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September 20

How correctly add emblem?

• Turkey (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hi. I'm want add emblem for Turkey Eng version. Example - mhr:Турций etc. Thanks. If you don't understand a question, please say me. I will try to explain in another (I'm bad speak English, sorry) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gl dili (talk • contribs) 04:47, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

@Gl dili: If this question is for editing content on the Meadow Mari Wikipedia or the Turkish Wikipedia, you may be better asking on their equivalent of our help desk, which you should be able to find through their community portals at mhr:Википедий:Тӱшка and tr:Vikipedi:Topluluk portali, where you can hopefully get support in your native language. We officially only support the English Wikipedia here, and we do not know the policies and guidelines for other language Wikipedias (each Wikipedia sets its own policies and guidelines). We can give general advice, but it may not be correct for other Wikipedias. Beyond that, I'm not really sure exactly what you are asking. I assume by "emblem", you mean an image or logo. Which page do you wish to add this to, and where on the page? If your question is about a page on the English Wikipedia, this is the correct place for general support. Murph9000 (talk) 05:17, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the answer. This emblem is in the most pages to other languages Wikipedia except the English version. Here is the page Turkey (last edits). I also discuss here Talk:Turkey § The emblem. Help please — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gl dili (talk • contribs) 05:26, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Gl dili: Ahh, ok, I just checked your editing history, and I see you have been discussing this at Talk:Turkey. Apparently the community consensus, here on English Wikipedia, is that the emblem should not be added to the page. I have not looked into the history behind that consensus, but the person who told you that (Anna Frodesiak) is an administrator, so I trust her answer to be correct. We, at the help desk, will absolutely not do anything against community consensus. Any discussion about changing the consensus should take place on the article's talk page. Murph9000 (talk) 05:33, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Bosham Sailing Club

I am a new user. An article that I worked on in my sandbox has been submitted but the title was my user name/sandbox. As this couldn't be edited, I submitted the article again with the same text (which I'm happy with) and the correct title (Bosham Sailing Club). Both are now sitting in my contributions box and I'd like to withdraw the earlier (wrong) one. How can I do this or will it automatically get rejected and the correct one (hopefully) accepted ? Credefarmer (talk) 11:40, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

The easy option is for you simply to blank User:Credefarmer/sandbox. You will then be able to use the page for anything else that you want to use it for subsequently. I see that you didn't submit Bosham Sailing Club as a draft for review through the AFC process, but you published it directly to mainspace. Some other editors have made further edits to tidy it up a little. I took the liberty of adding a section heading above your question, as it did not relate to the section in which it had been placed. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:52, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Size of printable version

When I print Wikipedia article by clicking "printable version", sometimes the article's font comes out tiny? Other times it comes out readable even though I don't change anything between doing the two. How can I make it always come out in readable font size? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dciree (talk • contribs) 13:00, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

@Dciree: This is a potentially tricky area, as there could be quite a few things which cause that. Can you please give us some examples of pages which exhibit the problem for you. It could be something problematic in the page's markup (i.e. some bad markup that we could improve), or it could be something like particular types of content (e.g. tables which are very wide, causing your browser to scale everything down to fit the table in). Please also let us know the browser and exact browser version that you are using. At the very least, we need some good examples to work with (and ideally a couple of examples which seem good to you as well), before we can give a good answer. Anything from more than one example that triggers the problem, up to about a dozen would be good (doesn't have to be that many, 3 or 4 would be fine, but more data is usually good), ideally with some variety in them. Murph9000 (talk) 13:12, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Side note: Generally, there is no reason to use the "Printable version" link, as all modern browsers apply the printable version automatically when you print from the browser. "Printable version" is mostly useful to show editors what a page looks like in print, without having to print. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 16:33, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Thomas Coke, 2nd Earl of Leicester

Please note that citation number 3 is not correctly done. Please repair - 115.70.161.50 (talk) 13:37, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Citation number 3 is a reference that you added, so the responsibility for correcting it is yours.

The parameters are described in {{cite web}}:

|publisher, if used, is for the publisher

page number goes in the |page parameter, not in the |publisher parameter

date goes in the |date parameter, not in the |publisher parameter

|accessdate is for the date you accessed the page to check it. If you accessed it today, it should be 2016, not 2014.

--David Biddulph (talk) 14:58, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Using Wikipedia to look at news

how to use Wilipedia to look news? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.52.97.10 (talk) 14:41, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello. While we do have some coverage of news and current events, Wikipedia is primarily an encyclopedia, and not a news service. We link to our limited coverage of notable current events on the main page and Portal:Current events. For more comprehensive news coverage, you will need to look elsewhere, such as one of the many online news services, e.g. BBC, CNN, Google News, many of the traditional quality newspapers that have an online presence, etc. Feel free to ask more questions about Wikipedia. Murph9000 (talk) 14:54, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Please see Wikinews. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:52, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Fix incomplete references after splitting article

• Bonsai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
• Bonsai history (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I'm in the process of splitting a long article. The contents of the new article contain about eighty references. Many are self-contained, with all needed information provided in the material copied from the original master article. These references show up correctly in the "References" section at the end of the article. But a number of the references in the new page are incomplete, referring to a preceding reference that exists in the master article but not in the new one.

A typical error message appearing in the WP-generated "References" section would be "Missing or empty |title=". It appears because the reference I have in the new article is only partial, depending on a preceding reference for some of its information (in this case, the title of the book referred to). That preceding reference has not been included in the text for the new article, so the reference I got by copying the master article's contents is visibly incomplete.

In some cases these prior references have unique titles or author names so are painful but easy to match up, and the reference can be repaired by copying the missing information from the reference in the main article. But some references are marked "autogenerated" - for example:

ref name=autogenerated5>Smith. pp. 124–125. {{cite book}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

These references in the new article do not seem (to my eyes) to indicate exactly which prior reference from the main article would contain the missing information. Again, if the author name is associated with only one prior reference, it's painful but obvious where to get the missing information. But it seems some authors have more than one work referenced, and I am not sure how to track from a reference name like "autogenerated6" back to the correct master reference that would contain the information I need to complete the incomplete reference properly in the new article.

I apologize in advance if I haven't communicated my problem clearly. I'm inventing jargon on the fly ("master article", "original reference", etc.) and I hope being at least consistent if not completely clear. I suspect I am at least the fifty-thousandth editor to run into this situation, though, and I hope that someone with practical knowledge can give me valuable hints to make this process simpler and error-free. Thanks!

Sahara110 (talk) 16:10, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

@Sahara110: For future reference, when asking for tech support, please link all relevant articles, ideally using {{la|Article name}}, as I have done at the top of this topic. It just helps us quickly see the full context and give you the best advice and answers. If you open the source for Bonsai, then use your browser's find function with "autogenerated5", you should find the reference you are looking for, and just need to copy that full reference across. Repeat for any other missing refs, replacing the first instance of any refs which are only a name (i.e. no actual reference) with the full version of it from the original article. These "autogenerated" names are evidently from some automated reference tool used by someone on the original article in the past. The wiki is not auto-generating anything for you here, they are just arbitrary labels. I hope that addresses it for you. If I missed something, or you need more help, please ask. Murph9000 (talk) 16:41, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Murph9000: Thanks very much for the quick response and useful information. I had thought - without evidence and, it now appears, without being correct - that "autogenerated" might be one of the many Wikipedia services I have not mastered. I certainly prefer the semantically meaningful appearance of a title actually derived from the referenced work in primary and subsequent references. But there seem to be a lot of different conventions and techniques used for references in different articles and by different editors. It appears that one of WPs many minions has already cleaned up the errored references in Bonsai history, so I will tuck your information away for future reference and proceed with the article splitting. Sahara110 (talk) 18:15, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

• Sahara110, while I have fixed all the errors left in the wake of your editing, I would strongly suggest you read Referencing for beginners "before" proceeding ahead with editing references and creating more such errors. Many of the references that I have fixed temporarily can be further improved in their structure. Do please feel free to ping me or any of the other editors for further assistance, if you get stuck. Lourdes 16:56, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Lourdes: I am sorry if I have missed anything, but after checking the change history to Bonsai I cannot spot your positive contribution to "errors left in the wake of my editing". Your fixes to Bonsai are much appreciated and definitely improve the article. Sadly I see no corrections to any errors I may have introduced into that article over the last seven or eight years. Those who made the errors to which you're referring, whose contributions are doubtless trackable through the edit history, may benefit more from your insights than I have. As to the problems in the new Bonsai history article, I had really requested and hoped to receive (as visible a couple of paragraphs above in my original request) information that would allow me to make necessary changes myself, as that seems to be a good way to learn. To my good fortune, User:Murph9000 seems to have met that request. Your quick work is otherwise much appreciated. Sahara110 (talk) 18:15, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

• Sahara110, my apologies if the statement "errors left in the wake of your editing" came out otherwise. If you refer to this edit of yours where you created the article Bonsai history, your edit contains all the referencing errors that have been corrected by me. As there is no editor preceding any edits made by you, and as you individually did not have an idea of how to correct the referencing errors in the article you created, I forwarded my encouragement (which still stands) that you should read Help:Referencing for beginners so that you can correct such future errors when you are creating valid forks out of large articles. I'll reiterate, please do ping me or any other editor for any assistance as such in the said articles. Thanks. Lourdes 18:34, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

• @Sahara110: I did some janitorial work for you on the talk pages of both articles, putting up a suitable copyright attribution template, {{Copied}}, and the standard WP:TALKLEAD stuff. I copied the WikiProject banners without modification, so feel free to adjust the class and importance parameters as needed, I was just doing a bit of technical help there, not actually assessing the article. If you are not sure about the ratings, drop a message on the talk pages of each WikiProject explaining your page split, and encourage them to adjust their banners as needed. Murph9000 (talk) 17:11, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Murph9000: Excellent! Thanks for moving this article forward. I will try to remember to keep open communications with the ratings teams. It was a failed GA (Good Article) assessment that led me to make a series of recommended changes to the Bonsai article, this split being the most recent task of several planned changes (see Talk:Bonsai#Pre_GA_comments and Talk:Bonsai#Tackling_some_of_the_GA_Good_Article_review_comments for relevant history). When I have addressed as many of the known concerns as I can, I will do as you suggest with selected ratings teams. Thanks for your constructive help. Sahara110 (talk) 18:15, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

ClueBot issue

• The Fox Lover (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Autobot destroys 1/2 of THE FOX LOVER plot; then my message that AUTOBOT removed half of plot was removed as well!

I wondered why someone only did half of the movie by the name of THE FOX LOVER and didn't do the rest.

After days of meticulously doing the plot of the last half of the movie, I got a message that the AUTOBOT 'edited' my submitted plot; upon examination, it deleted all except the part of the plot already on your site! ONly a few lines of my additions were left on the page.

I placed a message that the stupid autobot deleted the plot for the last half of the movie, and DemocraticLuntz‬ left me a message that I 'vandalized' the movie plot.

How can I 'vandalize' a movie plot when your stupid autobot did it already; all I placed at the bottom of the plot was deleted by your autobot?

This is not the only movie I have noticed that only has anywhere from 1/4 to 3/4ths of the plot intact!

Doesn't anyone check your autobot and see what it is up to occasionally?

I did make a copy of the full plot for THE FOX LOVER if you want it uploaded again.

DemocraticLuntx removed my message that half of the plot was removed by your autobot.

Any way of correcting this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Desade 4 (talk • contribs) 20:26, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

ClueBot NG generally does a good job at identifying vandalism, but it does make mistakes. You can report false positives at User:ClueBot NG/FalsePositives. However, you should also know that plot summaries should be kept fairly short, usually no more than 700 words. See MOS:PLOT. clpo13_(talk) 20:34, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

At almost 5000 words that plot was far in excess of what is recommended in MOS:PLOT. We don't need anything near that level of detail. And the complaint about the bot removing the edit did not belong in the article and was correctly removed. Meters (talk) 20:41, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Image placement dilemma

Hello. I am having trouble positioning a thumbnail on First Lord of the Treasury. My first edit to the article yesterday made the article look like this, which was unhelpful. I have since moved the image to just below the infoboxes on the right side of the page, but I would prefer if the text could flow around the image at the #Official residence section. I am unsure how to rectify this. Thanks.--Nevé–selbert 21:10, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

That's an odd one! I'll see if I can fix it for you and then I'll update here with how I did it, because yeah at first glance I would've thought you had the syntax right the first time. Innisfree987 (talk) 15:24, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Update for Neve-selbert: so I'm a bit out of my depth here but I'm pretty sure what's happening is layout defaults do not want you to place a picture to the left of that first infobox (to preserve layout in cross-browser viewing, I suspect)--no matter where I put the file in the code, it always takes it down to the line just below the end of the first infobox. I suspect that's an insurmountable problem but maybe someone who knows more than I will see your question and have a better answer here; or, you could ask at, say, Wikipedia_talk:Extended_image_syntax or another talk page about images, which tend to be frequented by people who've done a LOT of these. Sorry I couldn't help more! Innisfree987 (talk) 15:45, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

OK. Thanks anyway, Innisfree987.--Nevé–selbert 17:09, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Self-reverting 3rd revert

I have a question regarding 3RR. Say I revert a third time, but I self-revert that revert, is it still considered being on the border of 3RR? Thanks. Callmemirela 🍁 {Talk} ♑ 21:12, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Technically it's not, as undoing your third revert puts you at two. However, further reverts after that might be seen as WP:GAMING, unless they're obvious 3RR exemptions. clpo13_(talk) 22:43, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Callmemirela: WP:3RR has a specific exemption for self-reverting. Personally, I feel the spirit of it is that if you immediately self-revert a revert, that doesn't count towards the total, but if it's at the stage where you could have 3 non-exempt reverts you should be backing off for at least 24h (and constructively contributing to the talk page and other articles instead). Take a step back. If it comes a long time later, it could be more open to interpretation, especially if someone felt there was WP:GAMING involved. That's assuming a single self-revert to either correct an obvious mistake (e.g. reverting to the wrong version), or for a change of heart; I wouldn't expect a favourable interpretation of repeated self-reverts without an extremely compelling case.

To me, the spirit of the rule is that the edit history should not end up as pages of the article bouncing back and forth (with exceptions for 100% clear and obvious vandalism and the like, but there should be an AIV filed early on in that). If in any doubt about it, STOP! If you end up in a situation where an admin has to do complex analysis and maths to figure out if you crossed the line, they may not be terribly happy with you. Note the part of the policy which states that you don't actually have to cross the threshold to get a block for warring. Also, make certain that those edit summaries are good, whether claiming an exemption or not.

Murph9000 (talk) 23:02, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

@Clpo13:, @Murph9000: Thank you for your help! Callmemirela 🍁 {Talk} ♑ 23:06, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

How do I deal with references that could potentially get outdated in the future?

I'm new to editing Wikipedia articles. As far as references are concerned, wiki pages have websites cited as sources/references. However, news agencies or any particular website (cited as a reference) could potentially shut down in the future. If that happens, that can't possibly be a valid reference anymore. Right? How can I immortalize the references that I'm providing in my article on Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.235.7.46 (talk) 23:51, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

I don't think that you need to worry about that, because InternetArchiveBot will automatically replace the dead link with an archived copy. Pppery 01:18, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Pppery is right, but if you do want to manually archive your sources, check out WP:WEBCITE. clpo13_(talk) 01:56, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

September 21

Sort order

Category:Women chemists shows Melanie Sanford at the beginning of the category, but the article has {{DEFAULTSORT:Sanford, Melanie}}, and the talk page has {{WikiProject Biography|living=yes|class=start|listas=Sanford, Melanie|s&a-work-group=yes|s&a-priority=low}} Why is the sort order in the category wrong?--Dthomsen8 (talk) 00:00, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

I have removed a bad sort key.[1] See Help:Category#Sort order. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:21, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Thomas Coke, 2nd Earl of Leicester

Totally got the url wrong and mucked up this citation. So Sorry - Please fix and leave in page number 115.70.161.50 (talk) 00:15, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

 Done This was carefully explained in the earlier thread, yet the clear instructions were not followed. Eagleash (talk) 03:07, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Index of births in U.S. states

Is there any online index for Nebraska and Oklahoma like there is for California? --LLcentury (talk) 01:13, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

LLcentury hello and welcome. Could you please clarify your query further? Which online index of California are you referring to? That might help give an appropriate response. Lourdes 15:10, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

<de-lurk> LLcentury, you may be looking for something like Nebraska Public Records or Oklahoma Birth and Death Record Searches. Good luck. >MinorProphet (talk) 02:23, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Crazy web design/formatting

My original problem is the following. If I go to Special:Notifications Wikipedia formats this page in a crazy way -- the content width is approximately 1.5 times wider than my screen. I don't know who made such a "genius" design/formatting, but it should be fixed.

As a side-effect, trying to report this bug, I have found other problems.

1. In "Contact Wikipedia" there is NO link to report the problems/bugs with web-design/contact web developers. 2. Even in this form here (where I was redirected from volunteers email) it seems that the user is supposed to have a question. It is not supposed that the user can simply report a problem. I don't know who designed all this, but this assumption is wrong. Please, provide "Report a bug" link (nothing to do with content).

P.S. I usually have very bad opinion about companies/sites that make N problems our of initial single one just on the way to report it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EdwardGoldobin (talk • contribs) 07:28, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

• EdwardGoldobin, maybe the header at Wikipedia:Village pump/Technical can point you to the correct place of posting. I will grant you that the "backstage" parts of the site are hard to navigate for newcomers.

As for your post scriptum, you are definitely entitled to a full refund of any sum spent browsing Wikipedia (internet data usage not included). Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 09:50, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

@EdwardGoldobin: I have reported it at Wikipedia talk:Notifications#No line wrap. I assume you have the same problem of no line wrapping and the longest line determining the width. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:46, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

New here

• User:Torsten Lang/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I did write an article about Dwayne S. Milburn. I did the German one too. But I heed help here... I would need someone to bring the english one in the right form!?(Torsten Lang (talk) 13:08, 21 September 2016 (UTC))

Hi Torsten Lang, welcome to English Wikipedia. I have dropped one of our standard welcome messages on you, with lots of helpful links. Please be aware that our policies and guidelines may differ from those on German Wikipedia, as each Wikipedia sets their own rules (although there will be many similarities). Wikipedia:Your first article may have some useful information for you, and I think it would probably be best if you submitted your draft via our Articles for Creation process. That's our official channel for getting a proposed article reviewed by an editor who is familiar with the issues around new articles. Please do ask more questions here. Murph9000 (talk) 13:26, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

No Talk Pages on Mobile View

Hi, I've recently joined the modern world and got a smartphone. When I was using wiki on it, I noticed I couldn't access the talk pages. Is there are tab I've not noticed or is talk page access computer only? Red Fiona (talk) 14:28, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Redfiona99. I can't find any link straight to it, but I can certainly put "Talk:" on the front in the search bar, and get to a talk page that way. --ColinFine (talk) 14:40, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

There is a talk page tab at the bottom of every page, but only for logged-in users. - NQ (talk) 14:42, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Taking a quick look at WP:HD (just for example) on the mobile site in a desktop browser, there's a "Talk" button down at the very bottom of the page (bottom left). I'm not certain I'd choose to put it there when people are used to it being at the top, but whatever. Murph9000 (talk) 14:45, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Thank you all. I suspected I'd been looking for it in the wrong place (and I was logged out, which probably didn't help). Red Fiona (talk) 14:52, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Using search

Hi, I have been trying to make use of Help:Searching#Parameters without success. For example to search for a term in a specific category, do I just need to type : "Search term, incategory:categoryname" in the searchbox above? --77.126.28.101 (talk) 15:22, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

I'm not sure what exactly you mean by "search for a term in a specific category". ammonia incategory: German_chemists will search for pages which both contain the term "ammonia" and are a member of Category:German chemists (but not if the page is only in a subcategory like Category:German biochemists). The search for example finds Rudolf Günsberg which contains "He wrote about the ammonia-soda process" and is the last page listed under "G" in Category:German chemists. If you still have problems then try giving a real example you are looking for. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:18, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. --77.126.28.101 (talk) 21:00, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Copyvios, reverts

Here are so many pages refering to other pages that I don't know where to put this. User:Irbox adds copyvios and re-adds them after they have been removed (by me). He deleted my note about this on his talk page (and later re-added it after I complained), so he most likely didn't do anything by mistake. So, what to do? --92.73.28.106 (talk) 21:23, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

After a certain number of progressive warnings in a reasonable time period, usually 4 but can be less, the user can be reported to the vandalism noticeboard for administrator action if he keeps adding copyvio content. Now if he keeps removing notices to hide his tracks, then that needs to be brought up at the administrator noticeboard for incidents as it is slightly different. RegistryKey^(RegEdit) 07:22, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

I removed clear copyright violations (film reviews) he had added to several articles. He has since then re-added at least one of them. I don't have time to deal with this, I'm about to be away from my computer for a couple of days. So I hope someone else can issue the necessary warnings etc. Maproom (talk) 08:53, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

September 22

Help with duplicate user accounts

I apparently have two user accounts, one from 2006 which I accidentally just logged into and made a talk page comment and one from earlier this year where I drafted my 1st article. I know having two accounts is against policy so how do I go about getting the two accounts linked up? I see that is the recommended course, but missed the how-to in my search. Thanks, wysockat & wysockat85 Wysockat (talk) 21:26, 22 September 2016 (UTC) Wysockat85 (talk) 21:27, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

@Wysockat85: having multiple accounts is not against policy. Abusing multiple accounts is. You don't have to do anything about the old account, simply don't log in and use it anymore. If you want people to know that the old account is also yours, you can write that on your user page, but this is only optional. If in the future you are applying for a special user right, like adminship, it's wise to be open about former and alternative accounts. See WP:SOCK#LEGIT – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 21:31, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Incorrect Wikidata?

Greetings, keepers of the eternal flame!

I created Lubomirski Palace (Opole Lubelskie) some time ago, and on re-reading it I notice that that the article at pl:Pałac Lubomirskich w Krakowie in the lh 'Languages' navbox-type-thing is about an entirely different building in Krakow. An attempt to edit the Wikidata page leaves me somewhat baffled and confused. I wonder if someone could remove the offending link. I would write it myself, but I don't speak Polish. Cheers, >MinorProphet (talk) 01:48, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Hopefully these edits have fixed it. --David Biddulph (talk) 07:23, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Changes on Gita Niketan Awasiya Vidyalaya page

i am trying to update my school page.when i change this page ,my changes are restored by grayfall.whats the problem in my change? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.172.153.246 (talk) 05:29, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

110.172.153.246, hello and welcome to Wikipedia. In Wikipedia, material that you add to any article should be supported by reliable sources. In other words, at the end of every statement that you add to any article, you should provide evidence of the source from where you got this statement. Such evidence is provided through citations. Any material that is not supported by sources can be reverted by any editor, and this is what is happening to all your changes. I would suggest that you read up the following pages before editing, as repeated insertion of reverted material can get you blocked, and you have already received multiple warnings to the same effect on your talk page.

• The plain and simple conflict of interest guide
• The five pillars of Wikipedia
• Contributing to Wikipedia
• Tutorial
• How to edit a page and How to develop articles
• How to create your first article (using the Article Wizard if you wish)
• Simplified Manual of Style

Come back if you need any assistance. Lourdes 06:19, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi 110.172.153.246, even if sourced, some of your over-detailed additions, such as lists of school co-ordinators and details of house meetings, are not required (Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools/Article guidelines#What not to include).
Furthermore some of your phrases such as "taking school to new heights and flights with best possible events." are meaningless puffery and should not be included in any article - Arjayay (talk) 09:25, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Correct small but major mistake in bio

The article about Elliot Schrage incorrectly states that this individual is the president of Facebook. I can't directly fix it myself without independent review because I have a WP:COI. I explain in further detail and provide citations for the correct title here: Talk:Elliot_Schrage#Correct_major_mistake I put in a "request edit" on the Talk Page but also am raising the request here as this is a major piece of misinformation to have on Wikipedia (and showing up on search engines), especially because it seems credible given the context - this guys actually is one of the senior leaders of Facebook.BC1278 (talk) 18:07, 22 September 2016 (UTC)BC1278

 Done Looks like it was some old vandalism here. clpo13_(talk) 18:12, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

USAF question

Does becoming a U.S. Air Force pilot automatically makes you a civilian commercial pilot? Thank you a lot. --LLcentury (talk) 20:35, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 5.2 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 --David Biddulph (talk) 20:43, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

To answer your question though, no. †Dismas†|^(talk) 00:47, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

On edit counting

Hi,

I'm sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this, but I was wondering if there was some way to transclude my edit count onto my userpage. I made my 1000th edit yesterday and I don't like having to update my edit count on my page every month or so as it often falls about 100 edits shy of my real total by then.

Any and all help is appreciated.

Thank you,

YITYNR ^{My work • What's wrong?} 21:31, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

@YITYNR: You can use {{User:UBX/LiveEditCounter}}, which will show your true edit count for users who have installed the JavaScript tool (of which there unfortunately seem to be only thirty). However, for users who haven't installed the JS tool, it will still show a manually-updated count, and there is no way to do what you are looking for. Pppery 21:51, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Pppery: Thank you very much; have a nice night. However, I originally installed the script under the wrong title, so could an admin please delete User:YITYNR/LiveEditCounter.js for me?

Thanks!

YITYNR ^{My work • What's wrong?} 22:39, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

@YITYNR: What you have done with your userpage seems a bit odd to me, though. IF the script is installed, the two occurences of N+ in the userbox with the pencil icon will display your true editcount, but the place in the infobox-like thing at the top of your page wont. Pppery 22:45, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Pppery: I have installed the script, and when I saved the page the two occurrences of N+ did read '1004', which was my edit count at the time. The infobox did not, and I realised that; maybe I'll have to replace that with a "see below" message. YITYNR ^{My work • What's wrong?} 22:48, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Can't upload a file that is not harmful and it is my work.

Hi,

I have been trying edgeways to update the picture of Leticia Gomez Rivera (she is my mother, BTW) on Wikipedia. Every attempt now forbids me as it is considered harmful or not my work or both (or undetermined non-harmful).

What should I do now? I only want to update her Wikipedia entry with a better photo that I shoot myself.

Regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roberto.jimeno (talk • contribs) 22:40, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

I see you have now uploaded File:LetyGomezMexico20160320.jpg to Wikimedia Commons and added it to es:Leticia Gómez so I guess you worked it out. Note that this is a help desk for the English Wikipedia. She does not appear to have an article or photo here. I don't know Spanish but it looks like the Spanish Wikipedia has a help page at es:Wikipedia:Café/Archivo/Ayuda/Actual. Commons has a help page at commons:Commons:Help desk. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:14, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

September 23

Can someone fix the John_Roberts_(actor reference I added in the article?

I added a reference for him being of Italian descent. It's the famous birthdays website. The reference link doesn't work well. 50.68.118.24 (talk) 00:52, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

 Done. —MRD2014 (talk) (contribs) 00:56, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Test something for me, please?

If you have Revision Jumper turned on in your gadgets, could you go to this edit and click on "Next to last editor" under the revision on the left? For me, it sends me to a diff of the article on the letter A. †Dismas†|^(talk) 02:02, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

@Dismas: Yep, it does the same thing for me. My guess is the & is breaking it. User:DerHexer you may want to check up on this. RegistryKey^(RegEdit) 02:15, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

:Dismas. Do you have "Add Page and User dropdown menus to the toolbar" checked in your preferences? It is in the Appearance section and a link to User:MusikAnimal/MoreMenu. If so uncheck it and try again. This sounds similar to the problem at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 135#Cremation or burial?. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 03:20, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

That's not it. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 03:29, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Updating National Register of Historic Places

I'm totally lost about how to edit a specific subject relating to the National Register of Historic Places in Merrimack County, NH, the location for the Hill Center Church. [[2]]

The photo shown you had was of the Hill Village Union Church that wasn't built until around 1942. A photo of the Hill Center Church may be found on the Hill Historical Society's Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/746462245486245/photos/a.746466532152483.1073741828.746462245486245/824581717674297/?type=3&theater

It is located on Murray Hill Road at approximately 43.523828, -71.740725. I grew up about 0.8 miles from this church and every school morning for 12 years I walked down to this church to catch teh school nus and every evening I was dropped off there.

Unfortunately, I only have photographs of the interior but the next time I am up that way I can take a picture of the exterior.2601:18D:8102:4C9A:1898:45D5:6AF8:A041 (talk) 02:55, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Converting Google Books references to actual book citations

Is there an "automagic" tool for converting a large number of Google Books citations to cite the actual book itself? I've come across a long article that contains several dozen such references - fixing them manually will take most of the free time I have this weekend. The only such tool I know of -http://reftag.appspot.com/ - does them one at a time and requires manual input. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:13, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

@Dodger67: have you tried Template:Google books? That would save the trouble of having to convert them in the first place. RegistryKey^(RegEdit) 09:57, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

RegistryKey Thanks, that's useful if one is creating new citations, but the problem I'm trying to address is dozens of fully formatted {{Cite web}} used to reference Google Books pages. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:30, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

• Hello, Refill is better than any reference improver that I have found till now on Wikipedia. Google Books citations it can do without a blink. In fact, Refill is better than even Citation bot (the button you find to the right of the "Save" button while editing a page, if you have the citation bot gadget turned on in the preferences). In short, if you wish to correct references en masse within an article at the click of a button, this beast is the best. Lourdes 10:26, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Lourdes, I've been using Reflinks for years, it's far better than Refill. Unfortunately both Refill and Reflinks convert a Google Books bare url into a {{Cite web}}, instead of a {{Cite book}}, thus actually creating the problem I'm trying to solve. It should be fairly simple to create a script that can take the ISBN from a Google books page and feed it into any one of the already established citation creating tools. Once you have the ISBN the rest is simple. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:30, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Citing Google Books is like citing the library catalog entry instead of the book itself! It's only marginally better than citing Amazon.com or another online bookseller. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:36, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Attempts to create an account have exceeded the limit

I have tried to create an account this morning to comment on the material in a Wiki.

It seems likely that I created an account for a similar purpose in 2007.

The result is that two of my attempts at entering a username have been rejected, and the third came up showing too many attempts from my IP.

I've used computers for about 30 years now in my professional work as an academic editor, but I have found more recently that the programs are becoming ever more complex, and so unfriendly.

I would like to help both in my areas of expertise and in fields of interest where I can locate citations for verification purposes.

Jane Cowan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.207.93.92 (talk) 14:14, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Change in name - accepts edit but doesn't reflect the change

Hi, in this entry Hôtel Meurice when trying to change the name to Le Meurice as it is its correct name (see official site: https://www.dorchestercollection.com/en/paris/le-meurice/), Wikipedia keeps reverting back to Hôtel Meurice. Is there any way we can change this? Thanks 109.111.204.242 (talk) 14:30, 23 September 2016 (UTC)SearchLabs

Gemnscout (talk) 14:50, 23 September 2016 (UTC) Gemnscout (talk) 14:50, 23 September 2016 (UTC)In my initial edit, I have added links to books (but not content); associations; but not content; and redirected to another profile in Wikipedia. How does this violate copy right if I am not directly repurposing the content? By the way, this is harder than it seems. thank you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gemnscout/sandbox

Gemnscout (talk) 14:50, 23 September 2016 (UTC)