Talk:Electronic music

about half of this text comes from the "Electronic Music" page (2 leading caps instead of one); I've combined that info with the text here. However, the two articles claimed two different people to have produced the "earliest" electronic music; I've removed that claim for the phrase "early" instead; if someone can clarify the timeline in paragraph 2 a bit, please do so. --KQ

I added the reference hint for record labels and DJs as in some cases these can be more well known than the artists. -- PJL

Created the topic Electronic music/Art music (aka Electronic art music), for a detailed discussion of the more academic stuff (ie work by Reich, Stockhausen etc.) I hate the term "art" music, but it's better than "contemporary" (as I've heard some people call it.) -D

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Is the Dust Brothers the producers or should the Chemical Brothers be added?

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Wasn't Lux Aeterna a choral, not an electronic piece? (Although I believe some electronic distortion may have been added to the version on the 2001 soundtrack). -- The Anome

Dust Brothers are a seperate group. I believe they and the Chemical Brothers shared the same record label for some time, which was Astralwerks. (included it!) I think these artists need to be classified with their genres, and seperating out Artists/DJ's is redundant. I'm going to change it so undiff if you don't like the result.

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Someone who knows should add something about Detroit in the history of electronic music as well as the current Electronic Music Festival.

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Added the Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music link unobtrusively at the top of Genres. Although the descriptions of each genre on the link are definitely not from a NPOV, the samples and links from subgenre to subgenre are fantastic and more than make up for it. This is a necessity to the article; check it out and you'll see why. :)

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Removed the following from the ext links section:

If you have some special interest in electronic music with non-western electronic approach, check Murat Ses Official Website to listen his unique sound http://linz.orf.at/gast/murat

Shameless self-promotion is all well and good, but not for the wikipedia, I'm afraid. --Camembert

Democracy for artists from ALL regions is the first important point in projects of this kind. It's a contribution of mine (Nicole Steans), writer for diverse publications and a biographer of Murat Ses, one of important progenitors of what we call World Music today (check Academie Charles Cros, Grand Prix du Disque, Paris 1970 for 'Danses et Rythms de la Turquie d'hier au'jourd'hui, talk to people). Put his name to a search engine and be informed. You cannot assume a contribution as promotion as long as you are not in a commercial publication or do you have something similar in mind. That's NOT for Wikipedia. Sorry if Murat does not match your personal standards. You surely have right to remove something but without such comments to justify your handling. Nicole Steans (my real name).

I think Camembert's point is that this reads like self-promotion. Assuming you are important enough to merit inclusion, you should incorporate yourself into the article itself, explaining exactly how you fit into the electronic music scene. The external link should go at Murat Ses, not here. If that sentence is all that can be said about you encyclopedically, you should be listed at List of electronic music artists and that's it. The sentence quoted gives no neutral information aside from the external link, and it doesn't belong here. Tokerboy

Am not important. Murat Ses is important to me. Stop trying to talk to me as if I am the respective EM artist. Am a reviewer, interviewer with published articles in i/e, AfterTouch, SoundMind, and some electronic mags. The sentence there might sound like that. Will formulate something else. User:Nicolesteans

I apologise for assuming it was self-promotion - I leaped to that assumption rather too quickly. However, I am going to take the link out again, for the following reason: there are thousands of electronic artists with websites (me for one, not to mention hundreds of incredibly famous ones), and if we list one, we'd have to list them all in the interests of fairness and neutrality. If he can be worked into the text of this article with a link to our own page on Murat Ses, then that's fine; and the Murat Ses article can certainly have the link removed from here in it. But to put that external link in this article gives the impression of advocating Murat Ses' music above all other electronic artists. --Camembert

Fine, your statement is OK. Sorry for any inconvenience. Nicolesteans

Oops, no offense intended above. I misinterpreted what you wrote as saying you were Murat Ses. Tokerboy

I hope one of you aces include something about Raymond Scott, pioneer of electronic music. MarcusAurelius

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To state that Ron Grainer "created" the Dr Who theme is a serious (but long perpetrated) error. Grainer composed it, but it was "realised" by Delia Derbyshire with little or no input from Grainer. Upon hearing the finished piece he asked "Did I write that..?!". In fact, he was so impressed that he wanted Derbyshire to have a co-writing credit, but petty BBC beurocracy vetoed this...

Can anyone integrate this info into the piece? I can't find a succinct way to word it!Silver plane