same generic phrasing for a delete. Please don't take this criticism to heart but maybe you should slow down with your AfD !votes and look into the topics a bit further. I've come across topics today that you've voted delete consecutively within minutes whilst supposedly searching for sources. What I'm saying is that you ought to explore the topic in detail and when you conclude that there is no sources, then !vote delete. I'm saying this because of this AfD, which is an example where sources were found upon a 'quick search', as well as here and here. This AfD is an example where other avenues could've been explored rather than AfD. I admire your dedication to Wikipedia but please, please slow down. You could be !voting delete for something that is definitely salvageable. st170e^talk 00:44, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

13:26:03, 10 June 2016 review of submission by TreacleTurtle

• TreacleTurtle (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:William Cook Group (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I'm not yet requesting a re-review, just a bit of help and clarification.

Thank you so much for reviewing my article. I was wondering if you would be able to help me a little bit as to which references aren't strong enough, so that I can improve my submission. Or is it all of them?

Many thanks in advance.

TreacleTurtle (talk) 13:26, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

02:19:59, 11 June 2016 review of submission by 67.9.151.198

• 67.9.151.198 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Chris Fuller (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi SwisterTwister,

I respectfully disagree with your decision to decline this article and request a re-review. It has been built up by several authors independent of the subject over a long period of time. It meets the Golden Rule guidelines and the Guidelines for the Notability of Creative Professionals (filmmakers, etc.)

The Golden Rule: The subject indeed has significant coverage (multi-page editorials, not Q&A interviews) in reliable sources (NY Times, LA Times, LA Weekly, Hollywood Reporter, Variety, Filmmaker Magazine, IndieWire, the Museum of Modern Art, etc.) that are independent of the topic (of course, the periodicals previously mentioned aren't related to the subject of the article in any way).

Guidelines for the Notability of Creative Professionals:

1) The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors.

The subject has been covered as one of the top 100 new filmmakers in a book published by Phaidon Press that was curated by major film festival programmers from around the world. The subject has also been nominated for an IFP Gotham Award. Also, included in the sources are interviews with other filmmakers who cite the work of the subject as an influence and something wholly original.

2) The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory, or technique.

See the above respond to #1. The filmmaker is known for the originality of his work.

3) The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews.

The subject created a work that was deemed significant by the NY Times, the Museum of Modern Art and the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. The work, "Loren Cass", has also been the one of the subjects of a book ("Take 100" published by Phaidon Press) and of multiple independent periodical articles and reviews. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.9.151.198 (talk) 02:26, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

4) The person's work (or works) either (a) has become a significant monument, (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) has won significant critical attention, or (d) is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums.

The subject's feature film, "Loren Cass", is known for its originality (a), was featured in an exhibition at the Museum of Modern Art in NYC (b), has been named a NY Times Critic's Pick and received strong reviews in numerous mainstream publications (c), was nominated for an IFP Gotham Award (c), and is represented at the Museum of Modern Art along with the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences (d), linked below for verification.

The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences: http://catalog.oscars.org/vwebv/search?searchType=7&searchId=224&maxResultsPerPage=50&recCount=50&recPointer=0&resultPointer=0

Hi SwisterTwister,

I have updated the content as you advised. Please could you take a look.

Best wishes AlexisCarlson (talk) 12:49, 15 June 2016 (UTC)