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We report what is in the sources. For awards there is a reference and the names listed in that reference are the names that go in the article. A lot of people don't want official recognitions to be made to a diminutive of their name even if known that way by others in informal situations. [[User:Geraldo Perez|Geraldo Perez]] ([[User talk:Geraldo Perez|talk]]) 19:29, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
We report what is in the sources. For awards there is a reference and the names listed in that reference are the names that go in the article. A lot of people don't want official recognitions to be made to a diminutive of their name even if known that way by others in informal situations. [[User:Geraldo Perez|Geraldo Perez]] ([[User talk:Geraldo Perez|talk]]) 19:29, 18 July 2016 (UTC)


I understand. Thank you very much for your input and I will work on finding sound sources where writing Jimmy Lifton's biographical page. [[User:Chadwick Berk|Chadwick Berk]] ([[User talk:Chadwick Berk#top|talk]]) 19:51, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
:I understand. Thank you very much for your input and I will work on finding sound sources where writing Jimmy Lifton's biographical page. [[User:Chadwick Berk|Chadwick Berk]] ([[User talk:Chadwick Berk#top|talk]]) 19:51, 18 July 2016 (UTC)


:Generally sources for credits info is how he is listed in the work itself. He gets to chose how he is credited and we should respect his choices there. He may chose to use different names on different projects. IMDb generally gets this right for released stuff but if you have access to actual credits that is better. There will be official text on the award as issued and for award info we should report that. I checked some of them and "James" is how he is listed on the ones I checked but I think he may have used "Jimmy" on one of them. Need to go to the source to be sure. Whatever you do make sure you can back it up with references, really important for bio info as we need to get this right. [[User:Geraldo Perez|Geraldo Perez]] ([[User talk:Geraldo Perez|talk]]) 20:09, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
::Generally sources for credits info is how he is listed in the work itself. He gets to chose how he is credited and we should respect his choices there. He may chose to use different names on different projects. IMDb generally gets this right for released stuff but if you have access to actual credits that is better. There will be official text on the award as issued and for award info we should report that. I checked some of them and "James" is how he is listed on the ones I checked but I think he may have used "Jimmy" on one of them. Need to go to the source to be sure. Whatever you do make sure you can back it up with references, really important for bio info as we need to get this right. [[User:Geraldo Perez|Geraldo Perez]] ([[User talk:Geraldo Perez|talk]]) 20:09, 18 July 2016 (UTC)


:If you do plan on writing an article see [[Wikipedia:Your first article]]. Don't base any bio article on IMDb though as IMDb is not considered a reliable source for bio info by Wikipedia. [[User:Geraldo Perez|Geraldo Perez]] ([[User talk:Geraldo Perez|talk]]) 20:19, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
::If you do plan on writing an article see [[Wikipedia:Your first article]]. Don't base any bio article on IMDb though as IMDb is not considered a reliable source for bio info by Wikipedia. [[User:Geraldo Perez|Geraldo Perez]] ([[User talk:Geraldo Perez|talk]]) 20:19, 18 July 2016 (UTC)


:Sounds good. Thank you very much for this info and if I have any questions at all I will be sure to ask you first to save time. You have been a great help. Just out of curiosity, why is IMDb considered a reliable source for crediting but not for using on biography pages? [[User:Chadwick Berk|Chadwick Berk]] ([[User talk:Chadwick Berk#top|talk]]) 20:24, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
:::Sounds good. Thank you very much for this info and if I have any questions at all I will be sure to ask you first to save time. You have been a great help. Just out of curiosity, why is IMDb considered a reliable source for crediting but not for using on biography pages? [[User:Chadwick Berk|Chadwick Berk]] ([[User talk:Chadwick Berk#top|talk]]) 20:24, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

::::IMDb it not considered a reliable source for anything really, even credits, as it is generally edited by anonymous people and IMDb's fact checking process is cursory. See [[WP:RS/IMDB]]. Credit info on IMDb is usually extracted from the projects themselves by said anonymous people and they usually get it mostly correct and it is less critical than bio info so we generally just assume that people get it right. Lots of articles just extract credit info from IMDb as a convenience. The actual source, though, is the credit info in the released project itself, not what is in IMDb, and actual credits from the project itself will always override what is in IMDb. [[User:Geraldo Perez|Geraldo Perez]] ([[User talk:Geraldo Perez|talk]]) 20:37, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Revision as of 20:39, 18 July 2016

Welcome!

Hello, Chadwick Berk, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of your recent edits to the page It's a SpongeBob Christmas! has not conformed to Wikipedia's verifiability policy, and has been or will be removed. Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations that have been stated in print or on reputable websites or in other media. Always remember to provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is likely to be challenged, or it may be removed. Wikipedia also has a related policy against including original research in articles. Additionally, all new biographies of living people must contain at least one reliable source.

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Names on awards

We report what is in the sources. For awards there is a reference and the names listed in that reference are the names that go in the article. A lot of people don't want official recognitions to be made to a diminutive of their name even if known that way by others in informal situations. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:29, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I understand. Thank you very much for your input and I will work on finding sound sources where writing Jimmy Lifton's biographical page. Chadwick Berk (talk) 19:51, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Generally sources for credits info is how he is listed in the work itself. He gets to chose how he is credited and we should respect his choices there. He may chose to use different names on different projects. IMDb generally gets this right for released stuff but if you have access to actual credits that is better. There will be official text on the award as issued and for award info we should report that. I checked some of them and "James" is how he is listed on the ones I checked but I think he may have used "Jimmy" on one of them. Need to go to the source to be sure. Whatever you do make sure you can back it up with references, really important for bio info as we need to get this right. Geraldo Perez (talk) 20:09, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
If you do plan on writing an article see Wikipedia:Your first article. Don't base any bio article on IMDb though as IMDb is not considered a reliable source for bio info by Wikipedia. Geraldo Perez (talk) 20:19, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good. Thank you very much for this info and if I have any questions at all I will be sure to ask you first to save time. You have been a great help. Just out of curiosity, why is IMDb considered a reliable source for crediting but not for using on biography pages? Chadwick Berk (talk) 20:24, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
IMDb it not considered a reliable source for anything really, even credits, as it is generally edited by anonymous people and IMDb's fact checking process is cursory. See WP:RS/IMDB. Credit info on IMDb is usually extracted from the projects themselves by said anonymous people and they usually get it mostly correct and it is less critical than bio info so we generally just assume that people get it right. Lots of articles just extract credit info from IMDb as a convenience. The actual source, though, is the credit info in the released project itself, not what is in IMDb, and actual credits from the project itself will always override what is in IMDb. Geraldo Perez (talk) 20:37, 18 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]