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George Spafford Richardson is currently a Warfare good article nominee. Nominated by Zawed (talk) at 09:02, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

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Common name

I thought that the article is a bit thin on content for a GA candidate and thus looked into his local body career. From my brief reading, it would appear that his common name is George Richardson. Thoughts? Schwede66 09:56, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There are already quite a few George Richardson articles, so I think the middle name is a useful disambiguator. Cheers. Zawed (talk) 04:12, 3 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to be a reasonably common misconception that middle names can be used for disambiguation when that is clearly not the case: "If there is no usual form of conventional disambiguation, place a disambiguating tag in parentheses after the name." If the common name does not include the middle name, it shouldn't be used for dab purposes. Schwede66 04:32, 3 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Material for possible article expansion

This funny story was in the newspapers in 1924. Schwede66 19:01, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 17 August 2016

It has been proposed in this section that George Spafford Richardson be renamed and moved to George Richardson (New Zealand military leader).

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George Spafford Richardson → George Richardson (New Zealand military leader) – As mentioned above and since researched further by reading contemporary newspapers, he was not generally known by his middle name; "George Richardson" was his WP:COMMONNAME. As explained above, middle names cannot be used for disambiguation according to WP:NCPDAB. "military leader" would be a suitable dab, but there's also an Indian military leader of this name so I suggest that we add "New Zealand" to the dab, too. Schwede66 08:31, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support this move 2601:541:4305:C70:8CA1:4165:CEFB:318D (talk) 19:19, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Middle names can be used as disambiguators per WP:NCPDAB and WP:MIDDLENAMES. He appears in the NZDB, the Encyclopaedia of New Zealand, the National Archives and London Gazette all using his middle name. A search on Trove yields every mention of him using the middle name! Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:46, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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 [[:George Spafford Richardson]] → {{no redirect|George Richardson (New Zealand military leader)}} – As mentioned above and since researched further by reading contemporary newspapers, he was not generally known by his middle name; "George Richardson" was his [[WP:COMMONNAME]]. As explained above, middle names cannot be used for disambiguation according to [[WP:NCPDAB]]. "military leader" would be a suitable dab, but there's also an Indian military leader of this name so I suggest that we add "New Zealand" to the dab, too. '''<font color="#000000">[[User:Schwede66|Schwede]]</font><font color="#FF4500">[[User talk:Schwede66|66]]</font>''' 08:31, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
 *'''Support''' this move [[Special:Contributions/2601:541:4305:C70:8CA1:4165:CEFB:318D|2601:541:4305:C70:8CA1:4165:CEFB:318D]] ([[User talk:2601:541:4305:C70:8CA1:4165:CEFB:318D|talk]]) 19:19, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
+*'''Oppose''' Middle names ''can'' be used as disambiguators per [[WP:NCPDAB]] and [[WP:MIDDLENAMES]]. He appears in the NZDB, the Encyclopaedia of New Zealand, the National Archives and London Gazette all using his middle name. A [http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=George+Spafford+Richardson search] on Trove yields every mention of him using the middle name! [[User:Hawkeye7|Hawkeye7]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye7|talk]]) 22:46, 18 August 2016 (UTC)