Talk:List of ethnic slurs

Madrassi

What I've seen myself, South Indians are called Madrassi by people from every other region of India i.e. by Eastern Indians as well. More educated ones typically use the term 'South Indian' to refer to southern Indians but with the same level of ethnic bias. So instead of mentioning that only people from western , central and northern parts use that word, it would be nice to say 'non-Southern Indians' typically use this term--59.93.173.140 (talk) 15:54, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

You should take that up with the article Madrassi. If we change it here, it will not agree with the article. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:27, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Nawar

degratory arab term for romani people (gypsies). see nawar (people) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.10.49.146 (talk) 09:29, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Cushi as a loanword

Does the below citation justify restoring Cushi as an English loanword?

References

Негр

In the section for nigger and something, add the notice that the russian “Негр”, is not an abusive word towards black-skinned humans. This is the same as saying “black”, neutral. The word Негритос (this is singular, derived from negritos) though, already is somewhat derogatory, but is used rather for fun, than with intent. Черномазый (~ sloppily black-painted) is the most abusive word i can recall. By the way it's all said there: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B5%D0%B3%D1%80

'Gypsy'

At present the article asserts as a note on 'Gyppo, gippo, gypo, gyppie, gyppy, gipp' that "these are variations of "Gypsy"- people of Romani origin. "Gypsy" is not in itself an ethnic slur but its usage is sometimes controversial." -but the section linked to there regarding the term 'Gypsy', asserts " However, according to many Romani people and academics who study them, the word has been tainted by its use as a racial slur and a pejorative connoting illegality and irregularity,[20][21][22][23][24][25][26] and some modern dictionaries either recommend avoiding use of the word gypsy entirely or give it a negative or warning label.[27][28][29][30][31][32]" which contradicts this.Number36 (talk) 21:41, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

I can see that. It seems the note makes that clear. What would you want to change? Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:48, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Please add gypsy to the list. There is NO source listed to back the OPINION of the contributor who wrote that the g-word itself is not a slur. The history of the term and the history of the treatment of the Romani people and the modern-day uses of the word all point to the fact that the word is a racial slur. There is no justification for it not being on the list. How could anyone argue that derivatives of the term are racist but the term itself is not? That's a bunch of garbage. Please add gypsy to the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.164.9.61 (talk) 02:07, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

@Benwing: I found the edit where the comment was added by Benwing with this edit in 2012. I have reverted it as it now seems contentious. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:56, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

@Richard-of-Earth: I just saw this. These other terms are indeed variations of "gypsy". In response to Number36, it's not strange for derivative words to be slurs independent of the status of the word they're derived from, cf. "Chink" (a slur) vs. "Chinese" (not a slur). As for "gypsy", word usages can change over time and things may have changed since a few years ago so I won't contest your edit. Benwing (talk) 14:10, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

@Benwing: I wasn't questioning that those derivatives were slurs, only the positive assertion that 'gypsy' was not since it was contradicted elsewhere.Number36 (talk) 06:29, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

This list is racist.

This list claims that racist hate words for white people are not offensive. This is racist and incorrect.

The words "pakeha", "palagi" and "honky" are just as racist as nigger or porch monkey, and are equally offensive to many New Zealanders.

Please update this list to be race neutral, so that anti white racist terms are considered as offensive as any other racisim.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.149.191.156 (talk)

OK, I have removed them and a few others. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 08:17, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

If you want to talk about racism, compare terms for Caucasians versus terms for other races, and see the disparity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.191.205.220 (talk) 17:13, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

I've removed Pākehā, it's not an ethnic slur at all, and as per its article there is no evidence it has any derogatory connotation. It's a neutral language term. Some people have attempted false etymologies in the past to try and discredit the word, but that was based more on prejudice going the other way.Number36 (talk) 21:50, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

"Not always pejorative"

The article states at the top of the list "However the complexity of the issue of the listing and usage of such terms needs to be noted. For instance, many of the terms listed below (such as "Gringo", "Yank", etc.) are used by large numbers of human beings in many parts of the world as part of their ordinary speech or thinking without any intention of causing offence, and with little or no evidence that such usage does in fact cause much offence."

A number of entries on the list have qualifiers that add up to the word being "not always pejorative". This could be said of any word on the list. Should such statements be removed throughout the list? Richard-of-Earth (talk) 07:52, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Is there any situation in which "nigger" or "spic" is not offensive? Bataaf van Oranje (Prinsgezinde) (talk) 22:01, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

When the ethnic group the slur targets use it among themselves in jest. As could be said for all slurs. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 04:22, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Well, Snopes debunked the above statement. [The first recorded use of "gringo" in English dates from 1849 (when John Woodhouse Audubon, the son of the famous nature artist, wrote that "We were hooted and shouted at as we passed through, and called 'Gringoes'"), the word was known in Spanish well before the Mexican-American War. According to Rawson, the Diccionario Castellano of 1787 noted that in Malaga "foreigners who have a certain type of accent which keeps them from speaking Spanish easily and naturally" were referred to as gringos, and the same term was used in Madrid, particularly for the Irish. ] Not sure that really gets to the level of "derogatory" but thought this was worth consideration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.2.203.17 (talk) 15:52, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

A modest proposal: Sort terms by race?

Why not list these terms by race? This way, a racist looking for a disparaging term could find it more easily. The way the list stands now, for example, a psychotic neo-Nazi skinhead scholar in search of a pejorative term for "Jew has to scour the entire list. He has to pluck useful terms along the way and store them in his memory. In the interest of scholarship, should the terms be sorted by race? Then you could see them all at once grouped by ethnicity. This would help the Nazi skinhead and would be of service to racists everywhere who come to Wikipedia to find choice ethnic slurs. Chisme (talk) 04:26, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

There are separate lists for that: List of ethnic slurs by ethnicity or List of religious slurs. Your psychotic neo-Nazi skinhead scholar can go to one of thoses. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 06:39, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Well, he's not MY neo-Nazi skinhead, but I'm sure he's grateful to Wikipedia and its army of editors for doing him this good service. Chisme (talk) 16:21, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Richard-of-Earth, he was never making a serious proposal to begin with, he's just trying to be snarky and passive-aggressive because he doesn't agree with the page. See A Modest Proposal by Jonothan Swift for the cultural reference. --benlisquare_T•C•E 05:12, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Possible addition

The French were commonly called "six-weekers" by the Germans and others, especially during WW2.

Tsot ghost (talk) 11:20, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion, but rsdb.com is not a suitable citation as it is self published. See WP:SELFPUBLISH. Anyone can add an entry to rsdb.com. I do not doubt that "six-weeker" was used as a slur, but I have been unable to find a citation from a reliable source to support it. Of course if it was used by the Germans, then I am sure it was said in German which per Google Translate would be something like "sechswöchigen". Since I do not speak German, I can not do a decent search for this term. Without a citation we shouldn't put this on the list. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 08:57, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

References

Ukrop

So, if someone entered "ukrop" in the list (which is... well... Ok, it is used, but maybe 2-3 years of usage should not suffice for including it, maybe it'll die as fast as it appeared...) But why then that someone did not include "vatnik"? 185.150.154.127 (talk) 20:18, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

OK! Since "Vatnik" has an article, I added it. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 08:04, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 August 2016

Add Keling they are indians who live in malaysia

198.24.76.139 (talk) 11:11, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Done — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 14:31, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 August 2016

Inbreed: used to refer to a Swiss person 213.200.203.161 (talk) 15:24, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. VarunFEB2003 ^{I am Offline} 15:36, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Not done: as you have not made a request in the form "Please replace XX with YY" or "Please add ZZ between PP and QQ".
More importantly you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 15:38, 24 August 2016 (UTC)