User talk:Coffeetip

Toontown Online

Hey there, fellow wiki editor,

In order to avoid an edit war, I would like to discuss the section you've added to Toontown Online. I do not think that fan sites such as "Toonbook" or others deserve an entire section on an article that is about the game itself. Secondly, you haven't included any independent sources which report on the information you've added. (The site itself and interviews are not considered independent sources). This also goes for the section "Toontown Rewritten" which has been added to the article one too many times in the past. Other than in a "Reception" section which may include that a "loyal fanbase" has created fan websites due to the closure of the game, with proper sources included, in my opinion fan sites and illegal private servers should not be included in this article. If you refer to any other proper game article, it is highly unlikely that you would find any distinct mentioning of fan created websites. Otherwise, we would have to list every major/minor private server and fan website that was created about any game. I'd love to hear any of your ideas of thoughts about this. I've specifically contacted you as many of the editors adding unsourced and irrelevant information do not have accounts and are unlikely to see my message. Also please refer to the talk page of Toontown Rewritten, you can find other ways to help out Toontown Online as it directs to a link with a peer review. Thanks NightHawkCanada (talk) 09:00, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

On Toontown Rewritten

Hey Coffeetip. As a Wikipedian who follows the Toontown Online article and avid TTR player, I don't recommend continuing to make Draft:Toontown Rewritten with the intention of making it a full article. TTRs doesn't meet the notability criteria because there aren't enough third party sources to support it. If you can find more than the one Bloomberg article and link them here we could discuss whether it should go forward but if little has changed since then the article would likely go to WP:AfD quickly. Thanks -NottNott|talk 18:04, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

I am working on finding more references to the game on other websites. It will take some time. I have found an article posted by Smosh, briefly referencing TTR, and have added it to the page.

I noticed your post on reddit. I wouldn't consider that article by Smosh to be a reliable source - and as it stands the one article by Bloomberg isn't enough to establish notability. Is there a specific reason you feel TTR needs its own page? -NottNott|talk 18:35, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

I feel as if Toontown Rewritten should have its own page, because it is run by completely different people, is set to have a different storyline, and eventually will include more original features and other stuff. I personally don't think it would make sense to go all out about Toontown Rewritten under the Disney's TTO page. People may want to find more out about Toontown Rewritten, and many may not trust the game until they see a Wikipedia page that tells them about the game and gives valid proof that the game is real. I wish to expand on this page and include more details as time goes on. Also, I've included two other articles which reference TTR, subtly, at least.

P.S. Apologies for any half-assed responses and such. I'm not good with messaging people via Talk pages.

Thanks for your reply. As much as I love TTR and have been playing it for a long time, WP:GNG states that a topic must have significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. I'd like a TTR article as much as the next fan, but the notability guideline is Wikipedia policy so regardless of an editor's personal rationale is the subject of the article must meet it. Without more sources the article is likely to end up at WP:AfD I'm afraid. Hopefully you can understand this and if you have any more questions feel free to let me know. -NottNott|talk 19:00, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

December 2016

A page you created has been nominated for deletion as an attack page, according to section G10 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

Do not create pages that attack, threaten, or disparage their subject. Attack pages and files are not tolerated by Wikipedia, and users who create or add such material may be blocked from editing. DanielRigal (talk) 20:25, 8 December 2016 (UTC)