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As a matter of clarification, it should be noted that there are 5 Maroon communities on the Island of Jamaica of which Accompong has non-disputed sovereignty in its territory (it is the only Maroon community with this observed status). My inputs seek to highlight the evolution and changes within Accompong under its current Colonel, Ferron Williams. Given that he is in his second term, it would be an error to omit the implications of his policies within the Wikipedia coverage of Maroon communities. [[User:Maroon Master|Maroon Master]] ([[User talk:Maroon Master|talk]]) 10:51, 3 July 2016 (UTC)Maroon Master |
As a matter of clarification, it should be noted that there are 5 Maroon communities on the Island of Jamaica of which Accompong has non-disputed sovereignty in its territory (it is the only Maroon community with this observed status). My inputs seek to highlight the evolution and changes within Accompong under its current Colonel, Ferron Williams. Given that he is in his second term, it would be an error to omit the implications of his policies within the Wikipedia coverage of Maroon communities. [[User:Maroon Master|Maroon Master]] ([[User talk:Maroon Master|talk]]) 10:51, 3 July 2016 (UTC)Maroon Master |
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:Hello. A [[Microstate]], as the article explains, is a small sovereign state that is recognised as such. Accompong's claim of sovereign statehood lacks historical or objective evidence and the issuance of passports, coinage or stamps is no indication of their domestic or international recognition. Note the distinction between [[state]] and [[nation]], and even [[country]]. There are many preceding examples of entities that have attempted to legitimise their claim of sovereignty by issuing passports, currency and stamps: The [[Haudenosaunee]] of North America and their [[Iroquois passport]], the [[Neue Slowenische Kunst]] and, at the most contentious and internationally discussed end of the spectrum, the [[Taiwan passport]]. Which, anecdotally, is not normally recognised by the Jamaican Government. The [[Seborga luigino|luigino]] of the [[Principality of Seborga]] is an example of a currency used in this fashion and many, many entities, territories and nations issue [[Cinderella stamp]]s and/or [[Local stamp]]s. Concerning your second point, the removal of the climate change section was wholly justifiable as the entire section was a political statement rather than the objective statement of facts that one expects to find in an encyclopedia. Moreover, to include a section on climate change at all, no matter how it is written, in an article about a small self-governing community is entirely [[WP:UNDUE|undue]]. [[User:Bellerophon|<span style="font:small-caps 1.0em Alexandria,serif;color=#00008B">'''Bellerophon'''</span>]] [[User talk:Bellerophon|<span style="font:0.75em Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif;color:#9966CC;"><sub>''talk to me''</sub></span>]] 17:19, 6 July 2016 (UTC) |
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hello sir/madam I have updated the following pages notibility and referencing by major standards and hope you can review it please. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kezia_Noble
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Jayesh Patel 31/03/2015 at 21:27 (uk time)
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Hi, I see you've performed a rollback on the Andrew Charalambous article. This has removed a number of informative and surely non-contentious sections, such as the infobox, schooling and further relevant detail on Charmlambous' stance on a number of issues. Also if a person is notable due to contentious aspects of his public image and activities surely these areas should be discussed in the article, examining both sides of each area. If these sections are edited down and made more objective I believe they could make the article more informative without promoting either a positive or negative POV of the subject. I don't want to go to the trouble if it's just going to be rolled back again. How do you suggest I proceed? Hi-Peak Internet (talk) 09:17, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
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Thank you kindly for your advisory. Before making any further comments on Accompong's sovereign status, please see the following article from as far back as 2013: http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20130112/ent/ent1.html I am not a lone editor making "unilateral declarations", they have a passport supported and/or endorsed by the Government of Jamaica. There are notable changes happening in Accompong, including the current discussions for its symbolic recognition by CARICOM as the oldest sovereign territory in the Caribbean. While these changes certainly are slow in forthcoming, they are notable. Your statement that Accompong is "not a micro-state by any definition Wikipedia would accept" is wholly ill informed or outdated. Also, the deletion of the Climate Change section was inappropriate given the notability of this initiative which is supported and enjoined by the Africa's most notable traditional ruler, the King of Ashanti.
As a matter of clarification, it should be noted that there are 5 Maroon communities on the Island of Jamaica of which Accompong has non-disputed sovereignty in its territory (it is the only Maroon community with this observed status). My inputs seek to highlight the evolution and changes within Accompong under its current Colonel, Ferron Williams. Given that he is in his second term, it would be an error to omit the implications of his policies within the Wikipedia coverage of Maroon communities. Maroon Master (talk) 10:51, 3 July 2016 (UTC)Maroon Master
- Hello. A Microstate, as the article explains, is a small sovereign state that is recognised as such. Accompong's claim of sovereign statehood lacks historical or objective evidence and the issuance of passports, coinage or stamps is no indication of their domestic or international recognition. Note the distinction between state and nation, and even country. There are many preceding examples of entities that have attempted to legitimise their claim of sovereignty by issuing passports, currency and stamps: The Haudenosaunee of North America and their Iroquois passport, the Neue Slowenische Kunst and, at the most contentious and internationally discussed end of the spectrum, the Taiwan passport. Which, anecdotally, is not normally recognised by the Jamaican Government. The luigino of the Principality of Seborga is an example of a currency used in this fashion and many, many entities, territories and nations issue Cinderella stamps and/or Local stamps. Concerning your second point, the removal of the climate change section was wholly justifiable as the entire section was a political statement rather than the objective statement of facts that one expects to find in an encyclopedia. Moreover, to include a section on climate change at all, no matter how it is written, in an article about a small self-governing community is entirely undue. Bellerophon talk to me 17:19, 6 July 2016 (UTC)