Talk:Croats

The gallery of personalities from the infobox

I invite everybody to post their opinions at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ethnic_groups#The_necessity_of_galleries_of_personalities_in_the_infoboxes Hahun (talk) 11:39, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

RfC can be found here Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ethnic groups#Proposal for the deletion of all the galleries of personalities from the articles about ethnic groups. Gerard von Hebel (talk) 02:17, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Genetics for ethnic groups RfC

For editors interested, there's an RfC currently being held: Should sections on genetics be removed from pages on ethnic groups?. Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 01:51, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

It should either be removed or updated. The information is over 10 years old and quite dated now since new genetic sequencing tools have been used.--63.145.59.74 (talk) 20:55, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Croatian descendants in Turkey

There are plenty of sources in which states that in Turkey live circa 10 million people of Croatian descendants. The fact is that there live millions of descendants of Croats. I found plenty of web pages on which states that approximately 10 million Croatian people live in Turkey. The sources are not just Croatian, there are also some Bosnian and even Serbian articles about that. Here are some of them:

• Najbrojnija hrvatska 'dijaspora': Čak 10 milijuna Turaka ima hrvatske korijene?
• Najbrojnija dijaspora: Hrvatske korijene ima čak 10 mil. Turaka | 24sata
• NEVJEROJATNA SPOZNAJA: 10 milijuna Turaka ima hrvatske korijene?!
• 10 milijuna turaka ima hrvatsko porijeklo - PORTAL TJEDNO
• Najbrojnija dijaspora: Hrvatske korijene ima čak 10 mil. Turaka
• Najbrojnija dijaspora: Deset milijuna Turaka vuče korijene iz Hrvatske
• SLAVNI TURSKI SULTAN I HRVATI Sulejman veličanstveni: Iz povijesti u sapunicu
• Najbrojnija dijaspora: Hrvatske korijene ima čak 10 milijuna Turaka

Same approximations have articles about French people, or Italian people. And both of these two articles have no sources, you have at least 15 sources about Croats in Turkey.

Article about Croats must have that information, because that is the fact, and articles about other nations have approximate number of their descendants. --BrunoMed (talk) 14:14, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

• They weren't sent to Turkey, they were sent to the Ottoman Empire, and could have ended up anywhere within that empire. They have also been so "genetically diluted" over the past 500 years that they're no longer Croats, because being 1/100 Croat, or less, doesn't make anyone a Croat, or any other nationality for that matter. And on top of that there's no proof for all of those children having been what we today refer to as Croats, since there were people of many different nationalities/origins living in that area. Simple logic, try it, you might like it. Thomas.W ^talk 14:23, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

I know that English people, Russian and Serbs hate Croats, please be the first one of those three nationalities and don't hate. There were sent directly to Turkey, not to Greece, not to Albania or Egypt, directly to Turkey. And they couldn't have ended up anywhere, that is the problem. I advised you to look the articles about French or Italian people. You will see that 45 million people of French ancestry with no sources. Or delete that information on all pages about nations such as English, French or Italian people and their ancestry or I will keep doing this for a long time. And try to learn something about European history, you will definitely like it. --BrunoMed (talk) 14:44, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

And how do you think that situation came about? Gerard von Hebel (talk) 14:52, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

That's a pile of rubbish, it has nothing to do with "hating Croats", it's all about it being a ridiculous claim. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a place to post silly nationalistic claims published in tabloids in order to artifically boost the number of Croats or any other nationality. Thomas.W ^talk 14:56, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

I′m not doing this because im Croat, I′m doing it because that is the fact, it is not ridiculous. Im definitely not nacionalist even opposite, but I love truth, and I live my people, same as you. I don't read any tabloids and that sources are definitely not the tabloids. That is in Serbian blood to ″artifically″ boost the number of Serbs. I didn't boost anything, I have just puta a approximate number of Croats in Turkey. --46.188.174.187 (talk) 15:02, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

What is the point of this nonsense? Should I read something about that in the wonderful edit summaries? This information, "true" or not, is irrelevant and WP:UNDUE. Gerard von Hebel (talk) 15:06, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Look, Gerard, I don't care, believe in whatever you want. I know the truth, but other readers of Wikipedia won′t know it. And the point is the true, and also that the Dutch people hate Croats. Bye. --BrunoMed (talk) 15:14, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

And no one looks the edit summaries. --BrunoMed (talk) 15:16, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Well, I look at edit summaries. I also look at your messages here and my conclusion is that these edits are not made by someone who is here with the idea to make a useful contribution to an article. Gerard von Hebel (talk) 15:18, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

"That is in Serbian blood to ″artifically″ boost the number of Serbs." I mean, really...... Gerard von Hebel (talk) 15:32, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Noone cares about you and your unimportant nation. --BrunoMed (talk) 15:47, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

All right, enough. BrunoMed, focus on content and not on contributors or who hates who. Consider this a discretionary sanctions warning. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 15:54, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

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