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I posted a draft for edit in my sandbox, and was not clear on the feedback I received. I probably shouldn't have (rookie), but I posted a revised version yesterday that included improved formatting. Will I receive feedback on the second version, or has it been deleted? The draft was "Trust and Track".

Thank you, Gemnscout (talk) 14:10, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Page up for speedy deletion- SOS

I need help with this speedy deletion notice i got. The page apparently reads like it's for promotion - but really i am only trying to document the existence of a new artistic form of expression. The page is: Zaphan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Xhosie (talk) 11:31, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Xhosie. Wikipedia is exactly the wrong place to document of a new thing. Indeed, it is one of our major inclusion policies that, as an encyclopedia, which by its nature is a tertiary source that provides a survey of information already the subject of publication in the wider world, we do not contain entries on things that are not yet topics of knowledge by their previous publication by third parties. Please see Wikipedia:No original research. For that reason, please document this, but not at Wikipedia. If and once it has been written about substantively by reliable, secondary, independent sources like newspapers books and magazines, only then might it be suitable for a Wikipedia entry. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:18, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Sway Wiki Page

• Sway (musician) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I'm trying to edit Sway (musician) wiki page but, after several format issues and 'vandalism' errors (I assure you it was not vandalism but having difficulty in editing a wiki page) the page can only be edited by established registered users. I have since found references for most claims and would now like to update the wiki page. Can somebody help me do this please? Thanks Jessien23 (talk) 10:03, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Can I add an image to a Wikipedia Celebrity Page?

• Neha Mahajan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Its been 4 days since I created a Wiki account and have done 10 edits so far. Can I now add an image in the main description of a celebrity page?

If yes, how to do it?

If no, why can't I do it and what should be done?

I would provide the source of the image while uploading it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CrazyEditor7781 (talk • contribs) 08:08, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

@CrazyEditor7781: Welcome to the Teahouse. Your comment that you would provide the source of the image implies that you are not the source yourself. In other words, you did not take the photo. You cannot upload any image of a living person such as a celebrity unless you have solid evidence in writing that the image has been released under an acceptable Creative Commons or equivalent license, or that the image is free of copyright. The vast majority of images that you find online are restricted by copyright and not allowed on Wikipedia.

If I am wrong and you took the photo yourself, then I apologize and you can upload it to Wikimedia Commons under an acceptable license.

You cannot upload images of living celebrities unless they meet our licensing standards because we are a free encyclopedia and we allow the widest possible free re-use of our content. Widespread use of copyrighted images is incompatible with that goal. As for what should be done, there are several choices: You can take a photo yourself and upload it as I described. You can find a photo that complies with our policies. You can decide to live with the lack of a photo. The choice is yours. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 09:11, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

CrazyEditor7781: this depends on the copyright status of the image. Is there a particular image you want to use? If there is, where is it at present? Maproom (talk) 09:04, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Someone to reorganize the Text "Joelle Khoury", already published

• Joelle Khoury (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
• Draft:Joelle KHOURY (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• User:Musicleb/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello, Is there any chance someone could reorganize the text "Joelle Khoury", to comply with Wikipedia's layout guidelines and to make improvements to the overall structure (division by sections, etc) ?

Thank you so much for your help.

Musicleb (talk) 08:01, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Musicleb, welcome to the Teahouse. It seems that you did a cut & paste move of your draft into article space, but the way it was done lost all of the formatting and included a considerable amount of inappropriate content (things like "[edit]", unlinked reference numbers, the table of contents as text, and multiple copies of the references but without their links, etc). I have tagged the main article for deletion, as it seems the easiest way to deal with this is to continue work on the draft until it is properly ready for publication. I have added the Articles for Creation draft header for it, so please proceed with the review process to properly prepare the article for publication. Once the review is accepted via AfC, it can be moved to the main article space in a way that properly preserves formatting. Thanks. Murph9000 (talk) 08:37, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Additionally, I'm not convinced that it meets our Wikipedia:Notability (music) standard in its current form. Please read that link and try to improve the draft so that the notability clearly meets Wikipedia's standards. Published articles which fail to meet the notability standard (with good references to reliable sources that support the notability) tend to get deleted quite quickly. Murph9000 (talk) 08:44, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

user name

Hi - I'm new, and am wondering if there is a way to change my user name? I'm currently Mirotvorets395, but just found out that Mirotvorets is the name of a Ukrainian website that does all sorts of dastardly things. I don't want to be associated with that. How do I change my name? I've only made one edit so far. Can you help me change my name? How about just "Lefty Coastal"? Is that possible? Thanks for any help. Mirotvorets395 (talk) 02:58, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Mirotvorets395: See Special:GlobalRenameRequest. Tropicalkitty (talk) 03:03, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

would like editorial commentary about a page I've put in Draft:

• Draft:Justin Cappos (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• User:Kgberg/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I have put a page in draft that I would like to take to wikipedia proper but want to make sure it passes muster. It is a page about a computer scientist of some note. I had made the mistake of being an overly optimistic beginner -- I'd thought that I merely had to create a page about him and hoist it into wikipedia. I ended up hoisting myself on my own petard with that effort. It was marked for deletion for a number of reasons. So I put it in dry-dock as a draft. After major fixes I feel it's ready to sail. Can I submit it here for comment before I make it live again?DKgberg (talk) 23:30, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

First, please do not create multiple copies of drafts on the same person or other topic. It wastes time and annoys the reviewers. Which version do you want reviewed, User:Kgberg/sandbox or Draft:Justin Cappos? If you want the sandbox draft reviewed, some reviewers would prefer to move it to draft space that is now occupied by a draft, so, if you don't want the version in draft space to be reviewed, you can request that it be deleted. Second, I will note, without reviewing your draft in detail, that both versions have numerous external links in the article body. They are not permitted. You may replace them with just names, or may make them into references, or may put them in an external links section. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:03, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Problem at Orders of magnitude (probability)

I just added probability entries from Orders of magnitude (numbers) and I am faced with a Example text messup. I tried to use both source and visual editing to fix it but I couldn't. I am trying to find an expert in the WikiField of charts and graphs who knows how to fix those kinds of problems. Hopefully there is someone at the Teahouse who could help fix the list chart. — Darth Tacker (talk • contribs) 23:01, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

@Darth Tracker: I think that fixed it. The issue was in the rowspan css being immediately followed by "|||" in the table formatting. But, to be honest, I was just guessing at the problem at first. Anyway, when applying css, you need to have a space between the first "|" and following "||". I first did this by using a newline, but changing it to "| ||" follows the format better. -- The Voidwalker ^Whispers 23:15, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Sandbox to the Real World!

• User:Rhian Griffiths/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I'm working away in the sandbox, but at some point in a month or so I would like to move my sandbox work onto the main wiki pages, how do I go about doing that?Rhian Griffiths (talk) 20:23, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Rhian. Assuming you're using the default skin (Vector), click on "more" from the menu at the top of the page and then click on move. See File:Vector hidden move button.png for an illustration, and Wikipedia:Moving a page for lots of explanation.

As to the draft, I offer some hopefully constructive criticism. The draft launches into the topic without a lead section. That first part of an article introduces the subject, names it in boldface in the first sentence, and then summarizes the content of the article in three to four paragraphs. That should be added before a move to the mainspace.

Please make sure that, with the exception of short quotations, clearly marked as such using quote marks, followed directly by an inline citation, the article is entirely written in your own words – we cite sources to verify the information an article contains, but not the words or sentences used. Note that surface modification; changing a word here and word there from original content, is not sufficient to avoid copyright infringement. I say this because, though a quick look did not find large-scale copying, the first sentence blatantly infringes on Warfield Church's website content.

Finding that, I am compelled to wonder if other parts of the content are also copied (especially combined with seeing that 17,000 bytes of the content was added in a single edit). You might have just copied that one sentence and everything else is okay from a copyright standpoint, but please advise, and if you have copied, you need to remove all that material and completely rewrite in your own word.

If the copyright issue is put to bed, then I hope you can go through and rewrite content that contains promotional language. See Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, WP:PROMOTION, WP:PEACOCK, etc. The draft is not as egregious as some we see, but it still contains obviously promotional content. For instance, the draft states: "this extraordinary building that existed before the Battle of Hastings will undoubtedly be here to serve many generations to come" ... "St Michaels would soon become a venue for a range of exciting youth and children’s initiatives" ... "Revd Mark Griffiths had a passion for child evangelism" and so forth.

Lastly, much of the content is unsourced. Every single fact in an article must be able to be verified in a reliable source. (Wikipedia is never properly the place to first publish facts about anything; an encyclopedia synthesizes already published material.) It may be you are working on that, but please be aware of it and ruthlessly remove anything that you cannot source. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:50, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

I have added a {{user sandbox}} template to the top of the draft. This means that rather than moving the page yourself to mainspace you can, if you wish, use the "Submit" button to submit the draft for review through the WP:AFC procedure. --David Biddulph (talk) 22:08, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

uploaded some photos and now i can't find them

Hi, I uploaded some photos and then lost the links to insert them. how can i find them again?Lovingtheroots (talk) 17:47, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

I assume you are referring to these additions that you made at Commons? Commons works like en.wikipedia, go to the site here log in, if you are not already logged in, and click "Contributions" (one in from the RH end in the top line) - Arjayay (talk) 17:57, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

I've been asked to edit an elected official's page. He wants some content removed.

• George Maragos (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Please help. The political views have changed and he'd like to add his current viewpoint. Please help Longisland46 (talk) 17:33, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

We have no interest whatsoever in what the subject of an article wants included or excluded from their article. We are only interested in what reliable independent sources have already covered. Assuming "his current viewpoint" can be cited in reliable independent sources, this could be added, but his previous views need to remain as well. We are here to record such changes, not re-write history. Given that you have been asked to edit that page, you have a conflict of interest, so should not edit the page itself, but suggest changes on the articles talk page. Please read and follow our guidance on conflict of interest, in particular note that if you are proposing edits as part of your job, or are otherwise being paid, you need to disclose this on your User talk page. - Arjayay (talk) 17:48, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

citation from a movie

Hi there,

I am editing a musicians page. I saw a movie called Fear X (i have the dvd) and this musician had two songs in the movie, but it's not listed anywhere online. How can I verify this? The only place I've ever seen it written is in the credits at the end of the movie.

Thanks!Lovingtheroots (talk) 14:26, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Lovingtheroots. You can cite the film itself using {{Cite AV media}}. Joe Roe (talk) 14:31, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

how to insert external referneces

• Draft:Dana LaCroix (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

hi, i'm editing a musicians page and i have all kind of external links that verify the info i've gathered. how do i reference these? (i'd like a little number 1 to appear at the end of the information that goes to the ref section at the bottom, where I'd like to insert a link. Lovingtheroots (talk) 14:03, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Lovingtheroots
Please see Help:Referencing for beginners - any questions, please come back here and ask - Arjayay (talk) 14:06, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Moving entry from draft to published

• Draft:Deep Earth Carbon Degassing Project (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi -

I Made an entry as a draft, but was then informed since I am an autoconfirmed user I don't need to go through the draft process. How do I move this page from draft to published?

Thanks Metocguy (talk) 13:51, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Metocguy
As your account became autoconfirmed about a year ago, you can move it yourself - please see WP:MOVE for the explanation and dos and don'ts - Arjayay (talk) 13:56, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

That worked. Thanks! Metocguy (talk) 15:04, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

How to validate a requested edit on a talk page?

• Louise Blouin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hi all,

I have requested that an edit be made to an article on 24, March 2016 (Talk:Louise Blouin) and I have still no answer. Do you have any advice for me?

Thank you very much! Lbm user2015 (talk) 08:26, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. That page doesn't have many watchers, but hopefully this question will attract attention. I would advise that you expand the bare urls, and then someone may be more likely to respond. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:02, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Too local so was not accepted

Draft:L.A. Watts Summer Games (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

My page was not accepted because he said it was too local, but it is and always has been a Los Angeles event. So, my sources are the LA Times and other Los Angeles publications. What do I do to fix it without them being more specific.Jrmeizlish (talk) 23:27, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Jrmeizlish and welcome to the Teahouse. Events which only affect a local area generally do not meet Wikipedia's special concept of "notability". In particular see WP:GEOSCOPE which says: "An event affecting a local area and reported only by the media within the immediate region may not necessarily be notable." So it may not be a matter of how the article is written - the event itself may not be suitable for Wikipedia. See whether you can find in-depth coverage of the event in broader, reputable sources (not just local ones) to establish its notability.--Gronk Oz (talk) 03:35, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Review of a Page

• Draft:Gc Watches (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, I've tried creating a page a few times, and unfortunately used too much promotional language so it was deleted (more than once.. oops!) with some advice from an admin I've created a draft page that I hope to get moved to being live but before that I'd like to ask for any advice to improve the current article! Thanks Croftleah (talk) 17:25, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Croftleah. The thing to remember is that what goes into a Wikipedia article is not what you know, or what I know, and it is certainly not anything the subject has said about themselves. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no conenction with the subject have published about the subject. If you can't find a reliable published source for some information (which excludes anything from a blog, a wiki, or social media) don't put it in the article. And for anything other than uncontroversial factual information like locations and dates, if you can't find a published source which is wholly independent of the subject (which excludes anything based on press releases or interviews), don't put it in the article.

Most of the references in your draft are not independent, as they are based on interviews or press releases: you need to find independnet sources. And what Marciano may have said about himself or his company is not relevant to a Wikipedia article, unless possibly an independent commentator has discussed (not just quoted) what he says. --ColinFine (talk) 21:14, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Croftleah. The draft still reads as blatantly promotional. Encyclopedia articles don't usually, for example, contain flowery superlative quotes about how incredibly wonderful a topic is. Please also post your mandatory disclosure as a financially compensated editor before making further edits or respond to the message posted at your talk page that you are not—though it is exceedingly rare for a person to come here and edit all about a commercial venture if they are not. Also, since you released the copyright to GC Watches' logo at the Commons (by the way, it is very unusual for a commercial company to do that) that is essentially an admission that you are intimately involved in the company (or violating copyright in that upload; hard to find any daylight between those two positions).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:48, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Paul Godfrey (lyricist) article query

• Paul Godfrey (lyricist) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Is there any information that you would advise I add to make this article deemed notable. It seems strange that it is up for deletion when there are lesser artists who have pages on Wikipedia. Samfov (talk) 15:59, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia makes no judgment about whether a subject is "great", Samfov, or indeed whether they are famous, popular, influential, important, worthy, good, bad, evil, or any other value-based judgment. The only relevant judgment is whether there exist sufficient published resources which are both from reliable publishers and completely independent of the subject, because an article should be written only from such sources. If such sources exist, we say the subject is notable (in Wikipedia's special sense) and there may be an article about them. If such sources do not exist, or are only superficial, then it is literally impossible to write a satisfactory article about the subject, so Wikipedia forbids the attempt.

It may well be that some of the articles on "lesser" artists that you mention should be deleted: our standards used to be more lax, and we have more than five million articles. If you think that some of them are not notable (in Wikipedia's sense) you are welcome to nominate them for deletion: see Deletion process. --ColinFine (talk) 18:20, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

seeking help for completing my new draft article with Category, Personal Data etc.

• Draft:Medhananda (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello, I have written an English article about a notable person in the field of psychology and philosophy who is already "present" with an article in the German Wikipedia for one year (which I had written myself and edited with the help of a German mentor, who helped with the technical details) and in the French Wikipedia. Now I have prepared a similar English article in the draft section with references etc in the style Wikipedia requires. But I need some technical advice for adding the Categories in which the article should appear. Is there somebody who is interested in Psychology and Philosophy, and could help me do the "finish" of the article? Many thanks GoldenerBallGoldenerBall (talk) 15:06, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

@GoldenerBall:. I do not see any references to independent, reliable sources in your draft article. Here on the English Wikipedia, articles must summarize what truly independent sources say about the topic. All of your references are either affiliated with Medhananda, or are explanatory notes rather than references to sources. In addition, your draft is not written from the neutral point of view. It makes various remarkable and opinionated statements about dreams and mythology in Wikipedia's voice, as if they were indisputably true. That is not an appropriate encyclopedic style of writing. Your tone is promotional. I would start all over again, summarizing only what reliable, independent sources say about this person, writing in a scrupulously neutral tone. Categories should be added only after a draft article is accepted to main space. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:33, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

How do I attach a link after I finished editing, backing up why I made changes?

Redpanda6633 (talk) 14:15, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. If you are asking how to include a reference, for example to support this change, then try Help:Referencing for beginners. For the future, it is wiser to include references in the same edit as you change the text, as otherwise your text changes may be reverted as unsourced. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:13, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Untranslated hidden text, and ambiguous access date

Caña de millo has two untranslated sections (i.e., still in Spanish) at the end of the article, hidden in an <!-- HTML comment -->. I have added {{Expand Spanish}} at the end of the article, plus the following note (because this is not the usual use of that template, and I don't know of a more appropriate one):

NOTE: There are two sections at the end of this article that are (still) in Spanish, hidden in an HTML comment: "Características" and "Ejecución". They should be translated and unhidden, with or without use of the es:wiki article. 

By the way...

1. The last two translated sections still had their titles in Spanish. I translated those to English, and added anchors for the previous titles on the preceding line..
2. See Talk:Caña de millo § Fondación date. I don't think it's that important to get the access date for a 2011 access accurate to less than a month, and I've tried the only thing I could think of, without success.

Please {{Ping}} me to discuss. --Thnidu (talk) 06:17, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Thnidu: The "Note" which you added to the article, and repeated above, should not be part of the article. I have therefore removed it from the article and placed it on the article's talk page, which is the preferred place for discussing improvements to the article. Maproom (talk) 07:26, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Within a reference, can a comment be removed?

Greetings, For example, at article Ancient Diocese of Alais there is comment ( <!-- Bot generated title --> ) wikicode within a reference. Can or should this be deleled? There are additional articles with this same comment, so I am asking here for help. Thanks. — JoeHebda • (talk) 20:39, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello fellow Joe. Text contained in <!-- this markup --> doesn't...shouldn't have any effect on the way the article displays. If it does for some reason, it can probably be removed with no consequence. A lot of times this is used in article to note where an extensive, but still somewhat controversial consensus has been achieved and should be respected, especially where casual editors who are unaware are likely to make well meaning contributions against consensus. For example, say...if Japan, Korea, and China disagreed on what the real name of a body of water is, and it gets changed on nearly a daily basis. TimothyJosephWood 21:42, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi JoeHebda. The short answer is yes, but it indicates that a human hasn't looked it over yet. Reference titles added the by bot often aren't very good and references need more than a title. Complete the information needed so it has a title, publisher, author if there is one, date if there is one. Then remove the comment. StarryGrandma (talk) 21:50, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi, JoeHebda. Another example is when I did this to (hopefully) deter some unwanted date changes. When used correctly, they don't affect the appearance of an article at all, but edits like this one can unintentionally make entire sections disappear, as I learned that day. (Thankfully, that was quickly noticed by another user and we eventually figured out the problem — the extra ! at the end of the invisible comment.) -- Gestrid (talk) 22:17, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi all, Thank you for these answers. Cheers! — JoeHebda • (talk) 00:43, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

How do I find an article to edit?

I need help finding articles that need editing that I know enough about to edit. How do I find any? H0lly (talk) 19:47, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi H0lly, there are many ways. You can get User:SuggestBot to leave a list of interesting articles on your talk page. You can also look at the WikiProject Directory and join any of interest, which will probably have a list of articles needing work. You can also click the random article button. One thing I like to do is search for categories, like typing Category:Horses or whatever into the search box. When the category comes up, you can look at and edit the articles within the category. White Arabian Filly ^Neigh 20:23, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

You can also click here to do so VarunFEB2003 15:40, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Why is my page not conforming to guidelines

• VeeU Ltd. (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hi guys, the page I have written has not been accepted and I'm not sure why. Its short and sweet, doesn't contain any explicit, offensive or graphic content. Please can someone explain to me what rules the page is breaking. Thanks in advance, Si. SiMutch (talk) 19:29, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

It is written in promotional language (which could be fixed) and cites no references at all to establish that its subject is notable (which probably can't be). Maproom (talk) 19:46, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. To start with you need to read the various links provided in the welcome message on your user talk page, including WP:Your first article. Your article has no references, has no demonstration of notability, has numerous inappropriate inline external links, is written addressing the reader in the second person (see MOS:YOU), and has been summarised as "... serves only to promote or publicise an entity, person, product, or idea, and would require a fundamental rewrite in order to become encyclopedic." --David Biddulph (talk) 19:44, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

User CSS Question

How do I create a page in my userspace with the .css extension? Gary "Roach" Sanderson (talk) 19:11, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Gary, welcome to the Teahouse. You just visit Special:MyPage/common.css (local to English Wikipedia), or meta:Special:MyPage/global.css (all WMF wikis), and create the page. They are also linked from the Appearance tab of your preferences. If you need more detail than that, please ask. See also: Help:User style Murph9000 (talk) 19:25, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

@Gary "Roach" Sanderson: Note that you can also create pages in JavaScript (.js). You can go to either Special:MyPage/common.js (local to English Wikipedia) or meta:Special:MyPage/global.js (all WMF wikis) to create them. Also note that there are other CSS and JavaScript pages you can create. All or most of them should have a link to them in your preferences (linked above). If you're planning on using a script someone else has already written, most of them contain instructions about where to put them. -- Gestrid (talk) 20:38, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

You can also create a page with some other name and CSS extension like User:Username/Pagename.css VarunFEB2003 15:41, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

can i delete a redirection?

• Nursing Studies (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I started an article about the first nursing department in a UK university 'Nursing Studies' however it has been deleted and redirected to nursing education which is not the article topic. Can I do anything? Nursingafwood (talk) 14:45, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

The redirection was explained in the edit summary for this edit. To justify a separate article you would have to show that the department had received significant coverage (separate from the university as a whole) in published reliable sources independent of the subject. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:02, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

You can't delete pages unless you are an administrator. But you canask for it to be deleted. Gary "Roach" Sanderson (talk) 19:08, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

I don't think it's really a deletion that Nursingafwood is asking for, Gary "Roach" Sanderson: if it were deleted then searching for the page would bring up nothing (or rather, would do a general search) . I think they want it to be an article in its own right. Nursingafwood, it is in fact possible to edit the redirect page and to change it to an article (after you let it redirect you, you pick the link at the top where it says "Redirected from Nursing Studies" and then you will see the redirect page that you can edit). But I suggest that you don't do that until you have discussed it with WikiDan61.

In fact, I see that what you have done, Nursingafwood, is to redirect Nursing education to your new draft Nursing Studies University of Edinburgh. This is certainly incorrect, and I have undone it: a general topic should not redirect to a specific department. If your new draft is accepted, there could be a WP:Hatnote at the top of Nursing Studies to say something like "For the depart of this name at the University of Edinburgh, see ... ", but not a redirection, because if somebody comes looking for "Nursing studies" they are far more likely to be looking for an article about the subject in general than for a department which happens to have that name. Your draft also does not follow Wikipedia's naming conventions. I strongly advise you to read your first article, Nursingafwood, and create your draft in draft space using the Article wizard. Or you could move your draft to draft space. --ColinFine (talk) 22:34, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

@Nursingafwood: As the "culprit" in this case, perhaps I can explain further. The original article at Nursing Studies was an article about one university's Nursing Studies program, an article that would not have passed a deletion discussion based on WP:OUTCOMES, where it has been generally agreed that individual university programs are not notable in the absence of significant coverage of that program separate from the university. If the original article had asserted sufficient notability, I would have moved it anyway, because the title "Nursing Studies" is far too generic. As it stands, the title did not make for a valid redirect (to University of Edinburgh, for example) because, again, it is far too generic. I disagree with @ColinFine:'s suggestion of the hatnote, as again, the general title "Nursing Studies" is far too generic to have hatnotes pointing to specific nursing programs (to be fair, we'd need to add a hatnote pointing to every nursing studies article on Wikipedia!). Instead, I recommend leaving the "Nursing Studies" article as a redirect to Nursing education, and adding the Nursing Studies University of Edinburgh (should that article pass its present deletion discussion) to a list of nursing education programs, if such a list exists, or to the appropriate category. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 22:55, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

How do i go about changing the name of an article?

• Paul Godfrey (lyricist) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I have created an article for Paul Godfrey, who is the founding member of the band Morcheeba. When creating it my original name for the article was Paul Godfrey (Morcheeba). I understand having (morcheeba) in brackets doesn't follow guidelines as I was advised this is why it was changed. However It has now been changed to Paul Godfrey (Lyricist). I don't feel that lyricist best describes Paul as a musician. I would prefer if it were Paul Godfrey (Musician) or just Paul Godfrey on its own. Any help would be appreciated. Samfov (talk) 14:12, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

It isn't Paul Godfrey (Lyricist), but Paul Godfrey (lyricist); case is significant in Wikipedia page titles. You can't use Paul Godfrey, as that is a Canadian businessman. Paul Godfrey (Musician) would be wrong on case grounds, but Paul Godfrey (musician) might be acceptable, so the process would be to "move" the article. It probably isn't worth worrying too much about the title until the current deletion discussion is complete. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:57, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Just a note that you, Samfov, have been asked to explain yourself further at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul Godfrey (lyricist). -- Gestrid (talk) 23:09, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Stub Images

Anyone know how to alter the stub image that comes up when you search for an article? The logo for an article is fine on the page, but too tall for the stub. I have a square version but don't know how to upload.

Om285 (talk) 13:26, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Om285, welcome to the Teahouse. I guess you refer to searches at the mobile version. The image is chosen automatically from images on the page. See mw:Extension:PageImages#Image choice. There is no support for editing articles or images to try to manipulate the choice. Logos are often uploaded with a fair-use claim and such images will not be chosen for copyright reasons. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:37, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Page redirected from old username

How to stop a page from getting redirected from previously used username?The page created gets displayed on search engines via the previously used username which has now been changed.Chic500 (talk) 11:43, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello Chic500. Can you tell us what article you are talking about? Or is it your own username? Joe Roe (talk) 11:52, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

The article is about a Mountaineer,Satyarup Siddhanta. And it is my previous username AnweshaB. The link to it https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User:Chic500&redirect=no Chic500 (talk) 12:00, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Another user has removed the redirect for you. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:44, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

The page is still visible over the internet with same display title as that of old username and gets redirected to the old page as well.The link (redirected from:old username) is still available. Could I change the display title? Chic500 (talk) 14:21, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Neither User:AnweshaB nor User:Chic500 will now redirect to Draft:Satyarup Siddhanta. If you are looking somewhere else on the internet, outside of Wikipedia, then that is not Wikipedia's problem. You will either need to take the problem up with them or just to wait for them to empty their caches or otherwise correct the problem. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:33, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

As User, User talk, Draft and Draft talk pages are automatically noindexed via a software setting, they should not be appearing in search engine indexes any case. - Arjayay (talk) 14:43, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Reuse of Wikipedia text

Can I simply copy and paste text (with citations) from another article on Wikipedia? Or do I have to rephrase the material as well? Best wishes. RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 09:48, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi RobbieIanMorrison. You can copy text within Wikipedia if you credit the source in the edit summary with a link and text like copied content from [[page name]]; see that page's history for attribution. See more at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. If you copy citations then please check that they display correctly on the new page. They sometimes rely on other parts of the old page. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:15, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello PrimeHunter. Many thanks for the prompt reply. RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 10:58, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

I am not allowed to put up a page on GAME (an NGO)

• Draft:GAME (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi.

I tried a couple of times to put up an article regarding GAME (a danish/lebanese NGO). Both its size and its international ambitions make the organization mention-worthy I think. How do I get it up?

Best regards, Malte MalteKBH (talk) 06:45, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello Malte (MalteKBH). I cannot talk directly to the issue of notability in your case. But it would help considerably if you referenced your draft article with full citations, as recommended in Wikipedia:Citing sources § Generally considered helpful:

improving existing citations by adding missing information, such as by replacing bare URLs with full bibliographic citations: an improvement because it aids verifiability, and fights linkrot.

That would enable the reviewer to quickly gain an understanding of the quality of your secondary sources. For more information on citing sources, see Wikipedia:Citing sources. Hope this helps. RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 09:41, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Improve the text "Joelle Khoury" for publishing

• Draft:Joelle KHOURY (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Could you please advice what to specify or eventually delete in the text ? What seems superfluos... What parts do I have to stress on? Article "Joelle Khoury" (Draft)

Thank you so much for your help. Musicleb (talk) 04:30, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

@Musicleb: Welcome to the Teahouse. Most sections of your article lack references to reliable, independent sources. These sections need to be properly referenced or removed. A Wikipedia article should summarize what such independent sources say, and many of your sources do not appear to be independent. So, I also recommend that you remove the weak sources and try to find better sources. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:09, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

How to add an image in article?

• Maasi Aur Malka (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
• Rishton Ki Dor (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
• Sila Aur Jannat (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I want to add images in articles,i createdAnaskhan000 (talk) 16:15, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Anaskhan000, and welcome to the Teahouse. Unfortunately, you still have to wait for your account to be autoconfirmed before you can upload images. This is to protect against image vandalism (such as, for example, mass upload of copyrighted images). However, once your account has made 10 edits in total and has been active for 4 days, you will automatically be autoconfirmed and be able to upload images using this form. -- Gestrid (talk) 17:23, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Anaskhan000, see Help:Files for an overview of how to upload and use images. If the creator of an image has explicitly licensed it for reuse by anyone for anything, you could upload it to Commons without being autoconfirmed. But images relating to your soap operas are probably not licensed that way; so you will have to wait till you are autoconfirmed. —teb728 t c 19:25, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

And if the images are indeed not licensed, you must study the Non-free content criteria and use them only in a way which complies with all the criteria, Anaskhan000}. It is one of the unfortunate consequences of Wikipedia's policy of making everything freely available for reuse that the use of images is very constrained in Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 17:42, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Create an infobox

• Muhadin Kishev (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I would be grateful for some help in creating an infobox for my article MUHADIN KISHEV. Thank you Dywana (talk) 18:50, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

I've fixed the infobox at Draft:Muhadin_Kishev for you. Mduvekot (talk) 19:54, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Dywana: I am concerned about the gallery in that draft. Has the artist released his copyright in those fifteen paintings? Maproom (talk) 09:05, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Maproom: Thank you for your concern about the Gallery on my draft article: MUHADIN KISHEV. I had my doubts as to whether I have used the correct format. I uploaded them via Wikicommons. The artist is happy for the images to be there and has given his verbal consent, it should mean that they can be used as long as the provenance and all the details about the painting are included. The images are not large enough to be reproduced as prints. I just thought that on a page about an artist it is interesting to see some images, as art is about that, about images, rather than words. Also I considered it significant for the wide range of his work to be seen, from the Soviet period up to his work today. I had a look at the Wikipedia "Zagraevsky" page and saw that he also had a Gallery which gave me the idea. Finally thank you for your magic help. I got up this morning determined to tackle the infobox and found that it had all been done for me. I really do appreciate that!! Dywana (talk) 10:25, 25 September 2016 (UTC)DywanaDywana (talk) 10:25, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Dywana. I'm afraid verbal permission is not enough: in order for a file to be accepted on Wikimedia commons, it must be explicitly released by the copyright holder under a licence such as CC-BY-SA, which will allow anybody to reuse it for any purpose (including commercially) as long as they attribute it. It is unlikely that an artist would agree to do this, but if they do, they (not you) need to follow the procedure in donating copyright materials.

Usually for an artist, the best that can be done is one or maybe two images uploaded to Wikipedia (not to Commons) under the non-free content criteria: note that the use must match all of these criteria (which is why only one or two images would be allowed).

It is a pity especially for articles about artists that this is the case; but one of Wikipedia's principles is that its contents be reusable. The article can of course contain a link to the artist's website. --ColinFine (talk) 10:41, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

ColinFine: Thank you for the clarification about the images. Could you advise me as how to proceed? The article has already been approved and is on Wikipedia class C. Shall I delete the Gallery from the article? What shall I do about the works being on Wikicommons? Can I delete them from there? Dywana (talk) 13:12, 25 September 2016 (UTC)DywanaDywana (talk) 13:12, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

You cannot delete the images from Commons, but you can go there and request their deletion. The procedure is described here. This will cause them to be deleted in a few days, and after that, the gallery in the draft will stop showing them, and become a gallery with missing images. Maproom (talk) 13:40, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

So I would suggest that you do remove the gallery from the article, Dywana, and consider if you want to upload and add one of the pictures under the NFCC. Paradoxically, you don't even need the artist's agreement to do this! --ColinFine (talk) 17:39, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Thank you ColinFine for your advice. I will set about doing that right now. I am sorry to have made this mistake with the images. Dywana (talk) 11:04, 27 September 2016 (UTC)DywanaDywana (talk) 11:04, 27 September 2016 (UTC)