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Varvara Semennikova

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Aside from more specific considerations such as WP:1E (her alleged notability stems from maybe being very old but maybe not, thus the one event I refer to here is "getting really old" not "an individual birthday") and WP:NOTNEWSPAPER, this individual does not seem to meet the general guidelines of WP:N. There is no Wikipedia policy that grants automatic notability to people of an extreme age (numerous AfDs on the "oldest" individuals have been kept or deleted based on their individual merits), which makes WP:N the relevant policy. Specifically, I do not see any evidence of non-trivial coverage in multiple, independent third-party sources. She seems to have had brief bursts of attention and a handful of clone or near-clone obituaries after her death, meaning that she lacks the sustained coverage that would distinguish her from thousands of other individuals claiming (falsely or otherwise) to be very old. There's nothing here of encyclopedic merit that could not be covered by the longevity claims article. Canadian Paul 14:24, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Two of the three sources are dead, but appear to be simply routine obits mentioning this doubtful longevity claim (which is in keeping with the common "people in Region R live a long time" trope). E Eng 09:59, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Utterly non-routine obituaries that back a strong claim of notability, as the world's oldest person. That the claim is unverified and potentially false is no more a reason to delete this article than to delete the articles for Black helicopter, grey alien or Bigfoot; nor do sources have to be readily linkable to be reliable and verifiable. Alansohn (talk) 03:42, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:51, 19 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Appears to be routine obituaries and a vague mention that she enjoyed eating fish. Doesn't pass WP:GNG. ~ Rob₁₃^Talk 09:55, 19 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Notability is not established by old age nor how long a thing has existed.--Rpclod (talk) 14:34, 19 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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 <small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:Northamerica1000|North America]]<sup>[[User talk:Northamerica1000|<font size="-2">1000</font>]]</sup></span> 03:51, 19 November 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:Relist --><noinclude>[[Category:Relisted AfD debates|Varvara Semennikova]]</noinclude></div><!-- Please add new comments below this line -->
 *'''Delete'''. Appears to be routine obituaries and a vague mention that she enjoyed eating fish. Doesn't pass [[WP:GNG]]. ~ [[User:BU Rob13|<b>Rob</b><small><sub>13</sub></small>]]<sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">[[User talk:BU Rob13|Talk]]</sup> 09:55, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
+*'''Delete''' - Notability is not established by [[WP:OLDAGE|old age]] nor [[WP:OLDSUBJECT|how long a thing has existed]].--[[User:Rpclod|Rpclod]] ([[User talk:Rpclod|talk]]) 14:34, 19 November 2016 (UTC)