Talk:Legality of cannabis by U.S. jurisdiction

Need Update!

6/8- Ohio legalized medical marijuana. Change the map! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.88.149.146 (talk) 20:19, 14 June 2016 (UTC) 1/27-Believe Nevada laws are wrong. I dont think it's decriminalized per Norml — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.69.88.25 (talk) 01:55, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

02/28/2015: Shouldn't we include states that have laws to legalize CBD for patients? It seems like it should be its own category or possibly be listed with the other medical states (though I think that might be confusing). Some examples of CBD legal states that don't show up on the map as medical are: Alabama, Florida, Iowa, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Utah, Wisconsin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.167.245.249 (talk) 07:04, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

11/6/2014: Why was the note about decriminalization in Philadelphia removed? It needs to be put back — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.124.91.21 (talk) 16:56, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

4/18/2014: Maryland needs to be colorized to indicate new legal status for medical cannabis and also decriminalization under 10g. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:301:77AE:19C0:221:E9FF:FEDD:6B65 (talk) 02:26, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

3/5/2014: Whomever updated the color scheme of the map, or someone who knows how to, should probably update the rest of the page's individual state info to be consistent with those colors. Also, Washington DC just decriminalized Cannabis as well.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:301:77AE:19C0:221:E9FF:FEDD:6B65 (talk) 05:12, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

The map needs to be updated (I don't know how to do it). New Hampshire has legalized medical marijuana, making it the last state in New England to legalize the drug for medicinal purposes.

Edit: Forgot to include sources. http://www.cvdvt.org/new-england-goes-green/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/23/new-england-marijuana-_n_3641841.html http://rt.com/usa/new-hampshire-medical-marijuana-542/

76.19.18.246 (talk) 23:48, 27 July 2013 (UTC) Norml: I haven't an idea what I am doing, but would like to add Norml to the reference list. It is important that the information be as correct as we all can get it. I don't mind if this ends up being deleted. Fievelmousekewitz1970 (talk) 19:11, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

the more updates the better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.221.103.239 (talk) 18:05, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Many (medical) cannabis legality by country/state or history of the legality pages have a lot of information that is out of date too much to mention. I'll try to find all those pages again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frostpunk (talk • contribs) 20:24, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

DC decriminalization

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/dc-council-eliminates-jail-time-for-marijuana-possession-stepping-to-national-forefront/2014/03/04/df6fd98c-a32b-11e3-a5fa-55f0c77bf39c_story.html?hpid=z5

the DC council just passed 10-1, a statute lowering penalties to $25for smoking at home and reducing possession in public of less then 1 Oz to $100. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patbahn (talk • contribs) 05:13, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

New colors ?

Was there a conversation about changing the colors on the map or did one guy just change them becase he found them and I quote "Obnoxious" becase now the colors on the map don't match the colors on the page. And there had never been a big issue with the colors they had been that was sense 2009. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.216.157.110 (talk) 05:04, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

New York State should not be light blue. True enough, in law, the blue is accurate. However, in practice, that is not the case. .03mg of stem is enough to receive the maximum sentencing of $4,000 fine, 60 hours of community service, and 9 months of drug therapy OR 1-2 years in prison. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.151.47.80 (talk) 01:04, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

First and foremost, the colors are nearly indistinguishable. This is a usability issue. A2800276 (talk) 11:17, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

I was also confused by the indistinguishable colors of the map, but then noticed the colors in the table don't match and further are not consistent if you sort by status. I fixed a couple but now I am not confident the fixes are correct and will leave for someone more familiar with this page. Charles N. Gorichanaz (talk) 19:08, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

I found the map to be unusable due to the colors. They are indistinguishable. --Cowlinator (talk) 10:42, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

I agree. I think a better solution would be: GREEN = legalized; BLUE = medical; ORANGE = decriminalized; YELLOW = CBD only; RED = illegal. And for states that have multiple, like for example medical and decrim, give it a striped color of blue and orange.Terrorist96 (talk) 01:28, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

Marijuana possession is illegal in Ohio

The article currently lists Ohio as having marijuana possession "decriminalized". However, according to current Ohio law ( http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2925.11 , current as of March 26, 2014), possession ranges from a minor misdemeanor to a second degree felony with maximum sentence, depending on the amount:

(3) If the drug involved in the violation is marihuana or a compound, mixture, preparation, or substance containing marihuana other than hashish, whoever violates division (A) of this section is guilty of possession of marihuana. The penalty for the offense shall be determined as follows:

(a) Except as otherwise provided in division (C)(3)(b), (c), (d), (e), (f), or (g) of this section, possession of marihuana is a minor misdemeanor.

(b) If the amount of the drug involved equals or exceeds one hundred grams but is less than two hundred grams, possession of marihuana is a misdemeanor of the fourth degree.

...

(g) If the amount of the drug involved equals or exceeds forty thousand grams, possession of marihuana is a felony of the second degree, and the court shall impose as a mandatory prison term the maximum prison term prescribed for a felony of the second degree.

Joeyadams (talk) 03:19, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Yes, but a "minor misdemeanor" entails no chance of imprisonment and a maximum fine of $150. It's roughly equivalent to getting a traffic citation (e.g., for driving with a broken tail-light). ~~ Lothar von Richthofen ([[User talk:Lothar von

Richthofen|talk]]) 04:16, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

D.C should be Dark purple on the map

What the title says.

I'd really like to update the map for Maryland and Minnesota's implementation of medical cannabis laws... but, I don't know how. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:301:77AE:19C0:221:E9FF:FEDD:6B65 (talk) 03:26, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Colors

There was absolutely no discussion surrounding the change of colors on the map and the user changed them since the user said they were "obnoxious", the new colours are so light however, its difficult to see and much harder to distinguish the states, please can we revert back to the clear color scheme that we had before since those colors were very clear as opposed to these which are incredibly hard to make out Guyb123321 (talk) 20:56, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Since there was no reply to the last post I've gone ahead and reverted the map Guyb123321 (talk) 21:00, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Map inaccuracies

Who screwed up the map? Now the colors and the key don't even match.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:301:77AE:19C0:221:E9FF:FEDD:6B65 (talk) 19:09, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Fixed, whoever keeps changing it around needs either discuss what they're doing or stop. They don't seem to realise changing it has a significant impact on articles like this one. If this keeps going on the file is going to end up in an edit war... --Jamez1502 (talk) 00:17, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Agreed. Maryland and Minnesota are still not the correct color... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:301:77AE:19C0:221:E9FF:FEDD:6B65 (talk) 04:52, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Indian Reservations added?

Should Indian Reservations be added as the United States Department of Justice recently allowed for the federally recognized domesic nations to regulate cannabis within their reservation? I thought I ask since there are a enormous amount of Indian Reservations. Seqqis (talk) 17:42, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Horizontal TOC template allows section editing by state

I returned the horizontal TOC template. Template:Horizontal TOC. It allows section editing by state, etc.. Unlike Template:Flatlist which does not allow section editing by state. --Timeshifter (talk) 17:42, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Oregon

Oregon's coloration should be updated to "legalized" green now that the law has changed in the state. I'd do it myself if I knew how. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.14.126.198 (talk) 02:43, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Alaska

Coloration for Alaska should be adjusted to "legalized" green as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.14.126.198 (talk) 02:45, 5 October 2015 (UTC) Should also be noted someplace, that the laws never changed from within the residence, that you can have 4 ounces. Source is Norml. http://norml.org/laws/item/alaska-penalties — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fievelmousekewitz1970 (talk • contribs) 01:14, 18 November 2015 (UTC) Fievelmousekewitz1970 (talk) 02:02, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

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Pennsylvania

It's a bit premature, but the section on PA will be out-of-date within a few days. A medical cannabis bill passed both houses of state legislature, and the governor has indicated that he will sign the bill shortly. [1]

ike9898 (talk) 19:26, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Changes to chart?

There are only like 3-4 cases out of 55 rows where there is any detail of note that distinguishes transportation from just basic possession. So we're tying up huge chunks of the chart for an entry that is usually "not clearly stated" or similar. Does anyone object to removing that column and just having "Possession - Sale - Cultivation" as the three columns that each state/territory is categorized by? Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 09:32, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

I vote to nuke it.Terrorist96 (talk) 23:13, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

Any suggestions on what the chart should cover? Right now it's kind of dense, and I'm not sure that all the detail it has on specific amounts, misdemeanors vs felonies, etc. is easily accessible for readers at a glance, and/or is assured to not be out of date. My overall thought is that the chart should make certain overall/general info immediately clear to the reader (kind of like how the map is supposed to) and the fine details would be in the articles for each of the states, which are linked from the chart. Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 00:58, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

I think we can also remove the color in the chart. It serves no purpose. Otherwise, the rest is fine I think.Terrorist96 (talk) 01:58, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

I'm changing the title of this post to ask for suggestions to changing the chart in general. Right now the far-right blocks are kind of wordy; instead I'd suggest that we just have a link to the state-specific article, and then a few really brief bullets for the key dates, like what year it was criminalized, decriminalized, medical marijuana, and legalized, as applicable. Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 19:42, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Take a look at the area around Indiana–Maine; those Notes section were empty so I tried bulleting in some key dates. Is that any clearer, or does that just start getting too empty? I do think we need to trim down or cut out the states with tons of data (like North Carolina) since a) it clutters the chart and b) a lot of it is detailed legal stuff easily subject to change c) a lot of it is just cribbed from NORML/MPP and their pages are honestly a better resource for that kind of detail. Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 22:21, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Possibilities

• Remove "Transport" column entirely? (GLM suggestion)
• Remove color scheme (Terrorist96 suggestion)
• Move legal misdemeanor/felony details from far-right column to state-specific articles. Use far-right column for bulleted list of major milestone years (crim, decrim, legal of MMJ or recreational) with only briefest of explanations to keep chart time. (GLM suggestion)

+1 to all three.Terrorist96 (talk) 19:55, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Map

The map is pretty complicated to look at, with six different shades of green. I think it would be better to simplify it to three colors: Legal recreational marijuana, legal medicinal, none. You should be able to tell those things at a glance, and you can't do that with the current map. --Surachit (talk) 23:59, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

Hello @Surachit:, we have a thread discussing the map and how to improve it, if you want to come join in at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Cannabis#Graphics_expert_on_standby_to_update_US_Cannabis_map_in_days_following_election.3F. Thanks for your input! Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 00:54, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

I also find it confusing. I'm not sure what those stars inside those few states mean, does it refer to the asterisks? Because if it is one of the three asterisks says "only non-psychoactive medical cannabis is legal" but there's already a specific colour that states the exact same thing. Also on other cannabis legality pages for instance the page "legality of cannabis by country" doesn't yet have the state of Maine coloured in dark green to indicate it's also legal there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frostpunk (talk • contribs) 20:18, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

@Frostpunk:, as of mid-day Thursday, Maine was still counting votes. The news I'm seeing says that "Yes" won, but the opposition might demand a recount, so it's not as certain as the other ones that are updated on the map. Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 20:50, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Texas

I changed the section where it was indicated that possession was decriminalized in Houston and Dallas. This is completely untrue. Even small amounts of flower are being actively prosecuted as class B misdemeanors in those jurisdictions.

"Cite and Release" =/= decriminalization. A person faces EXACTLY the same penalties as before, he or she simply is not required to "book in" to jail.