Talk:Espanto I

GA Review

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Reviewer: Wugapodes (talk · contribs) 23:06, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Note This review is part of a series of reviews by an editor on articles of a similar topic. Because of this, the various reviews may reference each other. Please also see Los Espantos, Espanto I, Espanto II, Espanto III, Espanto IV and V, Espanto Jr., Espanto Jr. (CMLL), and Los Hijos del Espanto if things are unclear. Disclosure: Both the nom and reviewer are participating in the WikiCup, if need be, anyone may request a second opinion if they feel my review is not following the GA criteria. Thanks. Wugapodes [t^hɔk] [kantʃɻɪbz] 23:06, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Checklist

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

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1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:

   B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. Has an appropriate reference section:

   B. Cites reliable sources, where necessary:

   C. No original research:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused (see summary style):

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

   The El Siglo de Torreón quote needs fixed in the articles, but that's it

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

Comments

If the comment is numbered, it must be addressed for the article to pass, if it is bulleted, it's an optional suggestion or comment that you don't need to act on right now.
When I quote things, you can use ctrl+f to search the page for the specific line I quoted.

1. "Lagunero town" what does that mean? It should be clear in the prose.

   That's the region of Mexico, I will remove it to simplify

2. " While in school (Escuela México)" is Escuela México the particular school? It's unclear why that is mentioned.

   Looking at it now, that's how I have seen it referred to in the 1-2 English sources I found in my research. I removed that part to avoid any confusion.

3. "a friendship that was close that they considered each others brothers" I combined this with the following sentence. I assume they have the same source? If not that should be fixed as well.

   Yep they do, that works for me.

4. "[Espanto I] made his EMLL debut on December 16, 1959...While Espanto I worked in Mexico City, Espanto II was gaining more experience locally before being called up to Mexico City as well. Los Hermanos Espanto made their debut as a team on December 16, 1959" I think one of these dates is wrong, or the meaning is unclear. As I read it, Espanto I debuted on Dec. 16 and at that same time Espanto II was not in the EMLL, but then the next paragraph says they made their debut together on Dec. 16 so I'm a little confused.

   Hmmm let me check on what the sources say for dates, one is clearly wrong

   Yep the team date is a copy & paste error, they made their debut as a team on January 24, 1961 - made sure it is fixed in all articles.

5. "In November 1962 Espanto I and II were joined by Espanto III..." This paragraph is a bit more clear than the Los Espantos wording, though still could use some work (but it's passable in my opinion). Id suggest the wording in that article mirror this one.

   Done

6. Same note about the El Siglo de Torreón quote. Once you get more reaction sources adding them into these articles would be a significant improvement.

   Done

• "As Los Espantos the three became one of the first "Identical teams" in Mexico." This is something that you might want to include in Los Espantos as well.

I will make sure it's in there.

• Is there a reason the duo is referred to as "Los Hermanos Espantos" in this article but "Los Espantos" in the other? It's not a big problem, I'm just trying to discern a pattern.

The names are basically interchangeable, 60-40 split in sources between just "Espantos" and "Hermanos Espantos".  MPJ-US  02:12, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Results

On hold for a length to be determined. Wugapodes [t^hɔk] [kantʃɻɪbz] 01:23, 12 June 2016 (UTC) Passed Wugapodes [t^hɔk] [kantʃɻɪbz] 03:42, 13 June 2016 (UTC)