Talk:Tiger

How big are they without the tail?

Without (bla bla bla. wiki leaks is boss. what up mate? USA USA USA USA) knowing how long their tails are, giving a measure from head to tail isn't very helpful to give an idea of how big they are. --186.204.50.67 (talk) 03:36, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi. The article states - "Of a tiger's total length, the tail comprises 0.6 to 1.1 m (2.0 to 3.6 ft).[13]". Does this help?__DrChrissy (talk) 08:59, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

I've reorganised that section slightly to emphasise the aforementioned statement re: tail length. In addition, the Siberian tiger's dimensions as given in the table specifically call out body and tail length as distinct (appropriately I think, as this subspecies represents the extreme end of size comparison). Shoebox2 talk 13:15, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

I tried editing the tables with seperate columns for "weight", "length with tail" and "length without tail" but the table looked awful so I scrapped it.__DrChrissy (talk) 15:12, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

I guess it looked really messy?!?! Lavinder111 (talk) 10:10, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

What does "over curves" mean? It's not immediately clear.

Kortoso (talk) 00:28, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

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 The tiger's closest living relatives were previously though to be the lion...

"though" should be "thought"

The tiger's closest living relatives were previously thought to be the lion Cha Cha Wow (talk) 17:31, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

 Done--JAaron95 (Talk) 17:34, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

A few minor problems.

I note the following errors: 1. "A 2010 genetic analysis shows the tiger began evolving 3.2 million years ago..." is risible. The tiger, as well as all other life on this planet, "began evolving" billions of years ago. I'm not clear on the research that this "factoid" is based on, so I don't know what the fossil evidence dated to 3.2 Mya is accepted to be evidence of. Possibilities include a distinctly "tigerish" morphology, a distinctly panthera morphology, or something else. 2. "In 1758, Linnaeus first described the species in his work...". Another laughable statement! Shakespeare used the word "tiger" in Henry V, 1598 C.E., so the idea that it took another 160 years for someone to "describe" them (in Europe, I suppose) is preposterous, imho. I'm no scholar, so I can't be sure that Old Will meant panthera tigris, but I'd guess that since the species was ENDEMIC to eastern Europe, he did. My point here is that certainly there are Asian descriptions of tigers that document the species prior to 1758! So, it is astoundingly provincial to claim "Linnaeus FIRST described...". (and yes, I realize that "systematic, scientific" documentation is (also) noteworthy, but never-the-less.) 3. The section on man-eaters claims "Most man-eating tigers are old, are missing teeth, and are unable to capture their preferred prey." and fails to provide an authoratative source. Miquelle appears to be an authority, BUT this type of claim needs a solid EVIDENTIARY basis, rather than opinion or hearsay. Broken tooth? Old? Meaningless obfuscatory babble. The same section, later on has the statement:"...some healthy tigers have hunted humans." and that some attacks are territorial. You can't have it both ways. I submit that "most" means > 50% and that unless a PEER REVIEWED source is cited, it should be removed. Fact is, people are killed by tigers (healthy and otherwise) for a variety of reasons. The whole sections seems to have been written by an apologist and is NOT npov. Chances are, the major reason attacks happen is habitat loss, but I digress... Given the fact that tigers have been eating people (and vice versa) for millenia, we need to get our facts straight and stop the PETA apologetics. It is diappointing that the authors of this seem to think they are able to "divine" the intent of a tiger. Cats are KNOWN to kill without ANY purpose (tangible purpose, including protecting territory). I submit that claiming the attack on the 8 tourists was "territorial" is magical thinking (so typical of modern "soft science"). Its likely, but to claim it as fact is just wrong. And what does the tigress having 8 cubs have to do with it? I suppose that the attacks IN CAPTIVITY are "territorial" or predatory too? Not. (and don't hand me any of that "oh, but that's different" nonsense.) They kill unprevoked, and prevoked. They kill for food, out of instinct, and out of fear. I'd also be interested in learning where in the world you can find an adult apex predator which has never had "prior contact" with humans. How do you think you could go about proving that, for gosh sakes!?216.96.76.38 (talk) 13:40, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Animals

lions eat meat and other things like deer or small animals

mating males and females are fully muture at the age of six or eight and when they are ready they can start there season — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.252.224.164 (talk) 21:37, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

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192.208.157.139 (talk) 17:56, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Altamel (talk) 18:09, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

etymology

The specific epithet, tigris, as well as the common name, tiger, come from the Middle English tigre and the Old English tigras (a plural word), both used for the animal. These derive from the Old French tigre, itself a derivative of the Latin word tigris and the Greek word tigris. ...

What, the Linnaean species name is Latinized from the Middle English name, rather than taken from Latin or Greek directly?? — I'd take out any explicit mention of Middle/Old English or Old French and say something more like

The Greek and Latin word tigris, which is used as the specific name in zoological taxonomy and is also the source of the English word tiger, may be derived from ...

—Tamfang (talk) 22:11, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

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¿The Tiger is the largest cat?

"An average adult male tiger from Northern India or Siberia outweighs an average adult male lion by around 45.5 kg (100 lb". "Males tigers vary in total length from 250 to 390 cm (98 to 154 in)".https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lDXGoxgs7vEContribuidor del Conocimiento (talk) 09:36 pm, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

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Largest Species?

When I read this I think of it being the species with the most number of extant individuals, or the most diverse species. Nothing could be further from the truth! Surely it should be changed from "largest cat species" to "largest species of cat" This makes it much more clear that the cat itself is what is large, not the species! Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.52.205.124 (talk) 11:23, 8 April 2016 (UTC)