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::::::Yes. But you see , has 'the latest round' really been so terrible? Its just not important to me all this obsession with CIVIL ( which is highly uncivil to those declared beyond the pale btw or those that admins decide to pursue out of all proportion), I only care about content on article pages when all is said and done. But , yes, I'll think more about it - obviously my kind of attitude is too vulnerable to the predations of the Civilised here. I would say though, that I have learnt from years of editing - I certainly accept a lot of my editing over the years was really bad - it just seems a shame that what you learnt you can't act upon to try and be better - ( and my recent IP 'outrages' are 95% frustration and would stop if allowed to edit again and every least sentence on a talk page weren't deleted with howls of Sock/Soap etc blah blah blah) Anyhow, Im rambling, thanks again, I'll 'let it lie'.[[Special:Contributions/92.3.18.114|92.3.18.114]] ([[User talk:92.3.18.114|talk]]) 14:07, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
::::::Yes. But you see , has 'the latest round' really been so terrible? Its just not important to me all this obsession with CIVIL ( which is highly uncivil to those declared beyond the pale btw or those that admins decide to pursue out of all proportion), I only care about content on article pages when all is said and done. But , yes, I'll think more about it - obviously my kind of attitude is too vulnerable to the predations of the Civilised here. I would say though, that I have learnt from years of editing - I certainly accept a lot of my editing over the years was really bad - it just seems a shame that what you learnt you can't act upon to try and be better - ( and my recent IP 'outrages' are 95% frustration and would stop if allowed to edit again and every least sentence on a talk page weren't deleted with howls of Sock/Soap etc blah blah blah) Anyhow, Im rambling, thanks again, I'll 'let it lie'.[[Special:Contributions/92.3.18.114|92.3.18.114]] ([[User talk:92.3.18.114|talk]]) 14:07, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
:::::::Contact by email admin who issued you final block (Bbb23) and ask if you have any chance for restoring your editing rights. Your edits on subjects related to arts seem to be OK, and your edits on political subjects seem to be mostly sourced and not too bad. So, he ''might'' wish to allow you editing if you promise not to use alternative accounts - after issuing you the following formal editing restrictions under discretionary sanctions related to Eastern Europe and Syrian war: (a) 1RR restriction, (b) no any comments about other users on any talk pages and any noticeboards, (c) no alternative accounts. But this is his call.[[User:My very best wishes|My very best wishes]] ([[User talk:My very best wishes#top|talk]]) 14:24, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
:::::::Contact by email admin who issued you final block (Bbb23) and ask if you have any chance for restoring your editing rights. Your edits on subjects related to arts seem to be OK, and your edits on political subjects seem to be mostly sourced and not too bad. So, he ''might'' wish to allow you editing if you promise not to use alternative accounts - after issuing you the following formal editing restrictions under discretionary sanctions related to Eastern Europe and Syrian war: (a) 1RR restriction, (b) no any comments about other users on any talk pages and any noticeboards, (c) no alternative accounts. But this is his call.[[User:My very best wishes|My very best wishes]] ([[User talk:My very best wishes#top|talk]]) 14:24, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks for your advice, MVBW. At least I know what to do now if I seek any restoration . [[Special:Contributions/92.3.18.114|92.3.18.114]] ([[User talk:92.3.18.114|talk]]) 14:39, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

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  • I am going to stop editing for a while or reduce my participation. However, please post any Wikipedia-related comments or questions here, even if this account remains inactive. I will read and possibly respond later. My very best wishes (talk) 16:37, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Sorry to bother you, MVBW, it's the IP from 'Russian intervention' - Can I create a named account, for a second time? - I got banned for 'sock puppetry' and for intemperate remarks to others ( others made intemperate remarks to me also, of course) - is one allowed to start over? I would do that and 'never make comments about other contributors' , in print anyhow - but it's probably not allowed. I seem to get reverted immediately as a 'sock', every edit is obliterated , and I am attacked as a'troll' - I never begin by making a personal remark - I respond to the awful censoring and rudeness , never initiate it. Anyhow, whatever, thanks for your considerate and mature response to me. (I may be an anonymous 'IP" but I'm just a person also). 92.3.6.54 (talk) 22:17, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I can easily provide an advice that will work if you follow it, however, I would like to know what was your previous named account. This is not simply a curiosity. I need more info to provide qualified advice, and this is also an important test. My very best wishes (talk) 01:18, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
User:Sayerslle. I got banned for personal attacks, and sock puppetry. And obviously since being banned , as one sees today, if I find I am able to edit as an IP I do occasionally add bits , to talk pages. Since I got banned I have not added any controversial content of any kind and not edited any actual article page to do with Syria or Ukraine which were the areas I got most trouble from my edit summaries and talk page attitudes. I have never been rude or left a rude edit summary without first having met with rudeness or a reflex reversion. I have unfortunately clashed even just now with Iryna Harpy, so probably my case is hopeless, but even so, I still think a lot of it is just different views of what is 'intolerable',. If I were allowed to edit again , i would 100% undertake genuinely to modify my version of what is 'tolerable' to others more (outwardly, apparently) civil standards. But its probably hopeless! 92.3.18.114 (talk) 13:19, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! I did not expect it. Obviously, the latest round of your editing as IP does not help your case. I should think more about it. My very best wishes (talk) 13:50, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. But you see , has 'the latest round' really been so terrible? Its just not important to me all this obsession with CIVIL ( which is highly uncivil to those declared beyond the pale btw or those that admins decide to pursue out of all proportion), I only care about content on article pages when all is said and done. But , yes, I'll think more about it - obviously my kind of attitude is too vulnerable to the predations of the Civilised here. I would say though, that I have learnt from years of editing - I certainly accept a lot of my editing over the years was really bad - it just seems a shame that what you learnt you can't act upon to try and be better - ( and my recent IP 'outrages' are 95% frustration and would stop if allowed to edit again and every least sentence on a talk page weren't deleted with howls of Sock/Soap etc blah blah blah) Anyhow, Im rambling, thanks again, I'll 'let it lie'.92.3.18.114 (talk) 14:07, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Contact by email admin who issued you final block (Bbb23) and ask if you have any chance for restoring your editing rights. Your edits on subjects related to arts seem to be OK, and your edits on political subjects seem to be mostly sourced and not too bad. So, he might wish to allow you editing if you promise not to use alternative accounts - after issuing you the following formal editing restrictions under discretionary sanctions related to Eastern Europe and Syrian war: (a) 1RR restriction, (b) no any comments about other users on any talk pages and any noticeboards, (c) no alternative accounts. But this is his call.My very best wishes (talk) 14:24, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your advice, MVBW. At least I know what to do now if I seek any restoration . 92.3.18.114 (talk) 14:39, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]